MS Obito in Madara's place against Hashirama

Could he defeat Hashirama?

  • Yes, Kamui is really overpowered

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  • No, Hashirama is god of shinobi after all

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Shinobi B

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He was handed S/T from no where while other people trained for it XD


Anyway... Thanks you two for bumping this thread... ****. You won't win, the obito fandom don't use logic...
WORD UP THAT HE WAS....Tobi could have been anyone...even madara resurrected....

They probably chose Obito cause kishi wanted to wait to chose who Tobi was and the waiting back fired as he had no idea who BUT Obito to be Tobi..Since he was already involved in the story..

Notice how weak the plot between the unmasked tobi(obito) and Kakashi is.
They just threw a story together based on the fact that Obito was to be tobi.
Gave Tobi a powerup after he went passed his good boy phase.

And vuala macaroni and tobi on a hot plate :p
 

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Seriously...Perfect Izanagi would be the only thing keeping obito alive in that fight....
If what Hashi has show us in the manga was 100
What obito has shown us is 5% of that 100

Obito doesnt have full control of the Hashi cells either...Otherwise the day he held rin in his arms after being saved by Madaraa...His mokuton that pierced a crowd of ninjas would have had leaves at the least.
Leaves have nothing to do with the strength of mokuton.

Obito isn't stronger than hashi in terms of power, but his abilities put him far above many people in this manga.

His taijutsu is good, has quick reflexes with kamui, etc, just because hes not "stronger" than hashi doesnt mean he cant beat him.
 

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Dude....like I said....he lacks the knowledge to beat Hashi...
Hashi since a child has beaten Uchihas. (Which Obito is)
His brother basically created Space time Jutsu. (Which Obito uses)
Plus Hashirama has been in way more violent situations then Obito has dude..

Hellooooooooooo The Clan vs Clan era of the show? Hashi was a kid in the middle of war.....Not rock village vs team kakashi type war...

OH NO FRIENDS...
He went through pre village making war.
Think about the difference...Obito's warzone was filled with refined throught the years type of ninjas where as Hashi's warzone involved ruthless ninja who sent they're sons to war and even killed they're own children for things as small as disobedience.

Bottom line.....Obito is far to in experienced to beat Hashi....
 
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Dude....like I said....he lacks the knowledge to beat Hashi...
Hashi since a child has beaten Uchihas. (Which Obito is)
His brother basically created Space time Jutsu. (Which Obito uses)
Plus Hashirama has been in way more violent situations then Obito has dude..

Hellooooooooooo The Clan vs Clan era of the show? Hashi was a kid in the middle of war.....Not rock village vs team kakashi type war...

OH NO FRIENDS...
He went through pre village making war.

Bottom line.....Obito is far to in experienced to beat Hashi....
Obito has more than enough battle experience. He fought on par with minato at the age of 14, killed most of the uchiha clan, beat yagura who was one of the few perfect jins and a kage, crapped all over danzos top guards, defeated top anbu ninja, handled gai,kakashi and naruto with ease. What more experience does he need?

Just because tobirama made a s/t justu doesnt mean he can counter obitos, since obitos was above anything minato and tobirama were able to do and hashi doesnt even have a s/t jutsu.
His experience isnt winning a battle were he cant even touch his opponent
 

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Tobi would win,hashi cant even touch him,and to those talking of experience,when has hashi faced someone like tobi?. His wood cant hit tobi,tobi would win due to intangibility and kamui,
 

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Obito has more than enough battle experience. He fought on par with minato at the age of 14,
He almost died and never touched him.
killed most of the uchiha clan,
manga just said itachi asked him for help. Never said he killed most of uchiha, that's your speculation

beat yagura who was one of the few perfect jins and a kage, crapped all over danzos top guards
Lost an arm to kill 2 fodder

, defeated top anbu ninja, handled gai,kakashi and naruto with ease. What more experience does he need?
They smacked him together. Only individually he can handle them

Just because tobirama made a s/t justu doesnt mean he can counter obitos, since obitos was above anything minato and tobirama were able to do and hashi doesnt even have a s/t jutsu.
His experience isnt winning a battle were he cant even touch his opponent
Tobi would win,hashi cant even touch him,and to those talking of experience,when has hashi faced someone like tobi?. His wood cant hit tobi,tobi would win due to intangibility and kamui,
He's Never faced anyone like hashirama. Someone who can spring an entire forest from the ground and his body. Someone who attacks and defends at the exact same time
 

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He almost died and never touched him.

manga just said itachi asked him for help. Never said he killed most of uchiha, that's your speculation


Lost an arm to kill 2 fodder


They smacked him together. Only individually he can handle them






He's Never faced anyone like hashirama. Someone who can spring an entire forest from the ground and his body. Someone who attacks and defends at the exact same time
making a forest is useless to a guy that is intangible and can teleport,obito can easily copy his wood techs,or just warp behind him,how is hashi even going to hit him?. Minato,who is a better sensor than hashirama couldnt even sense tobi until he was already behind him,hashirama isnt even a powerful sensor,nowhere near those of tobirama,whereas minato exhibits the same level as tobirama.

Tobi also has moukton too,and can rain down spikes on hashi to distractt him. Hashi cant win
 

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making a forest is useless to a guy that is intangible and can teleport,obito can easily copy his wood techs,or just warp behind him,how is hashi even going to hit him?. Minato,who is a better sensor than hashirama couldnt even sense tobi until he was already behind him,hashirama isnt even a powerful sensor,nowhere near those of tobirama,whereas minato exhibits the same level as tobirama.

Tobi also has moukton too,and can rain down spikes on hashi to distractt him. Hashi cant win
Too bad that's never happened. Too bad the only time we've seen him use mokuton was when he was out of control and hashi's cells most likely were trying to over run his body.
That copy hashi jutsu part is pure speculation. If he could have, he would long ago. He's seen yamato do wood release. Because he has the cells doesn't mean he's able to use the jutsu to hashi's degree. What makes you think he has remotely enough chakra for such a feat. The guy does nothing but kamui. Extending madara's (guy who fought for 24 hrs) feats to obito is stupid. This is what i'm talking about when I say people make up feats for obito. Not my fault the guy's only feat is kamui and grand fire ball jutsu and that's all you people have to work with... Always trying to add extra that he's never shown even though he's in a life and death war.

Making a forest is useful against a guy who has to become tangible to attack. I like how you all try to continually over look that. Because obito will only be on defence... 1 split second slip up is enough for wood to pop around from any direct, even from hashi. Obito can't look at the entire battlefield. Anyway Why am i still responding to this ****ing thread... Obito threads have gotten annoying, he's too overrated. Even make excuses for him for getting stomped by minato. "Minato wasn't that great! Obito was 14! Minato (who had to do 3 things at once) had some hidden advantage! Obito is invincible he could have..! he could have...!"

whatever you respond, go back and re-read my past posts. If you don't see the answers to your rebuttals, then read them again. Repeat the process until you find your answer.

Kamui isn't a one way ticket to stomp all territory. Fact is, obito's never even fought anyone without being hurt and the last kage he fought almost (should've - rasengan and stabbed and he was still alive.. right) killed him.

Obito isn't becoming tangible to touch hashirama when wood can pop out of anywhere. The feat he did on minato where he ported behind him and grabbed isn't working here. The second he does that and hashirama catches on, he just springs wood. Obito can't become tangible to touch him will wood is being propelled it him all over. hashi just backs away and creates a wooden clone in the chaos.

Obito can't win this fight. Stop it.

EDIT: I'll also answer an obvious response. Izanagi isn't saving him. He just gets extra chances to die again(assuming he gets the chance to make the seals for Izanagi). Because he has a chance to respawn doesn't mean he'll win. Danzo had 10 chances but still lost to a better opponent. After Izanagi dries up, he loses his sharingan. What now? He'll continue to izanagi and lose his MS too? That wouldn't make a blit of sense.

Kyuubi is also not helping. Without susano, hashirama restrains kyuubi in an instant and contract seals him (by touching kyuubi not obito - refer to 626 if you don't understand that this will work). Fact is, obito loses kyuubi as soon as he summons it.

Hashi isn't a great sensor as minato, but he was able to sense his cells in orochimaru. That shows that he has some skill at sensing at the least. Appearing behind him won't do anything considering he doesn't have to do like minato and waste time turning. He just pops wood from the ground near his legs and his back and moves away while obito is being riddled with wood. Obito can't touch him will there's trees growing through him because obito can't become tangible.
 
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He almost died and never touched him.

manga just said itachi asked him for help. Never said he killed most of uchiha, that's your speculation


Lost an arm to kill 2 fodder


They smacked him together. Only individually he can handle them






He's Never faced anyone like hashirama. Someone who can spring an entire forest from the ground and his body. Someone who attacks and defends at the exact same time
That still doesnt take away from the fact that helped kill people in the uchiha clan, if itachi asked him for helped that means he couldn't handle the job alone. Im speculating because Obito is the one with a man cave full of sharingans.

He touched minato, he admitted himself he didnt react fast enough and the next chance he got he would simply absorb faster. Minato knew he wouldnt be able to face obito in a battle that lasted long so he tried to end it in one move. But he didnt as obito got away and minato died as a result of obitos actions.

Considering those guys were named i could hardly consider them fodder, with the abilities they had they could give any ninja trouble. How do you propose beating a guy that can make his entire body a death trap while handling someone trying to snatch your body at the same time, he had no choice but to lose an arm and guess what those 2 still died. Injurys don't matter, hashirama was injured in his battle with madara yet its still accepted that hashirama>>>>>>Madara.

They did not smack him together, only until kakashi figured out that there eyes were linked did they gain any type of advantage over him, and he still handled himself fairly well by not getting himself killed, against arguably the strongest ninja in konoha.

I dont know why you crossed out my s/t jutsu thing when minato himself stated it.
Hashirama has never faced anyone that can phase through any substance, it the only type of def. that works against obito has proven to be ones that cause him damage upon sucking something in, Deadly bugs, explosions. Yes he can spring out wood from any part of his body but that doesnt give him any advantage as obito could literally walk through it hiding isnt an option.
Hashiramas best bet is to try and cause explosive damage and attack obito non stop. So far i have seen nothing that suggests that hashirama could even touch obito without causing himself serious harm.
 

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Dude....Obito's jutsu has a time on it doesn't it? Didn't Kakashi and Naruto just discover this?

Thus meaning....Forest = useless
Obito uses his jutsu then deactivates it....

Hashi makes a branch sprouts between Obito's spine as fast as Hashi's last strike struck down Madara
 

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Dude....Obito's jutsu has a time on it doesn't it? Didn't Kakashi and Naruto just discover this?

Thus meaning....Forest = useless
Obito uses his jutsu then deactivates it....

Hashi makes a branch sprouts between Obito's spine as fast as Hashi's last strike struck down Madara
Can only be used 5 minutes at a time however the person has to attack for the entire 5 minutes leaving no room for obito to become tangible.
Obito's reaction feats suggest that would never happen and if he were to ever have that happen would use izangai.
 

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I think Obito would have a serious problem fighting Hashirama..if he tried to go intangible Hashi can try to bind a body part with the roots from underground..it be a hell of a battle
 

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madara>obito
hashi>madara>obito
at the same time we 100% know all of hashi powers and sage mode techs. Obito has basically gave all his moves to us so meh
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Obito's S/T technique is really what decides the battle. Also, lets not forget that Obito uses Wood Release as well...maybe not as on such a grand scale, but he certainly knows how the Wood style works and most of its advantages and disadvantages.


Obito just has to get close...assuming that Harashima doesn't guess what Obito is trying to do to him and simply use wood release to create a massive tower to keep Obito far away.
 

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Well, to be fair, Konan did spend a lot of time around him...And you don't know that hashirama would be able to figure it out.. when has he shown great analytical abilities during battle? We really haven't seen him fight enough to know...Then, we don't know how many clones Hashirama can make.
Naruto's massive ShadowClone jutsu is originally Hashirama's,they are the only shinobi that can perform that jutsu........
 
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