Muu or Oonoki are the strongest Kages ever.

[OWanime]

top 5 kage but not the strongest xd

 

[Maunten]

Dust release can be easily diverted with SBT, and ftg places minato almost anywhere.

 

[sulanis]

Oonoki has YEARS of experience over the other kages, which makes him far more dangerous then he seems. Although Madara is still far to powerful for him. oonoki has some interesting abilties to say the least that actually gave Madara something to worry about.

The thing I don't get is, they are in a dessert by the looks of it. Gaara should be even more powerful then the rest of them!

ugh... Madara Uchiha, you died for a reason stay dead haha

 

[feedingspree]

Muu and Oonoki are the strongest Kages of all time, besting Hashirama, Hiruzen and the 3rd Raikage.

Dust release and a convenient flying ability matched with superb doton puts them above the rest

Mokuton is childs play to Dust Release. Same goes for the 3rds lightning shield or w.e

Agree, or disagree?​

Hello,, my first post goes here(excepts my konichiwa thread)
I have read that you say muu and onoki are the strongest kages of all time besting even hashirama, i bet i would disagree on that ,heres why,

1.On mangga it says that madara had just toying those two, muu and onoki,and they cant even stop madara whos,using only a lil of his power to fight them so it means madara > oonoki muu,
2.madara even claims hashirama is the only one who could stop him even he was on that edo form he still claim it, . It proves that hashi is a really powerful one means hashirama>madara
3.if you were saying that muu is stronger than hashirama so you are also saying muu is greater than madara, because as you said muu is stronger than hashi who can stop that madara, so why did muu was defeated on their battle,
4.i think there is a chapter on manga entitled kabuto's trump card? Who is that trump card ? I bet its not muu? Its madara .. If muu is really stronger than hashi i bet kabuto will use muu as his trump card but its not,
5.a lot of shinobi admire hashi and also wants his power an ex. Of this is by acquiring his dna, tobi,danzo,orochimaru ,even madara i think,etc
Why not use muus dna ?

 

[Saikou Ninja]

Thats in a scenario, name an attack another Kage has that rivals Dust Release?

Mizukage's boil release is nothing to sneeze at...

 

[besteawuz]

you dont need to prove your stupidity more than once.

 

[-Logic-]

Considering that you are the person who said that Kisame > EMS Madara I'm going to completely disregard this thread. Also, this thread has been disproved by people already with Manga facts and you're ignoring it like a little child. Grow up, and accept that Oonoki isn't as special as you think he is. I agree that Oonoki and Mu are powerful but they're nothing compared to Madara. Also, when Madara got summoned by Kabuto Mu said "To think they'd use you in this war. They know what they're doing." This proves that Madara > Oonoki/Mu because even Mu was afraid of him, and shat his pants when Madara was summoned.

-Logic'd-​

 

[Yveltal]

How is Muu the strongest Kage if he got killed by the 2nd Mizukage

Proof: stated by the 2nd Mizukage on episode 267

 

[ProjectOuterspace]

Oonoki was deff in the top 3 strongest kages ever. Muu would be like top 5.

 

[EYES OF ITACHI]

:scorps:i strongly disagree

 

[hiitz]

This Thread needs a Situation

 

[6pathofpain]

he didnt rape muu with ease. he didnt even fight him. and neither muu nor onoki were at their primes. hashirama lived probably quite long after VOTE, and probably fought muu in 1st shinobi world war

probs cos he has a magic eye that enables him to do that.

show me a panel of muu using an ability that would suggest he was on the level at when he died. show me a panle of muu being hurt by madara

that doesnt mean they were equal by a long shot. we dont know what happened in that fight. maybe mizukage got trashed and decided to blow himself up

onokis never shown to have taken a long time to do anything regarding dust release

no none of them would win besides maybe gaara cos he can fly and restrain onokis arms

his rival for many years who probably knew everything about him
how do you know muu was at the power he was as when he fought the mizukage? and onoki was literally a small child

hashi cant see him, cant hit him and is too slow

how do you know muu was at the power that he was later in life? at the time he wasnt even tsuchikage.

and now he does

probably because hes a zombie fused with hashirama

madara retreated from the world long before muu ascended to hokage and gained dust release

or he just used kyuubi who he had just taken control of

no it isnt fair at all

how can he beat 4th mizukage?

how do you know muu was serious too? maybe he didnt want to hurt his ally from konoha

onoki was a little kid. if you were a little nerd and you had a bully beat you to near death, youd be afraid of him even later in life. also for the last time, MUU WASNT FULL POWER. many years passed between that fight and muus death

no he didnt. how do you know madara was full power?
is not their ONLY attack

kishi is presenting character opinions. kakashi and 4th raikage have theirs. iruka has his

what in part 2 supports that?

So your just gonna assume he couldnt use that jutsu when that happened? Honestly i read what you said to people an your making a whole lot of assumuptions to make Muu seem stronger than he is. Honestly what has he even dont in the war? If he was soooooooo powerful he would have made a waaaay bigger impact. Most of the time i forgot he was even there. AND EVERYONE NEEDS TO STOP ACTING LIKE THE DUST RELEASE IS SO GREAT IS IT WAS THEN THERE WOULD BE WAAAAAY MORE DEATHS BY IT. Honestly the only person it almost killed was suaske while he was already ****ed up. An if the mizikage had a full battle with him an didnt get hit by it then i doubt its that easy to get caugh in. The mizukage has shown no super speed at all or really any great mobilty an he didnt get hit. So i doubt Minato, 3rd or 4th raikage, the 2nd hokage, Or gaara or his dad will get hit with it cause i believe ive already seen gaara's sand block it. An muu's lack of dection is useless against the 1st, why? Bring of darkness(Muu's blind) the He creates the forest with the knockout pollen.

 

[Nikes]

Considering that you are the person who said that Kisame > EMS Madara I'm going to completely disregard this thread. Also, this thread has been disproved by people already with Manga facts and you're ignoring it like a little child. Grow up, and accept that Oonoki isn't as special as you think he is. I agree that Oonoki and Mu are powerful but they're nothing compared to Madara. Also, when Madara got summoned by Kabuto Mu said "To think they'd use you in this war. They know what they're doing." This proves that Madara > Oonoki/Mu because even Mu was afraid of him, and shat his pants when Madara was summoned.

-Logic'd-​

Logic'd?

Not at all you still haven't named a Kage with a stronger technique.

I set this thread up to where I wouldn't be wrong.

Dust Release is the strongest tech that any kage have shown.

Minato is better for example, more convenient abilities with FTG and summoning, but he isn't stronger. Same for Hashirama. More convenient abilities, but not stronger.

Strength isn't the only thing needed in battle.

Derp. :ice:

 

[TrollingSage]

Guys I call call troll on this one. So calm the f*** down

 

[Scooby Doo]

Muu and Oonoki are the strongest Kages of all time, besting Hashirama, Hiruzen and the 3rd Raikage.

Dust release and a convenient flying ability matched with superb doton puts them above the rest

Mokuton is childs play to Dust Release. Same goes for the 3rds lightning shield or w.e

Agree, or disagree?​

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So I disagree.

 

[VisionOfDisorder]

Dissagree with youthful passion.

 

[Winter Savior]

Madara bitch slapped both of these guys at once, nuff said

 

[Powermill]

I'd think that Hashirama's birth of the woods is more powerful than dust release.

 

[Nikes]

Madara bitch slapped both of these guys at once, nuff said

:ice:

I'd think that Hashirama's birth of the woods is more powerful than dust release.

A very weakened Oonoki took down the flower world. Effortlessly.

Rasengan took out a bunch of trees.

 

[ProjectOuterspace]

I don't see why people keep talking about Madara. He is not a kage. He was beat by the one Kage who was his complete opposite. That does not mean that the same kage could beat Oonoki. Muu probably but Oonoki has surpassed Muu and is easily top 3 Kage list.