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Does not make my point irrelevant as we both agree that the next level is not harder then the previous but is added on, on top of the previous layer.
When the hell did I agree to that? Again, if this bullshit was true then V2 Susanoo's layer wouldn't have tanked an attack much stronger than what was destroying V1 Susanoo's layer. The layers get stronger in terms of defense. Period. Manga fact. To disagree means you are disagreeing with manga.
If I agreed with your nonsense, then I'd be agreeing that Ay can crack a Perfect Susanoo since the layer has the same durability as the other layers but its only added on. If I agreed with your nonsense, then it'd only take multiple hits of an attack strong enough to destroy Ribcage to completely destroy PS.
Which is clearly false seeing as PS has tanked Bijuu Dama w/ zero damage yet Ribcage couldn't even tank Ay's fist with zero damage.
I don't think it cause it wasn't shown. Its as simple as that. You can only show that Iron Sand can do more damage than a non weighted Ay's fist. Not that it can do more than a weighted Ay's fist.Why don't you think that the weight it can gather is not equal to how heavy and powerful onoki made Ay's strikes? I have already shown and displayed that even without the weights Ay has shown to still do lesser damage then with it.
If he stopped then he clearly didn't use speed to smash Susanoo. Again, you aren't even making sense here.Not entirely since Ay did break his wheels before (when he saw ammy covered) attempting to smash Sussano, and still manage with enough speed force to succeed.
False. Everything you said was false and is completely disagreed with by the manga.We already got to that point that each level was not shown to be harder then the previous level but add on to , meaning the people who display damaging Sussanoo can still crack or break a layer but doesn't mean it will damage the previous layer. The next layer will soften the blow for previous thus, why Sussanoo is haxs.
You mean this nonsense you posted?Same as above.
Them not encountering each other in the manga doesn't give you the right to invent power for them. Learn how to debate.And what is wrong with the assumption that I backed up regarding each of these two moves not encountering each other ever in the manga?
Same as above
Again with the BS?
Not entirely since Ay did break his wheels before (when he saw ammy covered) attempting to smash Sussano, and still manage with enough speed force to succeed."
I also shown scans that he can increase the speed even further. The whole point was speed force in general since the Sand does have back up weight and power.
Ay clearly didn't use speed to get past Susanoo as he stopped before attacking. You are starting to contradict yourself.
Nothing you said shows me that it moves as fast as Ay.
Oh?Trust me I you and I can re read my post and you won't see anywhere in my post that I mean anything of bypassing Sussanoo.
Stop wanking Sussanoo's durability to underrate Iron Sand. Sussanoo has failed to fully protect itself with powerful blunt force or penetration, therefore with the manga scans I shown and backed up (again), and Sasori's judgment of how much magnetism and Iron Sand he needs to use, it has the same blunt force and speed power to at least crack a layer (meeting you half-way with that conclusion)
L2Read.
That is what I was simplifying the whole time. The Manga says the 3rd's Jiton is able to convert his chakra .Bansho does not pull through magnetic force so that wasn't a good example to get your point out.
(Pretend this is straight)"II can tell you and this is what happens. "I"=wall/sheath. Magnet "I Screw. If I were to move the Magnet above one sheath on top the Screw will follow up with it depending on how strong the magnet is.
Except the scabbard is not made of metal, so again your point?Not to mention that the scabbard is expose too.
Sorry pal. Blaming it on inconsistencies and plot or whatever you are trying to blame it on isn't a valid counter. Try again.Yes the same logic that he is able to re use his sepbon spam with Hiruko on the floor and yet magically disappear from the manga. You get where I'm going with this, I hope
Not really.False. I explain this already and how magnets work.
False. I explain already on how it works
Again, you haven't done anything. You've only made up a lot of BS.
Read my post again:
"He also can use the same move Gaara did to Madara but with a different method. Once he gathers Sand on Susanoo, to whole down, he can use the magnetic priorities on Sasuke's sword to push him forward (due to Sasuke leaving it on his backYou must be registered for see links). With that said Sasuke can push Sasuke out byYou must be registered for see links
Repeating the same nonsense over and over again isn't helping your argument.
-Sasuke isn't going to be pushed outside of Susanoo as the metallic part of his sword is not exposed.
-The scabbard is no issue as it is clearly made of what the sheathe is made of. Not metal.
-By your logic Iron Sand would have constantly attracted Sakura towards it as she had metallic weapons on her person. But it didn't.
Again. You make no sense.
3rd Kazekage can convert his chakra into magnetic force. By adding more chakra is making the magnetic field stronger. Magnets can still attract things even if there is a "wall" behind something. Thats how it works. Not the to mention that the scabbard is still expose regardless.
Read above.
We weren't talking about Susanoo's durability? Lmao..L2Read.But we weren't talking about that at all so why go off topic.
Madara's is better in every way.
"instead of the manga showing its has the same strength, with more layer regardless."
Its not really important so it doesn't matter.
You need to quote me more often so there will not be any conflict and name calling in a discussion, when there needs to be some type of understanding.
As for the quote we were talking about the Durability of Sussanoo encountering Iron Sand.
Strength: the quality or state of being strong, in particular. The sentence still makes sense in particular when I said strength of sussanoo because look at the comma right after: "with more layer regardless." The sentence only makes sense when talking about the durability of Sussanoo.
Ok and? I already know that you were referring to Susanoo's durability, main reason why this post is a fail.