MS Obito in Madara's place against Hashirama

[AGoodBoy]

If anyone after all the facts posted in this thread thinks; Hashirama can overpower Kamui by bruteforce, he can react fast enough to escape being sucked into Kamui dimension, Hashirama will live after Izanagi and Kamui combination, they need to seek professional help.

"Facts" it's all assumptions around kamui to try help obito's argument.

Has anyone debunked bringer of darkness or the fact that has hi can sprout wood from his body? The brief analysis everyone's made about kamui is enough to wait last minute to plunge Mokuton spears through obito. He won't see the spring out of hashi's body in time to even react.
Kyuubi is a moot point, easily disabled.

 

[Sensational]

"Facts" it's all assumptions around kamui to try help obito's argument.

Has anyone debunked bringer of darkness or the fact that has hi can sprout wood from his body? The brief analysis everyone's made about kamui is enough to wait last minute to plunge Mokuton spears through obito. He won't see the spring out of hashi's body in time to even react.
Kyuubi is a moot point, easily disabled.

He could suck up the wood he spits out his body and intern suck hashi up at the same time as its attached to him

Bringer of darkness is countered can be countered by braking the genjutsu that or simply warp out of it

 

[7Zero]

"Facts" it's all assumptions around kamui to try help obito's argument.

Has anyone debunked bringer of darkness or the fact that has hi can sprout wood from his body? The brief analysis everyone's made about kamui is enough to wait last minute to plunge Mokuton spears through obito. He won't see the spring out of hashi's body in time to even react.
Kyuubi is a moot point, easily disabled.

Show me the manga scan where Hashirama can use Bringer of Darkness, I requested this earlier and recieved no answer.
How is mokuton spears going to help him in the face of this:

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The Kyuubi is almost a burden for Obito.

He could suck up the wood he spits out his body and intern suck hashi up at the same time as its attached to him

And with that the debate is finished.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Show me the manga scan where Hashirama can use Bringer of Darkness, I requested this earlier and recieved no answer.
How is mokuton spears going to help him in the face of this:

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The Kyuubi is almost a burden for Obito.



And with that the debate is finished.

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A situation like that = dead obi to. Not even hard to pull off for hashi. He'd already know of kamui from the start from obito moving through his mokuton. Its mangafqct that a lot of ppl have figured out that he becomes solid to attack. He isn't going to expect spikes popping from hashi. He isn't fighting in darkness. He isn't winning against mokuton feints.

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Minato blew off his arm
Konan blew off his arm
Fu/torune made him lose his arm
I'm surprised he still has his arm in the war.

Every single fight this kid has been in led to him being hurt. His first fight was against a rock and he lost. This kid is too overrated And too many excuses by his fans.

"He can warp at any position in his world" no. Manga fact is that his world parallels nv. He warps in a place in relation to his location in Nv. From there he can jump back to any position in nv

"He can warp away from pollen" when that's refuted "hashi cells will make him immune"

Obi to fans are the most biased and make up the most shit, I'm never responding to an obito/kakashi(kamui) thread again. Everyone refutes ama 1 shot in vs thread, but straddle kamui 1 shot.


Oh, and manga proof that genjutsu affects has hi cause madara apparently has tsukuyomi but yet he didn't use it on hashi.

Now this debate is over. Feel free to come back and add Edo jins/gedo masu/lab of eyes(like the idiot who thinks obito will perform izanagi then an eye transplant mid fight. Obito bias to skew this fight is expected.

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[Sensational]

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A situation like that = dead obi to. Not even hard to pull off for hashi. He'd already know of kamui from the start from obito moving through his mokuton. Its mangafqct that a lot of ppl have figured out that he becomes solid to attack. He isn't going to expect spikes popping from hashi. He isn't fighting in darkness. He isn't winning against mokuton feints.

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Minato blew off his arm
Konan blew off his arm
Fu/torune made him lose his arm
I'm surprised he still has his arm in the war.

Every single fight this kid has been in led to him being hurt. His first fight was against a rock and he lost. This kid is too overrated And too many excuses by his fans.

"He can warp at any position in his world" no. Manga fact is that his world parallels nv. He warps in a place in relation to his location in Nv. From there he can jump back to any position in nv

"He can warp away from pollen" when that's refuted "hashi cells will make him immune"

Obi to fans are the most biased and make up the most shit, I'm never responding to an obito/kakashi(kamui) thread again. Everyone refutes ama 1 shot in vs thread, but straddle kamui 1 shot.


Oh, and manga proof that genjutsu affects has hi cause madara apparently has tsukuyomi but yet he didn't use it on hashi.

Now this debate is over. Feel free to come back and add Edo jins/gedo masu/lab of eyes(like the idiot who thinks obito will perform izanagi then an eye transplant mid fight. Obito bias to skew this fight is expected.

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Like I said he can just teleport out of has his range and release the genjutsu

Wow they managed to hurt him a little, because he underestimated them. You know what else happened in his fights? The person he fighting against dies,,,

You ignore the fact that obito is capable of teleportion, he doesn't have to land in the spot parrell to the real world. There's nothing stating that hashi is immune to genjutsu

also flower world can be beaten by sheer willpower. And he can just warp out of the flower world....

 

[7Zero]

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A situation like that = dead obi to. Not even hard to pull off for hashi. He'd already know of kamui from the start from obito moving through his mokuton. Its mangafqct that a lot of ppl have figured out that he becomes solid to attack. He isn't going to expect spikes popping from hashi. He isn't fighting in darkness. He isn't winning against mokuton feints.

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Minato blew off his arm
Konan blew off his arm
Fu/torune made him lose his arm
I'm surprised he still has his arm in the war.

Every single fight this kid has been in led to him being hurt. His first fight was against a rock and he lost. This kid is too overrated And too many excuses by his fans.

"He can warp at any position in his world" no. Manga fact is that his world parallels nv. He warps in a place in relation to his location in Nv. From there he can jump back to any position in nv

"He can warp away from pollen" when that's refuted "hashi cells will make him immune"

Obi to fans are the most biased and make up the most shit, I'm never responding to an obito/kakashi(kamui) thread again. Everyone refutes ama 1 shot in vs thread, but straddle kamui 1 shot.


Oh, and manga proof that genjutsu affects has hi cause madara apparently has tsukuyomi but yet he didn't use it on hashi.

Now this debate is over. Feel free to come back and add Edo jins/gedo masu/lab of eyes(like the idiot who thinks obito will perform izanagi then an eye transplant mid fight. Obito bias to skew this fight is expected.

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Obito can easily get out of Bringer of Darkness, or wrap out of it. Overall, it seems to be a second rate technique compared to the likes of Tsukuyomi, nevermind the calibre of genjutsu Obito is capable of using; said to be powerful enough to control a perfect jinjuriki, a feat that is unheard of. The rest of your reply is desperate, go to sleep and try again in the morning.

 

[the dark king]

i voted hashirama but i was wrong. cant obito just teleport behind hashirama and warp his head off at the beginning of the battle? if hashirama catches and throws a tailed beast bomb back at obito cant obito make it appear directly above hashirama? obito cannot recognize hashi's clones because he's not madara but i don't think hashi will get the chance to do much because of the speed of kamui.

 

[7Zero]

i voted hashirama but i was wrong. cant obito just teleport behind hashirama and warp his head off at the beginning of the battle? if hashirama catches and throws a tailed beast bomb back at obito cant obito make it appear directly above hashirama? obito cannot recognize hashi's clones because he's not madara but i don't think hashi will get the chance to do much because of the speed of kamui.

My point exactly.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Obito absorbs hashi by teleporting behind him.
Then, he ejects 50% of Hashirama, and uses his fire style to roast the half corpse.
Then he eats it.

 

[Champ]

Obito he teleports on top of Shinsuusenju & warps Hashirama

 

[Sensational]

So i guess this mean obito>hashi? No further objections?

 

[yep]

Obito>Hashirama

 

[7Zero]

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[roncato]

Of course, no. Hashirama is way much stronger than Obito. Obito doesn't have a Susanoo, so it take's him i the biggest disadvantage. Btw, Hashirama's one finger affects Kyuubi to go to bed.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Let this troll thread die for christ sake

 

[7Zero]

Of course, no. Hashirama is way much stronger than Obito. Obito doesn't have a Susanoo, so it take's him i the biggest disadvantage. Btw, Hashirama's one finger affects Kyuubi to go to bed.

Fool, how does Hashirama touch him?

 

[Shinobi B]

How many idiots does it take to realize Hashi had 15+ years battling Uchiha before leaf was started.

Obito's exp fighting a Senju? 0%

Obito hasnt shown any great feats of strength nor shown any real skill....He just spams his Sharingan. **Fan boys** NOO he fought the 4th stoopid >.<!?** Uhh, no he fought his sensei.
and even then he took advantage of Kushina's pregnancy.. Had Minato not been in such a commotion or confusion about what was happening,The turn out would more then likely have been different.

He fought the fourth hokage because at that time....the 4th was still just an average jounin to which he knew all the moves of or at the least how the moves worked. Not to mention he was Obito's freaking sensei.
Hashi would look at him and Obito would probably die. *Fictional*



Obito knew nothing but what Madara told him about Hashi im sure. And was Madara able to train Obito for a Hashi battle? NO!!!!!
Madara needed viagra at the time to even get a mokuton(wood/a boner)**Point being he was old as shit**
((Yea Madara gets wood techs or w.e happens to his old ass involving mokuton...I was just making a joke and realized Old Madara has acceess to mokuton))

Case closed

Verdict? Obito couldnt match Hashi.

Sidenote Didnt Tobirama*Hashi's bro* start the whole use of S/T jutsu?
OOOH and Minato picked it up next right?
OOOH AND THEN OBITO BECAME A S/T USER
**Reads this threads posts before posting my own***
Results? = -____-

Wouldn't the fact that Tobirama used S/T jutsu mean Hashirama would be able to see signs of S/T jutsu use? And again....would that not aid him with Obito's Sharingan?
They are bros just saying.

 

[Penguin]

I believe Obito would do better than Madara, but still loose. The only problem he faces is Wood Clones.

Hashi wins 7/10 while Obito would win 3/10.

 

[AGoodBoy]

How many idiots does it take to realize Hashi had 15+ years battling Uchiha before leaf was started.

Obito's exp fighting a Senju? 0%

Obito hasnt shown any great feats of strength nor shown any real skill....He just spams his Sharingan. **Fan boys** NOO he fought the 4th stoopid >.<!?** Uhh, no he fought his sensei.
and even then he took advantage of Kushina's pregnancy.. Had Minato not been in such a commotion or confusion about what was happening,The turn out would more then likely have been different.

He fought the fourth hokage because at that time....the 4th was still just an average jounin to which he knew all the moves of or at the least how the moves worked. Not to mention he was Obito's freaking sensei.
Hashi would look at him and Obito would probably die. *Fictional*



Obito knew nothing but what Madara told him about Hashi im sure. And was Madara able to train Obito for a Hashi battle? NO!!!!!
Madara needed viagra at the time to even get a mokuton(wood/a boner)**Point being he was old as shit**
((Yea Madara gets wood techs or w.e happens to his old ass involving mokuton...I was just making a joke and realized Old Madara has acceess to mokuton))

Case closed

Verdict? Obito couldnt match Hashi.

Sidenote Didnt Tobirama*Hashi's bro* start the whole use of S/T jutsu?
OOOH and Minato picked it up next right?
OOOH AND THEN OBITO BECAME A S/T USER
**Reads this threads posts before posting my own***
Results? = -____-

Wouldn't the fact that Tobirama used S/T jutsu mean Hashirama would be able to see signs of S/T jutsu use? And again....would that not aid him with Obito's Sharingan?
They are bros just saying.

He was handed S/T from no where while other people trained for it XD

I believe Obito would do better than Madara, but still loose. The only problem he faces is Wood Clones.

Hashi wins 7/10 while Obito would win 3/10.

Anyway... Thanks you two for bumping this thread... ****. You won't win, the obito fandom don't use logic...

 

[Shinobi B]

Seriously...Perfect Izanagi would be the only thing keeping obito alive in that fight....
If what Hashi has show us in the manga was 100
What obito has shown us is 5% of that 100

Obito doesnt have full control of the Hashi cells either...Otherwise the day he held rin in his arms after being saved by Madaraa...His mokuton that pierced a crowd of ninjas would have had leaves at the least.