Muu, Garra and Deidara vs the 1st Hokage!

[HNIC]

Even if team 1 miraculously pushed Hashirama to use ShinSuusenju, Deidara would have to kill himself and use C0 to even effect it.

Then you'd still have a somewhat operational Buddha with a player down on team 1's side, and Gaara and Muu.. no way to win.

But Hashirama wouldn't be pushed that far, with these conditions.

c4 would be better. Hashimara can't see it neither can he counter it once it exploits

 

[HNIC]

No, why the hell would he aim for a bomb Deidara throws and not Deidara himself? Do you not realize how stupid that sounds? You do know those birds are bombs that Deidara throws right?

Are you really trying to dumb down the situation?!?! lol

Deidara is a distance fighter, to get to Deidara you must reach him. He has the ABILITY TO SEND BIRDS IN THE PROCESS AS I HAVE PROVIDED THE LINK DEMONSTRATING THIS! This is fact, your assumption of how things will go in irrelevant.

Now, get your proof/scans or explain a counter. Also, keep in mind he has two other opponents. So you only focusing on Deidara isnt helping your argument

 

[KidGamer65]

Are you really trying to dumb down the situation?!?! lol

Deidara is a distance fighter, to get to Deidara you must reach him. He has the ABILITY TO SEND BIRDS IN THE PROCESS AS I HAVE PROVIDED THE LINK DEMONSTRATING THIS! This is fact, your assumption of how things will go in irrelevant.

Now, get your proof/scans or explain a counter. Also, keep in mind he has two other opponents. So you only focusing on Deidara isnt helping your argument

Already told you why those birds are completely useless, as Hashirama can just tank them, so why the hell are you even mentioning them here. You can't even form a coherent post....smh.

I already made my argument that you haven't even countered, you just replied saying "I don't think that large scale Mokuton will work" "Deidara will spam birds"

In fact you are the one who decided to only reply referring to Deidara when I referred to all 3 in the first place.

If you lack the capability to make a simple, coherent post, then I'm not even going to waste my time.

 

[HNIC]

Already told you why those birds are completely useless, as Hashirama can just tank them, so why the hell are you even mentioning them here. You can't even form a cohesive post....smh.

I already made my argument that you haven't even countered, you just replied saying "I don't think that large scale Mokuton will work" "Deidara will spam birds"

In fact you are the one who decided to only reply referring to Deidara when I referred to all 3 in the first place.

tanking how? the moment hashimara send any form of his kkg at Deidara he'll send birds down as he didnt against Garra to reach Hashimara himself. You have not explained how he prevents this. All you have said he "he'll tank it" lol That's not an argument.

No no no. I'm simply replying to your post.

 

[KidGamer65]

tanking how? the moment hashimara send any form of his kkg at Deidara he'll send birds down as he didnt against Garra to reach Hashimara himself. You have not explained how he prevents this. All you have said he "he'll tank it" lol That's not an argument.

No no no. I'm simply replying to your post.

......you can't be serious with this nonsense. If that wasn't an argument, then the many times people have tanked things in the manga would be invalid. You are expecting a complicated answer to a simple ass problem.

Mokujin tanks Deidara's birds, how hard is that to understand? Meaning the birds don't affect him, don't damage him.

You saying Deidara will spam C1 birds doesn't even tell me how he stops Hashirama's attack, cause his birds are too weak to even phase Mokujin let alone stop its attack entirely.

Don't reply with more BS.

 

[HNIC]

My point does add up you have yet to counter it, Sage mode gives the user the ability to sense you only gave a incomplete Sage as an example.Pathetic.


Hashirama wins your whole arguments got trampled on.Lol

fail. I provided Naruto as an example and you went running.

 

[HNIC]

......you can't be serious with this nonsense. If that wasn't an argument, then the many times people have tanked things in the manga would be invalid. You are expecting a complicated answer to a simple ass problem.

Mokujin tanks Deidara's birds, how hard is that to understand? Meaning the birds don't affect him, don't damage him.

You saying Deidara will spam C1 birds doesn't even tell me how he stops Hashirama's attack, cause his birds are too weak to even phase Mokujin let alone stop its attack entirely.

Don't reply with more BS.

Ok, you dont seem to understand. Wood Release would tank an offensive attack GOING towards it head on. These birds ARENT DOING THAT! They are contolled directly to Hashimara. I set the scan to demonstarate this perfectly for you, yet you're still lost lol.

Do I need to do this again?

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A bird going head om would of course be tanked,BUT as we see the birds can dodge large defenses, like wood release and go straight to the target. HOW IS HE STOPPING THIS.

also, how is he stopping sand? sand can regain it's form.

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blocking this would mean NOTHING

 

[KidGamer65]

Can't believe I'm going to have to explain such a basic ass concept.

Ok, you dont seem to understand. Wood Release would tank an offensive attack GOING towards it head on. These birds ARENT DOING THAT! They are contolled directly to Hashimara. I set the scan to demonstarate this perfectly for you, yet you're still lost lol.

Do I need to do this again?

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A bird going head om would of course be tanked,BUT as we see the birds can dodge large defenses, like wood release and go straight to the target. HOW IS HE STOPPING THIS.

also, how is he stopping sand? sand can regain it's form.

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blocking this would mean NOTHING

Hashirama is on top of Mokujin.

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If a bomb comes toward him, Mokujin simply covers Hashirama using a hand, attack is tanked. How hard is this to understand? Its not going to hit him if Hashirama is completely covered. Again, how hard is this to understand...smh.

Even if it can regain its form, it doesn't mean that he can't block it and it doesn't mean that Gaara can hurt him with it.

 

[HNIC]

Can't believe I'm going to have to explain such a basic ass concept.



Hashirama is on top of Mokujin.

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If a bomb comes toward him, Mokujin simply covers Hashirama using a hand, attack is tanked. How hard is this to understand? Its not going to hit him if Hashirama is completely covered. Again, how hard is this to understand...smh.

Even if it can regain its form, it doesn't mean that he can't block it and it doesn't mean that Gaara can hurt him with it.

That HUGE hand? with no fast feat? So you're telling me that the birds had no issue maneuvering past the giant sand hand, forcing Garra to cover his ENTIRE BODY (sand dome). But this one hand here will do so effortlessly?!?! ARE YOU SERIOUS? lol

Blocking the sand means nothing, as Garra can control it once blocked to move along/through any wood release form. He cant destroy it, which is when Muu and Deidara can into play. Hashimara isnt getting rid of the sand, that's a constant distraction.

 

[KidGamer65]

That HUGE hand? with no fast feat? So you're telling me that the birds had no issue maneuvering past the giant sand hand, forcing Garra to cover his ENTIRE BODY (sand dome). But this one hand here will do so effortlessly?!?! ARE YOU SERIOUS? lol

You can't be serious with this shit. Mokujin completely dwarfs Gaara's sand hand and those pathetic bombs Deidara is throwing, also no fast feat? Log off pal, cause you sound dumb.

-Bijuu Dama moves faster than most things in this manga and Mokujin was fast enough to intercept it before it hit Hashirama, that is a fast feat. All he needs to do is shift his hand in front of Hashirama (As Hashirama is already on the statue) and block it. Not that hard.

I've already established I can't take you seriously.

Blocking the sand means nothing, as Garra can control it once blocked to move along/through any wood release form. He cant destroy it, which is when Muu and Deidara can into play. Hashimara isnt getting rid of the sand, that's a constant distraction.

What can't hurt him isn't a distraction. Its something that can be ignored, not to mention Hashirama would simply take Gaara out, and his sand goes with him. Its as simple as that.

Hashirama has clones to deal with them, not to mention Deidara can't do shit to him anyways, Mu can if he can fire Jinton, but he'll never prep it before Hashirama kills him or force him to evade, so that's moot.

 

[HNIC]

You can't be serious with this shit. Mokujin completely dwarfs Gaara's sand hand and those pathetic bombs Deidara is throwing, also no fast feat? Log off pal, cause you sound dumb.

-Bijuu Dama moves faster than most things in this manga and Mokujin was fast enough to intercept it before it hit Hashirama, that is a fast feat. All he needs to do is shift his hand in front of Hashirama (As Hashirama is already on the statue) and block it. Not that hard.

I've already established I can't take you seriously.



What can't hurt him isn't a distraction. Its something that can be ignored, not to mention Hashirama would simply take Gaara out, and his sand goes with him. Its as simple as that.

Hashirama has clones to deal with them, not to mention Deidara can't do shit to him anyways, Mu can if he can fire Jinton, but he'll never prep it before Hashirama kills him or force him to evade, so that's moot.

smh! Users today I tell ya.

it dwarfs??? Look at the hand next to Hashimara. Now look at the hand here:

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this is relatively the same size. Stop it. I'm actually having a hard time taking you serious, magically thinking this hand has any special feats the Garra's sand hand lacked. The birds would still simply fly around it. As you stated earlier, the hand isnt focused on the birds, it's focusing on Deidara. So in reaching out to Deidara, how is the hand deflecting the birds? Come up with another story.

But what can drag you and possibly crush a limb will certainly keep your attention. Madara had to find this out, but he was an Edo. Hashimara can't afford to not pay attention to any sand, that would equal his lose.

Muu one-shots those clones easily, try again.

So Hashimara is blocking birds, avoiding sand and making clones at the same time. LOL MUU isnt giving time to to use dust release hahah

 

[KidGamer65]

smh! Users today I tell ya.

it dwarfs??? Look at the hand next to Hashimara. Now look at the hand here:

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this is relatively the same size. Stop it. I'm actually having a hard time taking you serious, magically thinking this hand has any special feats the Garra's sand hand lacked. The birds would still simply fly around it. As you stated earlier, the hand isnt focused on the birds, it's focusing on Deidara. So in reaching out to Deidara, how is the hand deflecting the birds? Come up with another story.

But what drag you and posbbily crush a limb will certainly keep your attention. Madara had to find this out, but he was an Edo. Hashimara can't afford to not pay attention to any sand, that would equal his lose.

Muu one-shots those clones easily, try again.

I said Mokujin dwarfs the sand hand, not the sand dome, which is what you posted. You can't read anymore? Then again, seeing your previous posts I'm honestly not surprised.

Mokujin's hand won't be reaching out to hit the birds away like Gaara's sand hand was tard. They'll intercept them when they try to hit Hashirama by acting as a shield.

Are you stupid? Mokujin has two hands. 1 to shield Hashirama from explosives and one to shit on Deidara if he's close enough. This is why I can't take your dumb posts seriously.

@underlined: While's he's on Mokujin? Yeah, ok then pal.

Mu isn't going to take shit out with Jinton as clones won't let him prep it..

 

[HNIC]

I said Mokujin dwarfs the sand hand, not the sand dome, which is what you posted. You can't read anymore? Then again, seeing your previous posts I'm honestly not surprised.

Mokujin's hand won't be reaching out to hit the birds away like Gaara's sand hand was tard. They'll intercept them when they try to hit Hashirama by acting as a shield.

Are you stupid? Mokujin has two hands. 1 to shield Hashirama from explosives and one to shit on Deidara if he's close enough. This is why I can't take your dumb posts seriously.

@underlined: While's he's on Mokujin? Yeah, ok then pal.

Mu isn't going to take shit out with Jinton as clones won't let him prep it..

You might want to check your eyes,THAT IS THE SAND HAND. You sand that hand dwarfs the sand hand, which is completely wrong. The scan I provided proved this. The dome is in the background, having nothing to do with this situation.

You're acting really slow, like mentally! You YOU! SAID that Hashimara would be focusing on Deidara, not the birds. This meaning he would be reaching out for Deidara tard. In reaction to this, Deidara would send out birds. Damn did you read the manga?? Garra sent out hands for Deidara, he wasnt reacting to the birds. Therefore, this is the SAME EXACT CASE. smh do you need sleep?? lol

So both hands are focused on Deidara, yet nothing is focused on Garra, who can attack from all angles? hahaha you fail so badly

Muu isnt given prep?? What are these clones doing? that's if they are even used. They have already been stated as being weaker. So, Hashimara would have to fend off two users and make clones. Muu has the time, you just dont have any good counters lol

 

[KidGamer65]

I've already noted not to take you seriously from here on out. Shitty posts will be shitty.

You're acting really slow, like mentally! You YOU! SAID that Hashimara would be focusing on Deidara, not the birds. This meaning he would be reaching out for Deidara tard. In reaction to this, Deidara would send out birds. Damn did you read the manga?? Garra sent out hands for Deidara, he wasnt reacting to the birds. Therefore, this is the SAME EXACT CASE. smh do you need sleep?? lol

No, I said he'd tank the birds when the come and then go after Deidara, learn how to read moron.

It isn't the same case, cause Gaara sent the hands to intecept the birds, I said Hashirama would use Mokujin's hand as a shield to block the birds once they were about to hit him. A completely different case kid. Completely different.

So both hands are focused on Deidara, yet nothing is focused on Garra, who can attack from all angles? hahaha you fail so badly

Never even said this.....I do remember saying clones are enough to handle Gaara and Mu, I do remember saying that Mokujin would block the explosives and then attack, but of course, I can't expect illiterates to decipher such a simple post correctly.

Muu isnt given prep?? What are these clones doing? that's if they are even used. They have already been stated as being weaker. So, Hashimara would have to fend off two users and make clones. Muu has the time, you just dont have any good counters lol

-They were weaker cause he was focusing less power into them, nice try though. [

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-Making clones isn't as hard or long as you are making it seem.

-Mu doesn't have the time, unless he wants to die while prepping Jinton. Clones can do whatever the original can. Mokuryu and other Mokuton techniques will easily suffice in this situation. Jukai Kotan

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but used in the fashion it was used in Part 1 is more than enough to interrupt Jinton and kill Mu despite his flight. All he needs to do is simply make Mokuton grow upwards and GG Mu, he isn't prepping Jinton, not a chance.

A clone can replicate the same exact thing for Gaara and Deidara, he doesn't stand a chance either.

Says the guy with no good post. Instead all you have is "Deidara spams weak bombs" "Gaara spams Sand" "Mu spams Jinton"

 

[HNIC]

I've already noted not to take you seriously from here on out. Shitty posts will be shitty.



No, I said he'd tank the birds when the come and then go after Deidara, learn how to read moron.

It isn't the same case, cause Gaara sent the hands to intecept the birds, I said Hashirama would use Mokujin's hand as a shield to block the birds once they were about to hit him. A completely different case kid. Completely different.



Never even said this.....I do remember saying clones are enough to handle Gaara and Mu, I do remember saying that Mokujin would block the explosives and then attack, but of course, I can't expect illiterates to decipher such a simple post correctly.



-They were weaker cause he was focusing less power into them, nice try though. [

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-Making clones isn't as hard or long as you are making it seem.

-Mu doesn't have the time, unless he wants to die while prepping Jinton. Clones can do whatever the original can. Mokuryu and other Mokuton techniques will easily suffice in this situation. Jukai Kotan

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but used in the fashion it was used in Part 1 is more than enough to interrupt Jinton and kill Mu despite his flight. All he needs to do is simply make Mokuton grow upwards and GG Mu, he isn't prepping Jinton, not a chance.

A clone can replicate the same exact thing for Gaara and Deidara, he doesn't stand a chance either.

Says the guy with no good post. Instead all you have is "Deidara spams weak bombs" "Gaara spams Sand" "Mu spams Jinton"

haha says the guy who doesn't know the difference between sand hand and sand dome!

let me quote what you boy, you're acting new now haha

"1. Completely irrelevant as the target is Deidara, not the small birds he fires.

2. Mokujin would effortlessly tank C1 explosions, so I don't know why you are even mentioning them here.

I don't know what's funnier, you believe Team 1 wins, or you believing C1 is a factor here."

YOU SAID THEY WOULDT EVEN PAY ATTENTION TO THE BIRDS, MEANING ALL THE FOCUS WILL BE ON DEIDARA! Make up your mind, regardless it wont help you here! Garra sent his hands out and Deidara in response sent birds to bypass the defense and reach Garra. This is a logical move. Afterwards you said one hand will go after Deidara, while the other blocks that birds. STOP SMOKING, it's messing with your memory.

NO! You said clones for Muu, and said Garra can't harm him so not worth the attention!! Get it right! Your argument has been, that one hand would deal with Deidara, while the other blocks his attacks. You stated this AFTER i demonstrated how this one hand isnt enough to focus on Deidaea and his birds.

Muu owns those clones and those simple scan you posted

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this took little to no effort to perform

Also, Garra using sand can manuvoer through any wood release. If Garra grabs hold

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It's over. Let's not forget his ability to control the environment underneath Hashiara

 

[Xlad]

Woody wins.

 

[HNIC]

Woody wins.

no argument dont post

 

[KidGamer65]

Once again you've proved how stupid and incapable of reading you are, this will be my last post as I'm not inclined to waste time discussing anything with someone this retarded.

haha says the guy who doesn't know the difference between sand hand and sand dome!

let me quote what you boy, you're acting new now haha

"1. Completely irrelevant as the target is Deidara, not the small birds he fires.

2. Mokujin would effortlessly tank C1 explosions, so I don't know why you are even mentioning them here.

I don't know what's funnier, you believe Team 1 wins, or you believing C1 is a factor here."

YOU SAID THEY WOULDT EVEN PAY ATTENTION TO THE BIRDS, MEANING ALL THE FOCUS WILL BE ON DEIDARA! Make up your mind, regardless it wont help you here! Garra sent his hands out and Deidara in response sent birds to bypass the defense and reach Garra. This is a logical move. Afterwards you said one hand will go after Deidara, while the other blocks that birds. STOP SMOKING, it's messing with your memory.

Where did I say he wouldn't pay attention to the birds? Nowhere kid. Nowhere. I said that Mokujin would tank them, not that'd Hashirama would completely ignore them. I simply said Deidara is the main target and he won't reach out to intercept the birds like Gaara did. You quote me and you still don't even know what the hell you are talking about.

-Birds fly toward Hashirama.

-Mokujin raises its hand in front of Hashirama.

-Birds crash into its hand and are tanked.

Not that hard to understand nor is it the same as:

-Birds flying toward Gaara,

-Gaara shooting out hands to intercept the birds while they come toward him.

NO! You said clones for Muu, and said Garra can't harm him so not worth the attention!! Get it right! Your argument has been, that hand would deal with Deidara, while the other blocks his attacks. You stated this AFTER i demonstrated how this one hand isnt enough to focus on Deidaea and his birds.

Its called adding on to your argument, which is exactly what I did. Nothing to reply to here.

Muu owns those clones and those simple scan you posted

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this took little to no effort to perform

We've already seen that Jinton requires prep pal, that's a manga fact. I already countered Jinton many times so bringing it up again saying it kills the clones isn't helping you here at all.

Also, Garra using sand can manuvoer through any would release. If Garra grabs hold

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It's over. Let's not forget his ability to control the environment underneath Hashiara

Gaara isn't going to grab hold of Hashirama using the sand on the ground while he is on top of Mokujin, that doesn't make sense as Hashirama isn't on the ground, and his sand is too weak to crush Mokujin so this point is completely moot.

 

[HNIC]

Once again you've proved how stupid and incapable of reading you are, this will be my last post as I'm not inclined to waste time discussing anything with someone this retarded.



Where did I say he wouldn't pay attention to the birds? Nowhere kid. Nowhere. I said that Mokujin would tank them, not that'd Hashirama would completely ignore them. I simply said Deidara is the main target and he won't reach out to intercept the birds like Gaara did. You quote me and you still don't even know what the hell you are talking about.

-Birds fly toward Hashirama.

-Mokujin raises its hand in front of Hashirama.

-Birds crash into its hand and are tanked.

Not that hard to understand nor is it the same as:

-Birds flying toward Gaara,

-Gaara shooting out hands to intercept the birds while they come toward him.


Its called adding on to your argument, which is exactly what I did. Nothing to reply to here.


We've already seen that Jinton requires prep pal, that's a manga fact. I already countered Jinton many times so bringing it up again saying it kills the clones isn't helping you here at all.




Gaara isn't going to grab hold of Hashirama using the sand on the ground while he is on top of Mokujin, that doesn't make sense as Hashirama isn't on the ground, and his sand is too weak to crush Mokujin so this point is completely moot.

hahaha this guy is too funny!!!

Lies! Never did you write Deidara was the "main target" you stated him as being the only target. You said the birds were irrelevant. Damn dont you know your own post?!?! I posted this for you boy

You keep creating this scenario where Deidara makes the initial attack now lol, but all along the birds were irrelevant haha. Nonetheless, Deidara uses birds, they fly around this huge hand as it reaches for Deidara, the other hand blocks. That's your story? I'll play along, it's what I'd expect.

The scan I provided showed little to NO prep, i don't care about other instances, as this is the exact occasion I'm referring to use in my argument. So clones try to pop out, hand close and BOOM.

THE SAND won't be on the ground, I said it would move along Mokujin!!! Is he stopping this?!?!? Provide how! It isnt meant to crush it, I'll show what it's meant for in time, trust me hahaha

Now you're running away! that was too easy if so and LOL @ you logging off.

 

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Jinton doesnt require too much prep time, the reason why naruto was able to hit muu was because he was already up in the air, close to muu

the jinton was almost compete and had naruto been a fraction of second late muu would've fired it

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it would be near impossible to replicate this from the ground when muu is high up in the air

secondly gaara and deidara can create a lot of openings and cover for muu