MS Sasuke Uchiha vs. 3rd Raikage

[Draegod]

Just stop:

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And you also have no proof that Sasuke was attempting to use genjutsu on Ay.

Please why don't you just stop posting! Deidara purposely allowed himself to be caught in the genjutsu and made direct eye contact because he could break it and counter attack at any point. And your "you have no proof" BS is funny, Because you have no proof he didn't want to catch Aye in a genjutsu. See what I did there?

 

[slimreaper]

sasuke can't react to V1 ay's speed?

Notice Jugo, not sasuke is surprised

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here we see him say he doesn't need their help

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sasuke continually runs in to fight the raikage close range.

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Its obvious he was wanting to test susanoo

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its also obvious that is what obito wanted of him

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So morons, stop with the "sasuke can't keep up with V1 Ay" bullshit, the only time he wanted to react is when he felt he had a kill shot. Other than that he was clearly testing susanoo

Im looking at you draegod

 

[Kamui Sama]

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Ay should have blitzed Sauce the moment they encountered each other with his top speed Lol

 

[Draegod]

sasuke can't react to V1 ay's speed?

Notice Jugo, not sasuke is surprised

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here we see him say he doesn't need their help

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sasuke continually runs in to fight the raikage close range.

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Its obvious he was wanting to test susanoo

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its also obvious that is what obito wanted of him

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So morons, stop with the "sasuke can't keep up with V1 Ay" bullshit, the only time he wanted to react is when he felt he had a kill shot. Other than that he was clearly testing susanoo

Im looking at you draegod

So your excuse is he wanted to test susanoo all them times is the reason why he was blitz etc etc. Cool story bro. So you basically are saying that fight was childplay and meant literally nothing to sasuke. And what does susanoo have to do with Matching or intercepting blitzing speed again? Even though he couldn't and didn't once blitz or overwhelm a old cripple Danzou? (as long as you know he is slower and cannot match his blitz speed i want waist time breaking things down)

I'm outie 5000 my guy, no need to waist anymore time.

 

[slimreaper]

So your excuse is he wanted to test susanoo all them times is the reason why he was blitz etc etc. Cool story bro. So you basically are saying that fight was childplay and meant literally nothing to sasuke. And what does susanoo have to do with Matching or intercepting blitzing speed again? Even though he couldn't and didn't once blitz or overwhelm a old cripple Danzou? (as long as you know he is slower and cannot match his blitz speed i want waist time breaking things down)

I'm outie 5000 my guy, no need to waist anymore time.

What you mean he couldn't overwhelm danzo?

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Obito directly stated he sent sasuke there to train. Why would sasuke not be surprised if he was "blitzed"?

 

[Draegod]

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Ay should have blitzed Sauce the moment they encountered each other with his top speed Lol

Should have! But didn't for what ever reason, i guess because they wanted to

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(the cloud team).

What Cee should have done was used the blinding light jutsu instead of the blinding light genjutsu.

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Even Madara had to block the light, that in conjunction with a blitz would have forced sasuke into a early use of susanoo.

 

[Draegod]

What you mean he couldn't overwhelm danzo?

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Obito directly stated he sent sasuke there to train. Why would sasuke not be surprised if he was "blitzed"?

With speed not standing still relying on susanoo. Had nothing to do with the fight, but merely what happened. You don't get what i meant at all i see. Plus the fact Danzo was testing sasuke and playing with him with out his 3 tomoe active! Please danzo would rape if fair fight! but that isn't the topic at hand

 

[slimreaper]

With speed not standing still relying on susanoo. Had nothing to do with the fight, but merely what happened. You don't get what i meant at all i see. Plus the fact Danzo was testing sasuke and playing with him with out his 3 tomoe active! Please danzo would rape if fair fight! but that isn't the topic at hand

sasuke barely moved that entire fight, he fought from inside susanoo. When danzo outmanuvered sasuke, it was due to sasuke being bout half blind and fighting all day using MS.

 

[Phonas]

Danzou didn't even care about dodging in both of those scans as he had izanagi activated.

Yes because he wants to fruitlessly waste time while having Izanagi active, knowing full well that he can't unlimitedly use each Sharingan since he only has a limited amount of them.

However in the scan we know he DIDN'T have it activated, and therefore can be killed guess what?

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Except the hand of the skeletal Susanoo physically made contact with Danzo and slapped him away. Notice in that scan there's an onomatopoeia of "*slap*" The intention was never to grab, but rather to push away the point blank sword assault from Danzo as fast as possible.

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Okay, but then that would mean Kabuto's Complete Dragon Sage Mode grants him the necessary reflexes/reaction speed/body flicker speed to react to and dodge an attack of that speed, considering he already evaded a super fast arrow shot from Sasuke. Or that the Skeletal Susanoo doesn't provide the movement speed I'm referring to since Itachi utilized his Complete Susanoo to move the Susanoo hand at the velocity I was referring to. Afterall, Sasuke uses his extremely fast arrows only in his complete stage of Susanoo. Or perhaps it depends upon the Susanoo user and how fast/strong they're able to move the Susanoo arms.

Um, the explanation point was shown before[/URL] as nagato's eyes only turned light after he got stabbed. Kabuto stated that

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Shinra tensei most likely could not be used since nagato had just used chibaku tensei and therefore his abilities were in cooldown.

No, the exclamation mark came after the fact. While Itachi was in the process of moving the ethereal blade, Nagato showed no signs of reaction during that process. He never sensed or saw it coming because it moved too fast.

Kabuto stated no such thing. He never explicitly stated that Nagato got caught in the Totsuka because of his immobility as he would have no way of knowing that since Kabuto himself didn't even see the attack coming as well.

The Edo Tensei chakra regeneration should have nullified the cooldown process after CT was destroyed as Naruto + Itachi + Bee were falling from air, probably.

 

[Phonas]

Please why don't you just stop posting! Deidara purposely allowed himself to be caught in the genjutsu and made direct eye contact because he could break it and counter attack at any point. And your "you have no proof" BS is funny, Because you have no proof he didn't want to catch Aye in a genjutsu. See what I did there?

You've stated that Sasuke couldn't make clear direct eye contact with Ay. That wouldn't make sense when you take a look at the distance between them and when taking into consideration the aforementioned aerial eye contact circumstance that Sasuke demonstrated. If Sasuke was able to cast an ocular genjutsu on Deidara from the ground where the latter was obscurely high into the air (since making "clear direct eye contact" is extremely difficult for both opponents, if even possible from that high), then he sure as heck could have done it from within a small gap distance between himself and Ay compared to the ground and aerial disparity. Eye contact is eye contact, whether clear or not.

In other words, you're speculating that Sasuke was trying to use genjutsu on Ay, which is erroneous. Take note of how Sasuke chose to cast genjutsu on Cee instead.

 

[lanakui8]

Yes because he wants to fruitlessly waste time while having Izanagi active, knowing full well that he can't unlimitedly use each Sharingan since he only has a limited amount of them.

taking attacks and popping up somewhere else while sasuke doesn't know what the heck is happening is not fruitlessly wasting time. Being able to not even worry about defense is also not fruitlessly wasting time. Danzou was probing susanoo, and he didn't care about getting killed.

Except the hand of the skeletal Susanoo physically made contact with Danzo and slapped him away. Notice in that scan there's an onomatopoeia of "*slap*" The intention was never to grab, but rather to push away the point blank sword assault from Danzo as fast as possible.

It didn't slap him away, we see no contact with danzou, we see nothing that indicates a slap, and we don't see danzou going flying. We do see danzou's arm is cut so susanoo did graze him, but it failed to grab him.

Okay, but then that would mean Kabuto's Complete Dragon Sage Mode grants the necessary reflexes/reaction speed/body flicker speed to react to and dodge an attack of that speed, considering he already evaded a super fast arrow shot from Sasuke. Or that the Skeletal Susanoo doesn't provide the movement speed I'm referring to since Itachi utilized his Complete Susanoo version to move at the velocity I was referring to. Afterall, Susanoo uses his extremely fast arrows only in his complete stage of Susanoo. Or perhaps it depends upon the Susanoo user and how fast/strong they're able to move the Susanoo arms.

If you want to assert those things as true, you've got to give an argument, you can't just say "prove this wrong, else i'm right". Reactions granted by sennin mode had nothing to do with kabuto's ability to physically move way out of susanoo's grip before sasuke could even clench his fist, that was Kabuto's physical speed, and Sandaime raikage has greater physical speed than Kabuto.

No, the exclamation mark came after the fact. While Itachi was in the process of moving the ethereal blade, Nagato showed no signs of reaction during that process. He never sensed or saw it coming because it moved too fast.

but those are all assertions. Where's the argument based on the manga panel in which you draw those assertions from? I gave you an argument which is that had nagato reacted after he got stabbed, his eyes would not have been black.

Kabuto stated no such thing. He never explicitly stated that Nagato got caught in the Totsuka because of his immobility as he would have no way of knowing that since Kabuto himself didn't even see the attack coming as well.

The bolded is completely based on presupposing the conclusion that you are trying to argue is true. Nagato was defeated by totsuka, Kabuto blamed nagato's defeat on his mobility issues, thus has nagato not had the mobility issues, Nagato would not have been defeated by totsuka. That's made blatantly clear by the manga panels.

The Edo Tensei chakra regeneration should have nullified the cooldown process after CT was destroyed as Naruto + Itachi + Bee were falling from air, probably.

Edo tensei chakra regen has nothing to do with nullifying cooldown, as chakra quantity in general has nothing to do with nullifying deva path's cooldown. Such little time had passed from CT getting busted to nagato getting totsuka stabbed that the smoke from the explosion hadn't even cleared yet.

 

[Unorthodox]

damn where was i at i can shit on all these pathetic argument for the raikage no one not once mentioned Kirin tsk tsk tsk

Sasuke wins neg diff Amaterasu gg