Muu, Garra and Deidara vs the 1st Hokage!

[HNIC]

funny thing is im hardly even on that much anymore but oh well I guess? You being here as long as me doesnt change the fact that your a scrub, kidgamer shitted on your thread like it or not.

Your opinion means nothing in the amount of support ive received for smashing him. But how about you stop wanking another usee and post something worth while lol

I mean shit, you were in here the moment i created the thread and didnt post. Now eveeything in your mouth is Kidgamer. Does it taste that good bro? Ha

 

[Prince Charles]

Your opinion means nothing in the amount of support ive received for smashing him. But how about you stop wanking another usee and post something worth while lol

I mean shit, you were in here the moment i created the thread and didnt post. Now eveeything in your mouth is Kidgamer. Does it taste that good bro? Ha

Meh. no point in arguing with you. your entitled to your opinion

 

[HNIC]

Meh. no point in arguing with you. your entitled to your opinion

I know, but im glad you understand that. Btw that wasnt a matter of opinion, tthose are facts stated in that post.

Nothing more to say to you.

 

[Tazzilla88]

I don't actually want to enter this debate, but how does Hashi counter c0 and c4?

 

[KidGamer65]

I don't actually want to enter this debate, but how does Hashi counter c0 and c4?

C4 has a range, as shown

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. Being a sensor Hashirama will know where the range of C4 is and where its coming from. If he is on the Buddha, it won't reach him. He can hide in a Mokuton Dome until it passes, or he can fuse with the earth and slip away from the range.

C0 is weaker than a Bijuu Dama from Full Kurama, given that the Bijuu Dama from Full Kurama is much more powerful than a Bijuu Dama from the 2-7 tails, and those vaporize Mountains. The

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was pathetic in comparison. If the Buddha is activated, it wouldn't even reach Hashirama given C0's height. [

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], and the Buddha already survived much much much worse. It won't even be phased.

 

[HNIC]

C4 has a range, as shown

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. Being a sensor Hashirama will know where the range of C4 is and where its coming from. If he is on the Buddha, it won't reach him. He can hide in a Mokuton Dome until it passes, or he can fuse with the earth and slip away from the range.

C0 is weaker than a Bijuu Dama from Full Kurama, given that the Bijuu Dama from Full Kurama is much more powerful than a Bijuu Dama from the 2-7 tails, and those vaporize Mountains. The

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was pathetic in comparison. If the Buddha is activated, it wouldn't even reach Hashirama given C0's height. [

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], and the Buddha already survived much much much worse. It won't even be phased.

1)Still need proof of him sensing

2) that's if he had prior info

3) Garra counters Buddha as it relies on its two legs to withstand its size. In this environment, Garra alter the area it as he did against Kimimmaro.

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Buddha needs to be stable.

 

[KidGamer65]

1)Still need proof of him sensing

2) that's if he had prior info

3) Garra counters Buddha as it relies on its two legs to withstand its size. In this environment, Garra alter the area it as he did against Kimimmaro.

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Buddha needs to be stable.

1. Sage Mode lets you sense. It was

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he was a sensor. He

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of Naruto's chakra, and he sensed that the Yin Kurama's chakra was in there as well.

2. No, he doesn't need prior info to know to evade nano bombs.

3. Wow....not sure if serious. Sure, he can try and alter the ground its standing on. Too bad you are going to need some evidence he can do it on a scale needed for this situation as Shinsuusenju is as wide and long as Mountains. Not to mention that wouldn't do anything to the Buddha, it wouldn't cause it to fall like you believe, it'd simply sink a little bit in the sand Gaara made, you are going to need some feats that show he can sink a kilometer tall statue.

Creating sand on that scale if it were even possible for Gaara (Which it isn't) would take far far too much time anyway. Buddha would pound him and his teammates with ease during this long ass time frame. lmao, only a wanker or a fanboy would believe Gaara is going to take down Shinsuusenju. Go wank elsewhere.

 

[HNIC]

1. Sage Mode lets you sense. It was

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he was a sensor. He

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of Naruto's chakra, and he sensed that the Yin Kurama's chakra was in there as well.

2. No, he doesn't need prior info to know to evade nano bombs.

3. Wow....not sure if serious. Sure, he can try and alter the ground its standing on. Too bad you are going to need some evidence he can do it on a scale needed for this situation as Shinsuusenju is as wide and long as Mountains. Not to mention that wouldn't do anything to the Buddha, it wouldn't cause it to fall like you believe, it'd simply sink a little bit in the sand Gaara made, you are going to need some feats that show he can sink a kilometer tall statue.

Creating sand on that scale if it were even possible for Gaara (Which it isn't) would take far far too much time anyway. Buddha would pound him and his teammates with ease during this long ass time frame. lmao, only a wanker or a fanboy would believe Gaara is going to take down Shinsuusenju. Go wank elsewhere.

Hmmmm that sensing is still debatable. As we started this, Naruto has shown moments in which he was unable to sense a character until having direct contact with it. The second scan well isnt a sensing feat, Naruto's chakra has been noted by a number of users, even miles away Sasuke (and others) were able to sense Naruto chakra. In the presence of Naruto it isnt hard to determine he chakra being shared, this is alway shown visually.
sensing chakra and sensing this is different.

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2) I agree

3) In a desert setting Garra controls the entire environment, what would stop he from creating this for one leg of the Buddha? the sand is already in the surrounding environment, he doesn't need to create anything. We've already seen him pull sand covering half of an entire village. Is one Buddha leg greater in size.

Also, Hashimara doesn't have automatic defense. In using Buddha, he hands are stationed, Jiriya entering into SM. Therefore, him performing a jutsu to shield C4 is unlikely.

Muu's dust release can surely take care of the others, or some of the hands coming forwards.

 

[KidGamer65]

Hmmmm that sensing is still debatable. As we started this, Naruto has shown moments in which he was unable to sense a character until having direct contact with it. The second scan well isnt a sensing feat, Naruto's chakra has been noted by a number of users, even miles away Sasuke (and others) were able to sense Naruto chakra. In the presence of Naruto it isnt hard to determine he chakra being shared, this is alway shown visually.

No, it is a sensing feat, he sensed the exact volume unlike the others who felt its presence only, he also sensed that the Yin Kurama's chakra was mixed in, that's a sensing feat as only sensors can distinguish between types of chakra like that when they are blended into one thing.

Already explained this on an earlier page, Naruto had no problems sensing Nagato, he just couldn't locate the source of the chakra. If he couldn't be sensed please tell me how Konoha figured out that his chakra couldn't be backtracked.

...He determined the amount, not that he simply shared chakra.

3) In a desert setting Garra controls the entire environment, what would stop he from creating this for one leg of the Buddha? the sand is already in the surrounding environment, he doesn't need to create anything. We've already seen him pull sand covering half of an entire village. Is one Buddha leg greater in size.

One leg? The Buddha's whole footing is larger than Kurama's own footing. [

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] Getting one leg isn't helping here considering its whole footing is much more than one leg.

Buddha would pound them with Chojo Kebutsu before they could attempt anything anyway, and I'm still seeing no counter to that.

Also, Hashimara doesn't have automatic defense. In using Buddha, he hands are stationed, Jiriya entering into SM. Therefore, him performing a jutsu to shield C4 is unlikely.

If he's on Buddha it won't reach him, it has a range and Buddha is way out of that range as shown in my other post.

Muu's dust release can surely take care of the others, or some of the hands coming forwards.

Buddha's hands individually are far larger than any kind of Jinton Mu can fire given that they were able to snatch up Full Kurama. Mu isn't doing any serious damage to it, not to mention Jinton requires prep and he isn't prepping it before Buddha's hands turn him into paste.

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

If the Buddha is activated, it wouldn't even reach Hashirama given C0's height.

it has been already calced that buddha isn't even close to 10kmeters

 

[HNIC]

No, it is a sensing feat, he sensed the exact volume unlike the others who felt its presence only, he also sensed that the Yin Kurama's chakra was mixed in, that's a sensing feat as only sensors can distinguish between types of chakra like that when they are blended into one thing.

Already explained this on an earlier page, Naruto had no problems sensing Nagato, he just couldn't locate the source of the chakra. If he couldn't be sensed please tell me how Konoha figured out that his chakra couldn't be backtracked.

...He determined the amount, not that he simply shared chakra.




One leg? The Buddha's whole footing is larger than Kurama's own footing. [

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] Getting one leg isn't helping here considering its whole footing is much more than one leg.

Buddha would pound them with Chojo Kebutsu before they could attempt anything anyway, and I'm still seeing no counter to that.



If he's on Buddha it won't reach him, it has a range and Buddha is way out of that range as shown in my other post.



Buddha's hands individually are far larger than any kind of Jinton Mu can fire given that they were able to snatch up Full Kurama. Mu isn't doing any serious damage to it, not to mention Jinton requires prep and he isn't prepping it before Buddha's hands turn him into paste.

ok, I won't count out the possibility of sensing. Since I can't FULLY dismiss that, i wont' discount it.

2) The full Kyuubi is less than half the size of the leaf village (I know the villages differ) but let's look at the length of the kyuubi and structure of the statue.

As this scan shows, the statue itself (the legs) aren't the same size (width) as the kyuubi. It is smaller.

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The kyuubi here is less than half of a village

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Now, this is Garra pulling sand in mid-air. This wasnt present prior, as in this environment!

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Therefore, I can't see how Garra isn't capable of controlling sand greater than the statue. He has shown feats of creating sand its size (excluding the arms) in mid-air, so on the ground already covered with sand Garra can do the same and exceed these limits.

As a result of this, c4 can take an effect. Since c4 is the height of the full kyuubi (even greater)

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Full Kyuubi at the height of trees...

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C4 at the height of trees...

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An effected buddha...

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Edit: Thanks to Stricts fail post, we see in greater detail that the height difference between the Kyuubi and Hashimara isn't that great.

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Muu can react. the hands arent blitzing Muu. Those hands are still trees and we've already seen dust release destroy them instantly. In the image above we see the arms/hands reaching out to punch. Dust release can counter most hands as shown here

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except he'll won't need to wrap the extended arms, once dust release makes contact they'll be destroyed. (NOT ALL OF THE HANDS). *this is an example to help demonstrate for visual purposes*

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DO YOU SEE?

 

[KidGamer65]

it has been already calced that buddha isn't even close to 10kmeters

C0 is 10km wide, not tall. Not to mention its as weak as shit compared to what the Buddha already survived.

 

[HNIC]

C0 is 10km wide, not tall. Not to mention its as weak as shit compared to what the Buddha already survived.

I do know that Hashimara isnt at the very top of the statue right? lol

btw i posted

 

[KidGamer65]

I do know that Hashimara isnt at the very top of the statue right? lol

btw i posted

Still far taller than C0, regardless it doesn't matter as it isn't even making the Buddha flinch.

I'll reply later.

 

[HNIC]

Still far taller than C0, regardless it doesn't matter as it isn't even making the Buddha flinch.

I'll reply later.

c0 can be used anywhere, this isnt a stationary jutsu. Therefore, Deidara can use c0 in one of his birds of he liked.

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this isnt a jutsu like c4. Also, I think you may underesitame its hright to begin with.

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cO height

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look where Hashimara is lol.

I'll be back later or tomorrow as well.

 

[Strict]

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gg.

 

[HNIC]

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gg.

don't spam please, this thread has done just fine w/o that. Also, all I see are broken hands everywhere.

btw thanks for that image, it really displays the height difference from Hashimara's position.

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

C0 is 10km wide, not tall. Not to mention its as weak as shit compared to what the Buddha already survived.

it can be clearly seen that its height and width are about the same
lol

 

[Strict]

These "broken" hands were sliced by the Bijuudama barrage with the perfect Susanoo's sword blades inside them.
There is no need to debate this, when Hashirama stomps these guys. Muu at his prime is fodder for Madara, wo didn't even use his strongest techniques.

Sasuke survived c0 inside of Manda, but Hashirama won't?
Hashirama can't just drop a gate from above to pin Deidara down and finish him in a second?
Hashirama can't just create 24 wood clones to let each of them fight eight Hashiramas with every clone having a durability similar to a human and the abilities of the original, like several Mokuton techniques, Bringer of Darkness Genjutsu, etc.?
Hashirama can't just enter Sage mode to drop a few gates on them in the quantity he did to Obito?
And then create Shinsuusenju, which towers mountains, to shatter them with his 1000 hands?

But yeah, a scenario in which a Shinobi like Hashirama will be overwhelmed by a three men team consisting of the likes of Deidara and Gaara is more realistic than the other way around. People lack common sense. Hashirama has a godlike power. Anything you can imagine. Perfect prowess in all arts of a Ninja, the according to the databook most versatile Kekkei Genkai on a landscape changing level, medical skills near Tsunade's level and Sage Mode. Not to mention his Chakra level which he compares to Kyuubi. Your team is trash. The Gokage was gonna be one shotted by the perfect Susanoo. Hashirama is a level above that.

 

[HNIC]

These "broken" hands were sliced by the Bijuudama barrage with the perfect Susanoo's sword blades inside them.
There is no need to debate this, when Hashirama stomps these guys. Muu at his prime is fodder for Madara, wo didn't even use his strongest techniques.

Sasuke survived c0 inside of Manda, but Hashirama won't?
Hashirama can't just drop a gate from above to pin Deidara down and finish him in a second?
Hashirama can't just create 24 wood clones to let each of them fight eight Hashiramas with every clone having a durability similar to a human and the abilities of the original, like several Mokuton techniques, Bringer of Darkness Genjutsu, etc.?
Hashirama can't just enter Sage mode to drop a few gates on them in the quantity he did to Obito?
And then create Shinsuusenju, which towers mountains, to shatter them with his 1000 hands?

But yeah, a scenario in which a Shinobi like Hashirama will be overwhelmed by a three men team consisting of the likes of Deidara and Gaara is more realistic than the other way around. People lack common sense. Hashirama has a godlike power. Anything you can imagine. Perfect prowess in all arts of a Ninja, the according to the databook most versatile Kekkei Genkai on a landscape changing level, medical skills near Tsunade's level and Sage Mode. Not to mention his Chakra level which he compares to Kyuubi. Your team is trash. The Gokage was gonna be one shotted by the perfect Susanoo. Hashirama is a level above that.

Obviously you're just posting to post.

-The moment you mentioned gates your claim=shit since those all were restricted in OP to begin with.
-Sasuke didn't survive cO, he avoided c0 and Manda still died.
-Clones have been discusses, but Onoki already 1-shot those. If you didn't know, I gave Muu his feats and made Garra the jink.
-medical skills cannot reverse c4
-Bringer of Darkness Genjutsu isnt catching three long range fighters, who all can take flight.

your post have been invalid, than you talk realistically haha. Please refrain from posting, your bull is not needed and nor will I entertain it.