MS Sasuke Uchiha vs. 3rd Raikage

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They take Obito with Rikudo Senjutsu level sensing to tell us how Sandaime will react and dodge Amaterasu. The same Juubito who was faster than Minato's Hiraishin, striking off his arm before he could jump, despite Minato even jumped faster than Ay's maximum speed.

Why wouldn't we just stop debate? Tell me. I have nothing to add to your arguments, as they are not even worth to be refused as I would only waste my time.
If Juubi jin Obito deflected a kunai, does that mean no one below him can deflect a kunai? Obviously not.

V2 Ei dodged amaterasu.....
Hebi Sasuke even dodged it initially....

all sandaime raikage has to do is shunshin like hebi sasuke did, except behind a tree.
 

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They take Obito with Rikudo Senjutsu level sensing to tell us how Sandaime will react and dodge Amaterasu. The same Juubito who was faster than Minato's Hiraishin, striking off his arm before he could jump, despite Minato even jumped faster than Ay's maximum speed.

Why wouldn't we just stop debate? Tell me. I have nothing to add to your arguments, as they are not even worth to be refused as I would only waste my time.
Nice try, I was clearly using this as a visual example. To prove that Raikage can see Sasuke preparing his eye for Amaterasu. As you were using terrible examples to prove that Amaterasu doesn't need preparations and comes out instantly.
 

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If this is in a forest why can't sasuke just set the forest aflame? one ama would do it, therefore limiting the raikage's movement. Sasuke can also control the flames...
 

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Not necessarily, raikage dodging ama would lead to hitting the forest. He either get's hit or lets the forest get hit-I think.
So the target is focus on Raikage then the forest? If the scenario happen to what you explained, but Sasuke continues to clear the forest with it, then he will need to focus more on the forest in order to limit Raikages movements.
 

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So the target is focus on Raikage then the forest? If the scenario happen to what you explained, but Sasuke continues to clear the forest with it, then he will need to focus more on the forest in order to limit Raikages movements.
Raikage would be the focus of the attack, but him dodging ama would mean ama hits the forest. I thought ama spread since it covered the 8 tails and Itachi's ama set the forest on fire before. One ama should hamper raikage enough to restrict his movements, as the battle continues ama would just spread more throughout the forest- I think.
 

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Sasuke wins this more times than not, or it can be a tie

--He is able to track Third Raikages speed and would be able to counter attack as well, meaning that he would set up his enton coated susanoo to backfire the raikages physical blows,

--He can also use genjutsu on the raikage, seeing how the raikage is a CQC fighter, and with sasuke being able to track his speed, he can most likely do this,

--This battle can be most likely a tie, seeing how sasukes enton coated susanoo would burn the raikage down, and if he has any susanoo under V4, then the thirds ultimate spear would break through his susanoo and proceeed to pierce sasuke down,
 
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lol didnt see that amaterasu thread again bro, the ones who counter it or you havent made it??
anyways your post was interesting so lemme give my two scents one by one.

Second, Ama is laughed at if it could connect. If anything Now he becomes a flaming weapon that sasuke now has to worry about. Fact one, it couldn't burn through basic fabric and standard meatal (Samurai) even when it was burning for a long period. Aye fought with it no diff, his Father will fight with it no diff and thanks to his armour will be safe from the flames like it is nothing but a breeze! lmao
on what notion is amaterasu laughed at?? it completely burned through toads stomach, the hachibi was lit in flames and was getting roasted, nagatos dog summons was oneshotted etc. 3rd raikage is obv more durable than those examples but that does not mean he can take an amaterasu and still fight efficiently, its a bit ridiculous to think so. the heat of amaterasu was enough for kabutos cave to return to its shape. amaterasu burns faster when the user focuses on a target i think thats been made logical considering the examples i gave. if sasuke catches the 3rd in it he is not laughing it off as it would be focused, even if it doesnt burn him then fighting sasuke as well as being in pain from is going to prove a difficult especially as sasuke can use enton and spread it all over him and the 3rd has no way to get it out of his body. it only hit ays arm not his whole body and he had to cut it off. a hit from ama and the 3rds chances of victory slims down. he has no chance of fighting sasuke in that condition.

Next is the false info and misinterpret of the manga that "sasuke kept up or is as fast as Aye"... -____- only retard uchiha fans think this! lmao Sasuke was overwhelmed by V1 Aye and only reason he landed a hit was because Aye decided to do a standard non blitzing Elbow from close range. Sasuke was blitz and didn't even know it.
sasuke had no problems with v1 ay. he clearly went head to head with him, was able to . that shows that sasuke didnt have issues with him. if ay was so overwhelming for him then sasuke shouldnt have been able to do that. also if juugo who clearly had no problems reacting to him, why should that be different for sasuke who is faster and has better reactions than juugo? his v1 speed was not a bother to any of the taka crew. in your scan they had used genjutsu to try and fool sasuke and co, sasuke realized it but they had already gotten close. if they didnt try genjutsu first sasuke would obviously have tracked them. by your logic sasuke darui can bliz sasuke right?
now with that being said the 3rd is not as fast as hes son so sasuke would have zero issues keeping up or reacting to him. if dodai could then sasuke shouldnt fare worse.

And with Full knowledge He would know the signs Ama' is coming. First sign MS, Second sign Close eyes and Bleed. With that slow ass process (for itachi aswell) he will simply move out of sasukes immediate sight. Giving full knowledge to the raikages is a big plus for them since they know what to expect and prepare for.
if he could evade sasukes line of sight sure.

Lastly is the retarded notion that He would get caught in Genjutsu just because its a Sharingan user... -_____-... As if he would stare in the eyes, as if 5 kages didn't fight 25 EMS/ETERNAL MANGEKYO SHARINGAN clones(from THE BEST UCHIHA OF ALL TIME who is god levels above sasuke in everything including strategies) and did not once get cuaght in genjutsu until one was distracted and let his guard down out of concern for another member. Madara then had to literally GRAB HIM FORCE HIM TO CLOSE RANGE AND USE GENJUTU!!!
clearly fighting without eye contact is not as easy as people make it seem. you have no proof madara even attempted genjutsu against the kages(prior to ay). what i saw was him using soosanos physical attack to try and pound them. if the 3rd comes close genjutsu is a factor, if not sasuke can attempt amaterasu. you contradict your post, you said the way for the 3rd to counter ama is when sasukes eye bleeed which gives off the signal but if he doesnt make eye contact due to genjutsu then how would he know when sasuke attempts ama? sasuke can easilhy used that to catch him off guard. dont underestimates amaterasu speed as . it would be difficult for the sandaime to fight sasuke without making eye contact as the latter as amaterasu in his locker.


3rd wins this mid at best and that's being nice! Shit is funny to me i swear. And the location doesn't matter that much either.
it can go either way imo.
 
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Raikage would be the focus of the attack, but him dodging ama would mean ama hits the forest. I thought ama spread since it covered the 8 tails and Itachi's ama set the forest on fire before. One ama should hamper raikage enough to restrict his movements, as the battle continues ama would just spread more throughout the forest- I think.
That assuming Sasuke has no limit to how long he can keep Ama focus. The flames spread depending on how much angled Sasuke covered. If Sasuke covers the forest in about 180 degree of coverage, it will only spread the position it covered. But again I doubt the distance is going to make Ama extent too much since the size of Ama goes by the size of the target
 

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That assuming Sasuke has no limit to how long he can keep Ama focus. The flames spread depending on how much angled Sasuke covered. If Sasuke covers the forest in about 180 degree of coverage, it will only spread the position it covered. But again I doubt the distance is going to make Ama extent too much since the size of Ama goes by the size of the target
Sasuke shouldn't need to track raikage with ama, one ama would still close off an area. Basically what I'm saying is, raikage dodging ama would lead to a worse scenario for him since ama spreads.
 

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Sasuke shouldn't need to track raikage with ama, one ama would still close off an area. Basically what I'm saying is, raikage dodging ama would lead to a worse scenario for him since ama spreads.
*Raikage learns jump*

Closing off an area isnt going to bother Raikage, as he isn't going to need to go back.
 

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We all know amaterasu burns faster if the user is focusing on a target(there are many examples of an entire body being engulfed, and the frogs stomach)

Also, stop using the forest as cover for the raikage. Sasuke can see through the trees and watch his chakra,

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sasuke clears the area around himself in an instant.

amaterasu burns the third to the ground
 

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lol didnt see that amaterasu thread again bro, the ones who counter it or you havent made it??
anyways your post was interesting so lemme give my two scents one by one.


on what notion is amaterasu laughed at?? it completely burned through toads stomach, the hachibi was lit in flames and was getting roasted, nagatos dog summons was oneshotted etc. 3rd raikage is obv more durable than those examples but that does not mean he can take an amaterasu and still fight efficiently, its a bit ridiculous to think so. the heat of amaterasu was enough for kabutos cave to return to its shape. amaterasu burns faster when the user focuses on a target i think thats been made logical considering the examples i gave. if sasuke catches the 3rd in it he is not laughing it off as it would be focused, even if it doesnt burn him then fighting sasuke as well as being in pain from is going to prove a difficult especially as sasuke can use enton and spread it all over him and the 3rd has no way to get it out of his body. it only hit ays arm not his whole body and he had to cut it off. a hit from ama and the 3rds chances of victory slims down. he has no chance of fighting sasuke in that condition.


sasuke had no problems with v1 ay. he clearly went head to head with him, was able to . that shows that sasuke didnt have issues with him. if ay was so overwhelming for him then sasuke shouldnt have been able to do that. also if juugo who clearly had no problems reacting to him, why should that be different for sasuke who is faster and has better reactions than juugo? his v1 speed was not a bother to any of the taka crew. in your scan they had used genjutsu to try and fool sasuke and co, sasuke realized it but they had already gotten close. if they didnt try genjutsu first sasuke would obviously have tracked them. by your logic sasuke darui can bliz sasuke right?
now with that being said the 3rd is not as fast as hes son so sasuke would have zero issues keeping up or reaction to him. if dodai could then sasuke shouldnt fare worse.


if he could evade sasukes line of sight sure.


clearly fighting without eye contact is not as easy as people make it seem. you have no proof madara even attempted genjutsu against the kages(prior to ay). what i saw was him using soosanos physical attack to try and pound them. if the 3rd comes close genjutsu is a factor, if not sasuke can attempt amaterasu. you contradict your post, you said the way for the 3rd to counter ama is when sasukes eye bleeed which gives off the signal but if he doesnt make eye contact due to genjutsu then how would he know when sasuke attempts ama? sasuke can easilhy used that to catch him off guard. dont underestimates amaterasu speed as . it would be difficult for the sandaime to fight sasuke without making eye contact as the latter as amaterasu in his locker.



it can go either way imo.
What's good bro? But enough with the small talk, lets get started.

I actually forgot because I been Busy with work and school. I will get to that (make a video, it takes a bit longer) when I have free time to spare.

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Aye literally no disputing fought with the flames on his arm!

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Sasuke was literally no disputing able to move and activate Chidori spear, then use Oral rebirth! That my friend is moving and being able to still do things while its covering your entire body.

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And I guess we're just going to sit back and act like the Samurai wasn't completely covered and on the ground, but still was able to move and stand up while the flames were on him. And when removed he was perfectly safe and unharmed???? There is nothing to discuss pertaining the thought of the 3rd being able to keep fighting with the flames 'IF HE IS HIT!'



Next; sasuke and aye didn't use motion/blitz Speed in that Chidori-elbow confrontation. It was simply a standard Aye and a standard Sasuke using two jutsu's hoping to best one another. How about I show the fact Sasuke didn't react cannonly to Aye "V1" blitz?

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As you can see he didn't even know they were there or even moved. This is cannon btw and he was still in the same position about to be hit. And yes Dairu can out speed or match sauske in speed no problem! That's not even up for discussion! And again you didn't read carefully what happened; after the blitz taka saved sasuke from their striking speed no blitzing speed. If they were able to stop the blitz, it wouldn't have been a blitz to begin with because the cloud would have been intercepted before they even reached sasuke. FACT! Dodai didn't react to a blitz, Dodai reacted to Kabuto stopping the blitz to kill them so he can to knocking out blow to keep naruto alive. Him blitzing leaves Blurs just like when one of the raikages and the other ! As in they don't stop at all with the momentum forcing them to keep forward through the opponents or stop afterwards or .

You need to learn the difference between striking speed and Running speed! But that's a different topic for another day. Matter a fact I think i made a thread about it in the past, i might look it up for ya. haha


Why wouldn't He attempt Genjutsu till he literally forced one? That's like saying if my main weapon of choice is a gun (sharingan visual) but I use a rock the entire day even though i should be shooting every chance i get a clear shot (eye to eye genjutsu from a ems user that is the best uchiha ever)!!! Do you not here your self????????????????

And no! Genjutsu has to be eye to eye contact to even worth being mentioned as a factor! Are you saying sasuke doesn't need direct eye contact for visual genjutsu?????????

And you don't have to look directly into their eyes to know it is bleeding. I can look at your cheeks and see blood, look at your nose, look at your entire face with out focusing and making direct eye contact. What are you saying????? any normal human can do this, I can look at an person's face and not know what Color is there eyes because I didn't focus or make direct eye to eye contact. Not rocket science.

And lastly you bring up th edanzo being caught when he was in mid air and couldn't run or even replicate anything the Raikages do. What is your point? Even Naruto was able to catch the 3rd when he was . What is your point?
 

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Yea you don't read the manga.. Sasuke was literally starring and trying to connect a basic sharigan genjutsu with Aye looking him dead in the eyes and Noted "Your sharingan is no match for me". Why would Sauke try genjutsu when his level of genjutsu wasn't working? Or better yet he couldm't get a clear direct eye to eye contact during the rest of the fight? Common sense isn't your thing huh?
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And you also have no proof that Sasuke was attempting to use genjutsu on Ay.
 
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