Most underrated 3-man trio

[Draphsin]

And you suppose I can take you seriously?

If you disagree then disagree, if your here trying to be cool or something, then no point being on the thread, unless your gonna talk about it.

I dont expect you to take me (or anyone logical) seriously, in fact I believe this entire thread to be a troll, & I'm not acting cool I'm merely sharing my opinion on what I think of yours. U_U

 

[KingHashirama]

Explain the Bold please. Because to my understanding Im using the manga and common sense to support my reasoning.Zzz

Because Manga reasoning states each fighter must go attack each other face to face? am right? hmm

Or is it the same manga reasoning that says someone with 50 years of experience fighting all kinds of opponents and having knowledge of poisons and so on, and skilled in tactics would not go with a good tactic against someone strong?

As I said in my previous post, I do not see the point in making a VS about this, when it is not about it. Itachi has his 5 Moves of doom, that make him op. While the Sanin are a whole different thing.

I dont expect you to take me seriously, in fact I believe this entire thread to be a troll, & I'm not acting cool I'm merely sharing my opinion on what I think of yours. U_U

Then read the post and respond accordingly.

Did you really put Gaara and Onoki below the Sannin (Unless Orochimaru's Edo Tensei is restricted)?

Surely you jest, you call others biased and "fanboy"s, when it's quite the contrary...

Gaara> Tsunade no diff
Gaara> Jiraiya med-high diff
Gaara> Orochimaru low-med diff unless Edo Tensei is used.

And that's just Gaara, not to mention every other Akatsuki member you underestimated.

Now i'll wait where Gaara can keep up in a Taijutsu battle...... Or where he can out manvuer their tactics. Or where he shows immunity to poison.

Nice that mention "fanboy" to me , and I haven't denied it, I'm a Naruto fanboy till the day i die.. though its better then being a fanboy in denial.

Now I'm glad you believe that because you should..... but sadly, the manga disagrees on most of them.

 

[Fodder#4]

Tsukuyomi pretty much ends any Sannin.

 

[Crossroads]

Tsukuyomi pretty much ends any Sannin.

KingHashirama: Tsunade breaks out because of her amazing chakra control.

Yeah I'm about to go all into this.

Tsunade loses to Sasori due to poison, Iron Sand, 100 puppets.

Jiraiya beats Sasori med-high diff, due to SM and summonings.

I honestly don't see Orochimaru winning this, Sasori> Oro med. difficulty at the most.

 

[Fodder#4]

KingHashirama: Tsunade breaks out because of her amazing chakra control.

Meh; If she had the sharingan or there was solid evidence suggesting that it was some.. Hyperbole on Itachi's[Or was it Zetsu..?]part when explaining the jutsu, perhaps. Until I see such a thing... Nah.

 

[Bogard]

Tsukuyomi pretty much ends any Sannin.

Not while fighting a long range opponent like Jiraya when tsukuyomi is a close range genjutsu technique, like it can also end up to be a clone. In SM where he constantly receive outside chakra from his partners(Pa and Ma), it's even more useless

 

[KingHashirama]

Meh; If she had the sharingan or there was solid evidence suggesting that it was some.. Hyperbole on Itachi's[Or was it Zetsu..?]part when explaining the jutsu, perhaps. Until I see such a thing... Nah.

Sharingan provides a easier manipulation of chakra to the brain, as Tobirama explained it, the eyes are connected the chakra of the brain.

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Now where does genjutsu manipulation of the senses occur? The brain. Hence why it is easier for the Uchiha to break out of the genjutsu with their sharingans.

 

[-Punk-]

Nagato/Konan/Yahiko could solo them .

 

[Fodder#4]

Sharingan provides a easier manipulation of chakra to the brain, as Tobirama explained it, the eyes are connected the chakra of the brain.

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Now where does genjutsu manipulation of the senses occur? The brain. Hence why it is easier for the Uchiha to break out of the genjutsu with their sharingans.

Mhm, Mhm. Good information thus far. Can you expand on how Tsunade this further allows Tsunade to break out of Tsukuyomi..?

Not while fighting a long range opponent like Jiraya when tsukuyomi is a close range genjutsu technique, like it can also end up to be a clone. In SM where he constantly receive outside chakra from his partners(Pa and Ma), it's even more useless

I should know better then to pick a fight with you regarding Jiraiya; I did see that debate you and Prince Charles had a while back.

But; Yes, Tsyukuomi is a close, at most and pushing it mid ranged jutsu. But the fact is if Jiraiya were to come close to use a jutsu to take down Itachi, rasengan perhaps, the odds of him being hit are immense.

While regular genjutsu would be useless, we're both aware that Tsukuyomi is a genjutsu that doesn't abide to regular rules. It won't be broken by the Senjutsu chakra being filtered into Jiraiya, and it has the potential to cause trauma that would disable Jiraiya.

And, with how well it/the casting time is..Mere moments. Not impossible to imagine that Itachi could then evade an oncoming assault from either the toads or Jiraiya. It's a close match, but I see Itachi winning it.

 

[KingHashirama]

Nagato/Konan/Yahiko could solo them .

only the underlined one stands an actual chance, others are fodders.

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Mhm, Mhm. Good information thus far. Can you expand on how Tsunade this further allows Tsunade to break out of Tsukuyomi..?

Simply because she has reached the pinnacle of chakra control, which is the yin seal...

In the same manner, she can manipulate the chakra flow of the brain.

 

[Crossroads]

Now i'll wait where Gaara can keep up in a Taijutsu battle...... Or where he can out manvuer their tactics. Or where he shows immunity to poison.

Nice that mention "fanboy" to me , and I haven't denied it, I'm a Naruto fanboy till the day i die.. though its better then being a fanboy in denial.

Now I'm glad you believe that because you should..... but sadly, the manga disagrees on most of them.

Umm, didn't know Gaara had to fight Taijutsu users in close combat, wait... he doesn't. Why? Gaara can fly. He'll solo Tsunade from the air.. she's shown absolutely no long ranged Jutsu.. Tsunade will be forced to summon Katsuyu.. but too bad Katsuyu might as well be a non-factor.

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Not in the desert? Gaara gives no shits:

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Manga disagrees? Okay. Tell me when Tsunade has won a fight, then I'll admit Gaara's inferiority.

Now I'm sure I'm going to get back some irrelevant response such as "Tsunade's a Senju.. Katsuyu's acid GG... Tsunade is the strongest Gokage..." and more BS.

 

[Prince Charles]

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The frog genjutsu, Jiraya won't need to come close to Itachi. Infact it's Itachi the one who will need to stop the jutsu before the end of the song since it's a long range technique that covers a wide area, so Jiraya can do everything he can to go away meanwhile and Itachi would be the one affected if he doesn't manage to stop him in time.

And what is his counter to Yomi Numa?

Oh wow Thats my bad, Confused the two because of their name but frog song is of no factor here to be honest, first off that's assuming jiraiya will be capable of summoning Ma and Pa in time. Anyway's regarding frog song as noted Ma and Pa first form

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Itachi having a very high perspective of his surrounding should be capable of noticing this and respond with a offensive counter to them both ending in their deaths. Also Itachi being temporarily paralyzed should not him from performing Eye doujutsu techs since they require no hand movement via hand seal

Your analysis on the frog genjutsu is arguable.

Depending on the location, lets say a outside place, the song will quickly give away their position noted by

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Taking into factor of all that time, Itachi can easily end this with a amaterasu of some sort or yaska magatama's if needed, anything that will reach them and cause a deadly blow. And regarding Yomi Numa, I see no reason why he can't use his sussano arm length and simply extend it until it grips on to a solid structure or the surface and bring his way back up possibly.

 

[KingHashirama]

Umm, didn't know Gaara had to fight Taijutsu users in close combat, wait... he doesn't. Why? Gaara can fly. He'll solo Tsunade from the air.. she's shown absolutely no long ranged Jutsu.. Tsunade will be forced to summon Katsuyu.. but too bad Katsuyu might as well be a non-factor.

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Not in the desert? Gaara gives no shits:

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Manga disagrees? Okay. Tell me when Tsunade has won a fight, then I'll admit Gaara's inferiority.

Now I'm sure I'm going to get back some irrelevant response such as "Tsunade's a Senju.. Katsuyu's acid GG... Tsunade is the strongest Gokage..." and more BS.

"he'll solo Tsunade from air".....what is stopping Tsunade from soloing him before he gets in the air?

You stated a typical scenario, where she has to let the fight go up there, but haven't shown what is stopping her blitz? what is stopping her to bring poison to the battlefield?

 

[FemmeFatale]

Who underrates them?
Few can beat them really. Hanzo lucked up.
Once the Sannin split they became powerful.

 

[Crossroads]

"he'll solo Tsunade from air".....what is stopping Tsunade from soloing him before he gets in the air?

You stated a typical scenario, where she has to let the fight go up there, but haven't shown what is stopping her blitz? what is stopping her to bring poison to the battlefield?

You speak as if Tsunade has such speed to overwhelm Gaara? Lmao.

Show me scans of Tsunade's "superior" speed. And how would she get any poision on Gaara? Absolute defense... Sand cloak... not to mention...

Tsunade can't touch him.

 

[Prince Charles]

Bogard still spouting that bull shit about tysukuyomi being a close range technique when the Manga disagree's when Sasuke put Deidara in a shariga visual genjutsu mid-long range at best. All that is required is eye contact U_U which I might add jiraiya foolishly made eye contact with itachi back in part 1, you would think a man of his experience and caliber would know better then to look into the sharigan eyes, especially someone like Itachi.

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Useless piece of trash, bogard, continue to fabricate the manga to make your petty arguments better please.

"he'll solo Tsunade from air".....what is stopping Tsunade from soloing him before he gets in the air?

You stated a typical scenario, where she has to let the fight go up there, but haven't shown what is stopping her blitz? what is stopping her to bring poison to the battlefield?

Lmao I just can't anymore.. I just cant.

 

[KingHashirama]

You speak as if Tsunade has such speed to overwhelm Gaara? Lmao.

Show me scans of Tsunade's "superior" speed. And how would she get any poision on Gaara? Absolute defense... Sand cloak... not to mention...

Tsunade can't touch him.

As Orochimaru and Kabuto and Madara about her speed.

Absolute defense good good... needed? no no....
Her base speed might not be that flashy, however if she chooses to she can increase her speed to a point where you wouldn't notice her blitzing at you.

Bogard still spouting that bull shit about tysukuyomi being a close range technique when the Manga disagree's when Sasuke put Deidara in a shariga visual genjutsu mid-long range at best. All that is required is eye contact U_U which I might add jiraiya foolishly made eye contact with itachi back in part 1, you would think a man of his experience and caliber would know better then to look into the sharigan eyes, especially someone like Itachi.

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Useless piece of trash, bogard, continue to fabricate the manga to make your petty arguments better please.




Lmao I just can't anymore.. I just cant.

Lmao, I'd take you a for an idiot, if you tried to =D.

 

[Crossroads]

As Orochimaru and Kabuto and Madara about her speed.

Absolute defense good good... needed? no no....
Her base speed might not be that flashy, however if she chooses to she can increase her speed to a point where you wouldn't notice her blitzing at you.

Manga scans, provide them of such superior speed.

(Please don't regurgitate another empty and pitiful excuse of a response without Manga proof.)

 

[Prince Charles]

Lmao, I'd take you a for an idiot, if you tried to =D.

Explain? As I clearly just provided a manga scan supporting my claim and I can easily back up my sharigan visual range distance claim if you want me too as well?

 

[KingHashirama]

Manga scans, provide them of such superior speed.

(Please don't regurgitate another empty and pitiful excuse as a response without Manga proof.

-sigh-, so you have been talkin crap, without even researching on the character? Pathetic.....

I never stated Gaara won't win in a fight if he was in a desert.... but point of the thread was about overall power, in which Gaara is not on their level.

Tsunade's starting point: all the way on that tree.....

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Finishing point: Madara's chest....and Madara was trying to go back.

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I'll be happy to post the orochimaru and Kabuto scans also if you need em.. but i would expect you to know that fight..

Explain? As I clearly just provided a manga scan supporting my claim and I can easily back up my sharigan visual range distance claim if you want me too as well?

we never debated about that... And you'd been a idiot if you had tried to say or make a excuse to go around the questions i had presented you with.