MS Sasuke vs MS Kakashi

Who wins this fight?


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shelke

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Even in normal these jins gave hard time to KM Naruto and Bee.Bee was far above Sasuke's speed even when Sasuke got 3 ninja to babysitting him, and Bee and Naruto against these "restrained" are struggling and hardly keep up with them.They utilized their eye since they share same visions and sharingan predictions which matter against speed.It doesn't matter what you say, you're just speculating again.

So he didn't keep with their speed? You're blind or trolling.More like speculation and biased interpretation.I already proved you wrong i'm talking about speed not strengh, Kakashi keep up with them as i showed in the manga pages in my post.An other fan fiction from you you say normal mode jins speed > cloaked mode jins speed, Lol it's getting ridiculous.Naruto and Bee struggled even more once the jins turned cloaked and they even said to retreat, it's almost cost naruto being captured.You just say what arrange you to downgrade Kakashi by contradict the manga itself.

Nono it was a statue while you're in it Lol, you're out of subject i'm talking about speed, show me where Kakashi got surpassed by their speed, it doesn't exist.There are 5 moving cloaked jins in front of Kakashi and Gai, and the manga clearly proved that Kakashi+Gai 6th gate keep up with them your opinion doesn't matter.

Well Sasuke couldn't even keep up against only 1 cloaked jin at 4 vs 1 and would be dead 2 times in the same fight.The same Bee with Naruto admitted that once edo jins got power up they were going to retreat but for you normal speed jins > cloaked jins as you like contradict the manga.

I already proved you that his intention wasn't to kill Sasuke.There is no need excuse when i gave evidence showing Kakashi without sharingan owning Sasuke, then Kakashi punching him away instead of raikiri him and still trying to get him back whereas Sasuke has intent to kill and imediatly us MS while Kakashi is on base mode but still Sasuke .I gave enough enough proof and manga scans but for you The whole manga is fan fiction Lol

2 means multiples, as i said Kakashi clearly said his intention to not kill him.Even despite that Sasuke imediatly activated MS before Kakashi, he still failed.Read few pages later when Kakashi is decided to kill Sasuke untill Tobi and Zetsucame to save him.The manga already debunked your fan fiction opinion.


Fact remains, Sasuke got lucky that Kakashi was patient and still wanted to give a chance to Sasuke, otherwize he'd be one shoted like he was going to do with intent to kill when Tobi was there.
- Which scans are we talking about? Where he charged at them, or where one was sitting down doing nothing, or where Kakashi was slapped back shamefully as soon as he tried to chew more than he could handle?

- The Jins running at them.
- Taking on a single one.
- As soon as he tried taking on another one, he slapped him back. Obito confirms that the Jins weren't at their full power, as it required massive chakra to control them.

See Naruto in these scans? He's doing just fine, when he was blitzed shamefully several times by Normal Mode Jins.

- Obito's point is already countered.

- He only took out Gobi's tails, who was basically just sitting there. Orochimaru has shown better feats against V2 Naruto:



- Keep making excuses. He tried to put Sasuke down and failed both times. Stop making assumptions. Fact is, your logic is backed by nothing but your own nonsense. I already proved through scans how Kakahsi failed to take on Multiple Jins, how Obito wasn't using them at their fully potential, how Naruto didn't get blitzed here. Get good eye-droplets.
 
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@Shelke: Dude, I don't even think you should be wasting your time on someone who believes that Kakashi can beat an EMS Sasuke. He is obviously a blind hater who is scared to go to the VERSUS section and make a thread there. He has no point other than Kamui, which is chakra consuming while EMS can spam Enton like fireworks.
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I'll go for Kakashi on this one, that Raiton bunshin and hiding-like-a-mole feints trolls Sasuke's main arsenal.
Not to mention Kamui too.
 

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@Shelke: Dude, I don't even think you should be wasting your time on someone who believes that Kakashi can beat an EMS Sasuke. He is obviously a blind hater who is scared to go to the VERSUS section and make a thread there. He has no point other than Kamui, which is chakra consuming while EMS can spam Enton like fireworks.
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I am done with him anyway. The claims that he made about Kakashi keeping up with High-Speed Jins, Blitzing them, and taking on Multiple Opponents at once are refuted. Anyone who believes him has clearly lost it.
 

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I'm suprise that more ppl think Kakashi wins.

Fact: Sasuke has Kirin, Kakashi no counter for that. Sasuke has Susanoo and Amatersu which he can also change chakra forms
As if he'll ever get the chance to use Kirin. Only reason Sasuke even got that far with Itachi is because Itachi was testing his power, he wasn't even trying to kill Sasuke.

Amaterasu is useless, Kakashi has already shown that his Kamui can remove fatal jutsu away from him. Seen when Minato's sage art rasengan hit Kakashi and he used Kamui to remove it immediately, receiving hardly any damage. Black flames can be easily removed.

If Kamui can crack a big whole in Juubi Madara's black orb defense, then it will have no problem opening up Susanoo.

The poll isn't lying, Kakashi is just that good.
 

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As if he'll ever get the chance to use Kirin. Only reason Sasuke even got that far with Itachi is because Itachi was testing his power, he wasn't even trying to kill Sasuke.

Amaterasu is useless, Kakashi has already shown that his Kamui can remove fatal jutsu away from him. Seen when Minato's sage art rasengan hit Kakashi and he used Kamui to remove it immediately, receiving hardly any damage. Black flames can be easily removed.

If Kamui can crack a big whole in Juubi Madara's black orb defense, then it will have no problem opening up Susanoo.

The poll isn't lying, Kakashi is just that good.
yes becaues sasuke will just stand there and watch kakashi kamui the flames of him. as soon as the flames hit him sasuke follows it up with an arrow. he has much more in his arsenal to destroy kakashi who is terribly overrated. people are saying kamui one shots yet forget amaterasu can also one shot kakashi.
who cares about the polls? they are just opinions and doesnt make it true. more like overrated but yh hes good ill give him that.
 

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- Which scans are we talking about? Where he charged at them, or where one was sitting down doing nothing, or where Kakashi was slapped back shamefully as soon as he tried to chew more than he could handle?

- The Jins running at them.
- Taking on a single one.
- As soon as he tried taking on another one, he slapped him back. Obito confirms that the Jins weren't at their full power, as it required massive chakra to control them.

See Naruto in these scans? He's doing just fine, when he was blitzed shamefully several times by Normal Mode Jins.

- Obito's point is already countered.

- He only took out Gobi's tails, who was basically just sitting there. Orochimaru has shown better feats against V2 Naruto:



- Keep making excuses. He tried to put Sasuke down and failed both times. Stop making assumptions. Fact is, your logic is backed by nothing but your own nonsense. I already proved through scans how Kakahsi failed to take on Multiple Jins, how Obito wasn't using them at their fully potential, how Naruto didn't get blitzed here. Get good eye-droplets.
You are again deviating subect because you have no answer with my evidences, i'm talking about speed there.I said Kakashi keep up with Gai 6th gate which you ignored and changed subject/finding excuses.I said Kakashi keep up with cloaked jins speed that ran at him and he was even able to hit them.What are you talking about? As i said you contradicted yourself as soon as you said that normal jins where faster than cloaked jins which is ridiculous, the manga proved it wrong since as soon as they got cloaked, Naruto was almost captured and Bee said they should retreat.Other point which you ignored is Sasuke being surpassed by Bee's speed despite taking 4 vs1 and Sasuke got his life saved several times.


Bee himself rekognize the power up
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Naruto had hard time against their speed too

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Even Bee said to Naruto that they should retreat which completly destroy your points

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You are good at deviating when you have no answers, i was talking about speed now you bring Gobi and Orochimaru, by the way Oro failed to could not even slash naruto cloak while Kakashi cut throws these cloaks but it's not the subject.

Kakashi never tried to kill Sasuke when he saved Sakura and punching him away, an other fan fiction from you because you have no answer.

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Even here Kakashi is standing while Sasuke start attacking
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There again did Kakashi try to kill Sasuke with a single punch? No.
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Only later when Kakashi knew he killed Danzo, Kakashi finally got intend to kill him and even told naruto and Sakura to leave.

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Bee's speed was one of the reasons about why he owned Sasuke 2 times which would cost his life if Karin and Juugo was not there, you still ignore it it's your problem.Weither they used full power or not isn't the problem, i'm talking about speed they got stronger and faster in cloak mode, they were restrained by the fact they coulnd't use rinnegan powers which has nothing to do with speed, when Gai required 6th gates it's one more proof to shows how fast they are.The same Bee with same speed got harder time against these "restricted" Jins speed than when he fought team taka, the same jins that Bee was confronted couldn't surpass Kakashi's speed and Gai 6th gate when they attacked each others.I gave manga evidence while you gave fan fiction and speculation.You only deviate subject, ignore manga fact, speculate with biased opinion.As i said you had no answer so your only optoins was to deviate subject, speculate and find excuses .
 

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I see everybody's hung up on the question "how does Sasuke counter Kamui" but the REAL question is "How does Sasuke counter 1000 years of death?"

Of all the jutsu listed, that is by FAR the most op jutsu in existence. Sasuke can't win against that. Kakashi would have solo'd Jubito and Jubidara with that jutsu negligible difficulty, he just wants everybody else to get panel time.

Seriously though, Kakashi's got this one, medium difficulty.
 
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