MS Sasuke vs MS Kakashi

Who wins this fight?


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shelke

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You summed up my thoughts on the matter. It's essentially the same situation where Sasuke was supposedly running at the same speed as KCM Naruto back when Sakura almost got herself killed, and everyone made a big deal about it.

One's only as fast as their surroundings allow them to be.

Because Running on Foot and Strike Speed are totally the same thing. Are you for real, or what? That has got to be the most ridiculous logic I have come across from the likes of you.
 

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So, Same might go for Kakashi... Except the fact that Kakashi isn't as fast as the raikage...

Kakashi doesn't have to be as fast as the Raikage because he's smarter than both Raikage and Sasuke combined.

Kakashi wins.
 

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it shows in the manga 7th gate guy keeping up with sage madara, it took obito and kakashi's double kamui to even be able to not get killed so its ludicrious to say kakashi is as fast as 6th gate guy
 

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Because Running on Foot and Strike Speed are totally the same thing. Are you for real, or what? That has got to be the most ridiculous logic I have come across from the likes of you.

No, that scan presents striking speed with Sasuke's Enton and Naruto's chakra arm Rasenshuriken. I've seen people use that as a foot speed comparison, which is flawed, isn't it?

I probably should have made myself more clear on the matter.
 

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Common sense obviously saids 6 gated Gai wasnt going top notch speed... Keeping pace with him isnt much a feat, hardly worth mentioning.

Even so guy was still in gates. And he still had speed.
It's not like he walked up to the jins he'd get his ass handed to him if he did that.

The fact that they fought multiple v2 opponents with joint vision and sharingan and only got hit once( which both guarded against) is worth mentioning. Especially since killer b and naruto couldn't pull it off.


I respected your opinion. Please respect mine:)
 

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Sasuke lost the cursed seal prior to unlocking ms

Ot: sasuke takes this high dif
 

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Even so guy was still in gates. And he still had speed.
It's not like he walked up to the jins he'd get his ass handed to him if he did that.

The fact that they fought multiple v2 opponents with joint vision and sharingan and only got hit once( which both guarded against) is worth mentioning. Especially since killer b and naruto couldn't pull it off.


I respected your opinion. Please respect mine:)

Your opinion is wrong! But im studying for my history exams tomorrow so I wont be able to educate you.

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No, that scan presents striking speed with Sasuke's Enton and Naruto's chakra arm Rasenshuriken. I've seen people use that as a foot speed comparison, which is flawed, isn't it?

I probably should have made myself more clear on the matter.

I was talking about Sasuke reaching Sakura before KCM Naruto could. Yes, Sasuke's striking speed is faster.
 

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Kakashi will become tired before Sasuke does. His battle with Danzo proves that he has good fatigue when it comes to battles. Kakashi uses Kamui like twice and can barely stand on his two feet without falling on his ass. Sasuke can spam more arrows than Kakashi can use Kamui +Sasuke can use Amaterasu which Kakashi has no way around. Kakashi's Kamui is manly for defense, so while Sasuke is using one attack, Kakashi will use Kamui and Sasuke will fire another attack immediately.
 

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Your opinion is wrong! But im studying for my history exams tomorrow so I wont be able to educate you.

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Did they not fight against multiple v2 jins?
Did they not guard against the one attack that their opposition landed?

The very same jins that handed naruto and bee their ass in base?

There's nothing wrong with my opinion. All I did was state what happened. Maybe u should take some advice from your sig.
 
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I was talking about Sasuke reaching Sakura before KCM Naruto could. Yes, Sasuke's striking speed is faster.

Oh, that wasn't the scan I was talking about. I probably should have posted the one I was talking about, that's my fault.
 
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I always love this thread. Will maybe make an argument for Sasuke if I'm not feeling like a lazy *****.
 

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Did they not fight against multiple v2 jins?

The very same jins that handed naruto and bee their ass in base?

There's nothing wrong with my opinion. All I did was state what happened.

When you honestly look at what the v2 jins did to kakashi and Gai honestly it was hardly anything amazing.
 
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Alright, so I'm just going to assume that this is Manga Intel, by which Sasuke has at least semi-full intel on Kakashi's Kamui. He starts the battle off with Amaterasu, I suppose. Assuming Kakashi doesn't expect it there's no way in hell he can use Kamui on it or while engulfed by it.

There is my fodder opinion, and it is fodder as always.
 

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When you honestly look at what the v2 jins did to kakashi and Gai honestly it was hardly anything amazing.


When you look at what they did to naruto and bee.
The v2 jins didn't even land a solid hit on the duo yet stomped b and naruto.
It's pretty impressive.
 

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The Jins weren't using their Ocular Powers, both Kakashi and Obito confirm it. They blitzed no one, and Kakashi didn't take on multiple opponents. NB.

Oh, that wasn't the scan I was talking about. I probably should have posted the one I was talking about, that's my fault.

My mistake then. I jumped the gun, so I apologize.
 

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- Those Jins were heavily restrained through Obito, as he couldn't control them and thus, even their eyes were not being utilized.

Even in normal these jins gave hard time to KM Naruto and Bee.Bee was far above Sasuke's speed even when Sasuke got 3 ninja to babysitting him, and Bee and Naruto against these "restrained" are struggling and hardly keep up with them.They utilized their eye since they share same visions and sharingan predictions which matter against speed.It doesn't matter what you say, you're just speculating again.

- He didn't keep up with anyone. He charged at them. Attacked one, and as soon as he tried taking on one more, it slapped him back. There is your so-called proof for keeping up. Their Speed Feats in this form were laughable, given how they blitzed KCM Naruto in a funny manner several times in their normal forms. Fact.

So he didn't keep with their speed? You're blind or trolling.More like speculation and biased interpretation.I already proved you wrong i'm talking about speed not strengh, Kakashi keep up with them as i showed in the manga pages in my post.An other fan fiction from you you say normal mode jins speed > cloaked mode jins speed, Lol it's getting ridiculous.Naruto and Bee struggled even more once the jins turned cloaked and they even said to retreat, it's almost cost naruto being captured.You just say what arrange you to downgrade Kakashi by contradict the manga itself.


- The only Jin whose tails he took out, was Gobi. And guess what? He was literally sitting, completely still. Who did he keep up with, again?

Nono it was a statue while you're in it Lol, you're out of subject i'm talking about speed, show me where Kakashi got surpassed by their speed, it doesn't exist.There are 5 moving cloaked jins in front of Kakashi and Gai, and the manga clearly proved that Kakashi+Gai 6th gate keep up with them your opinion doesn't matter.

Well Sasuke couldn't even keep up against only 1 cloaked jin at 4 vs 1 and would be dead 2 times in the same fight.The same Bee with Naruto admitted that once edo jins got power up they were going to retreat but for you normal speed jins > cloaked jins as you like contradict the manga.


- He couldn't land a single decisive hit on Sasuke. Don't make excuses. He wanted to incapacitate the guy, and he couldn't. All his hits were perfectly guarded and Evaded. All manga facts. Yours? Nothing but assumptions. On what grounds have you made that ridiculous claim? Taijutsu well above Sasuke or god-forbid owned him? Where did this ever happen? Lol This guy. Nice Fan-Fiction.

I already proved you that his intention wasn't to kill Sasuke.There is no need excuse when i gave evidence showing Kakashi without sharingan owning Sasuke, then Kakashi punching him away instead of raikiri him and still trying to get him back whereas Sasuke has intent to kill and imediatly us MS while Kakashi is on base mode but still Sasuke .I gave enough enough proof and manga scans but for you The whole manga is fan fiction Lol

- What multiple arrows? There were only two - staked on top of one another, which he warped away by creating a Warp Point exactly in front of himself, just like he did with the nail.

2 means multiples, as i said Kakashi clearly said his intention to not kill him.Even despite that Sasuke imediatly activated MS before Kakashi, he still failed.Read few pages later when Kakashi is decided to kill Sasuke untill Tobi and Zetsucame to save him.The manga already debunked your fan fiction opinion.

- Fact remains, Kakashi got lucky because Sasuke was losing his sight fast, otherwise, he was tripping his balls. Fact.

Fact remains, Sasuke got lucky that Kakashi was patient and still wanted to give a chance to Sasuke, otherwize he'd be one shoted like he was going to do with intent to kill when Tobi was there.
 

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I'm suprise that more ppl think Kakashi wins.

Fact: Sasuke has Kirin, Kakashi no counter for that. Sasuke has Susanoo and Amatersu which he can also change chakra forms
 
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