Most underrated 3-man trio

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WARNING: THIS THREAD WILL ENRAGE THE AKATSUKI AND OTHER FANBOYS IF READ WITH HATRED AND FANBOYISM. SO SUGGESTION IS TO READ WITH NEUTRALITY.


Though a powerful trio... these guys get underrated for what they are actually worth. This trio is that of the Sanin. Now most of you will come and post stuff like "tf they ain't underrated"... And I will simply ask you, then why are they put under most of the akatsuki member? The answer to this would be because of fanboyism.

For example, the likes of Sasori, Kakuzu, Hidan, Kisame, Itachi, Kakashi, Darui, Onoki, Gaara, and some others probably, are most of the times put above the Sanin. Now most of this is due to the Sannin having a weaker fanbase then most of the akatsuki members and other characters.

Some of the opponents that are put against them:

Itachi:

Most people will like to say Itachi is superior to the Sannin, simply because of Orochimaru. Now why is that? Orochimaru's weakness is Genjutsu.....is it for the others? no. Now there will be stupid questions like "how does Tsunade/Jiraiya avoid Amaterasu" and so on... the problem with that is in a fight nothing is like that at all. Fighting requires a scenario, scenario is dependent on the situation. Most of us Fans have this stupid conception in our mind that it is simply a matter of counter and so on... however that is false, the wind , the temperature , the place, and so on are all deciders of the battle.

Anywho in terms of overall prowess Itachi is inferior to the 3 Sanin, sure he has his 5 moves of doom, like John Cena and Hulk Hogan.. but it doesn't mean hes stronger.

Counter to genjutsu according to Jiraiya, the person Itachi said who was superior to him.. is chakra control. There are fanboys who believe Jiraiya has no knowledge... I would like to tell them 1 simple thing, Jiraiya > Itachi in regards to knowledge. In fact Itachi has not denied it, when Naruto tried to do this method, Itachi told him he was still weak.... Orochimaru as far as we know has the worst chakra manipulation of the Sanin...

So again, Sannin > Itachi, in regards to power and prowess.. his 2.5 Stamina doesn't cut it compared to their monster staminas.. if fans wanna say its not that bad.. then the answer is simple.. the Sanins is still double that of Itachi's.



Kisame:
I'm sorry but he really has nothing on the Sanin.... He is a strong shinobi in regards to his own. But compared to the Sannin no. Tsunade and Jiraiya are bad matches for him since the over power him in regards to his fighting style, which is straight forward. And then Orochimaru the trickster is well..something else lol.

Not to mention, the Sanin are actually well skilled all around. And are all geniuses.

Sasori:
Really? Sasori? I'm sorry but Sasori is not even on their level. The guy simply doesn't have anything that overpowers them. Or makes him stronger then them.

(I'll wait for Sasori fans to rage)


Deidara:


His bombs are a bit overrated. People say if he does this and that , they won't be able to do anything.. the problem is that will be allowed to.. Which is a no. On top of that his ninja skills aren't on their level.

Hidan:

He is too one sided.. he is a taijutsu user which is good for him.. but the problem is all the sanin are expert in ninjutsu taijutsu, and some in genjutsu.


Kakashi/Darui:

They are strong no doubt... but again, they don't have the prowess. For example, Kakashi isn't on Sanin level regards to his stamina and so. Darui well uh he is basically Kakashi with OP lightening and lesser quickness.


Gaara and Onoki:

Yes they are Kage level shinobi, however they are not in the legendary status. For example, Onoki fanbase loves to overrate his jinton, when it hasn't killed anyone in the manga..What are onoki's skills besides Jinton and flying? Is he any good in Taijutsu combat?

Gaara much like Onoki is also too 1 sided, he relies on his sand too much. Sure hes nearly OP with his sand and can take on most of the Akatsuki, but again he misses things like Taijutsu... genjutsu ability to break it or so...
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Understanding

What I am judging them on is not a 1 vs 1.. but OVERALL as prowess.

-experience
-tactics
-battles
-skilled in all categories
-knowledge
-chakra
-stamina
-handling of situations


Also, not to mention that the danger Sannin possess compared to the people mentioned. I mean they are superior to some of the people i mentioned just with their base forms. So before you go off at me, understand this. If you disagree and want to discuss feel free to. If your gonna troll and insult, then your pathetically wasting your time, for someone who has no care.



PS: excuse the misspell of "SANNIN"


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Well they are the lengedary trio.....
 

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If were talking about 1 vs 1, most of the akatsuki beat the sannin

Itachi> Tsunade low-mid diff.
Itachi>jiraiya med-high diff ( he will be more of a challenge than tsunade )
As for orochimaru he has Edo tensei now so obviously he shit stomps Itachi but without ET, it's debatable

But I do agree as a 3 man team they overlooked sometimes
 

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If were talking about 1 vs 1, most of the akatsuki beat the sannin

Itachi> Tsunade low-mid diff.
Itachi>jiraiya med-high diff ( he will be more of a challenge than tsunade )
As for orochimaru he has Edo tensei now so obviously he shit stomps Itachi but without ET, it's debatable

And I highly disagree.

PS: thought you were kidgamer. lol.

Itachi is the pretty much the only one who has a good chance of beating them in 1 vs 1 out of the ones i mentioned. Others.... not so much.
 

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The sannin sucks at this time U_U Nagato soloes all of them. Mid diff.
 

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I agree.
even though itachi and kisame admitted that they BOTH can't win against jman alone.
people are still saying such stupid things like itachi alone > jman!!
 
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And I highly disagree.

PS: thought you were kidgamer. lol.

Haha I like his avatar xd

OT: I can't understand how you disagree, Convince me right now how tsunade beats Itachi and I will give you my title of Turnt up king.

I agree.
even though itachi and kisame admitted that theu BOTH can't win against jman alone.
people are still saying such stupid things like itachi alone > jman!!

Please log off, everybody knows Itachi was a undercover agent for the leaf why start up a fight with jiraiya? Smh not too mention it's clearly stated that Itachi is a pacifist. Do the math scrub.
 

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The sannin sucks at this time U_U Nagato soloes all of them. Mid diff.

Same Nagato who beat Jiraiya, because of 1 simple secret ? Or the Jiraiya who was trying to get information?

Haha I like his avatar xd

OT: I can't understand how you disagree, Convince me right now how tsunade beats Itachi and I will give you my title of Turnt up king.
I'm not good with Scenarios soo... yea but I guess i'll give it a try.

Tsukuyomi can be made useless due to the chakra control of Tsunade. Though you may say 1 second is enough to do the damage, I would disagree due to Kakashi and also, because it is dependent on the person who is getting controlled. If Tsukuyomi is countered... Itachi will give up on it. On top of that , using the surrounding and hide and go tactics, can also be Itachi's downfall.

If it were to come to close combat, Tsunade takes it.

As I said I can't say it with a Scenario, but simply give counters. Hope you understand what i'm saying.....
 
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Same Nagato who beat Jiraiya, because of 1 simple secret ? Or the Jiraiya who was trying to get information?

Give the sannin all the information about Nagato's rinnegan techniques and he still win this fight.

Itachi can 1 vs 1 Tsunade and Jiraiya. Orochimaru has ET.

Kisame is a tough cookie.
 

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Please log off, everybody knows Itachi was a undercover agent for the leaf why start up a fight with jiraiya? Smh not too mention it's clearly stated that Itachi is a pacifist. Do the math scrub.
:leaf::leaf::leaf:

prove that from the MANGA, or it's just bullshiting without any proof!

and as for what, just like when he attacked Kurnai and tried to kill her? Or when he attacked kakashi?
or when he stood in their faces so the Akatsuki can take Gaara's tailed beast?

or we can say Jman IS also a spy, so he let itachi run away with Kisame because he did not want to kill itachi! =D

Edit: being an ally does not have anything with power.
Kakashi is by Naruto's side, but he said that Naruto is stronger than him, so what?
 

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Give the sannin all the information about Nagato's rinnegan techniques and he still win this fight.

Itachi can 1 vs 1 Tsunade and Jiraiya. Orochimaru has ET.

Kisame is a tough cookie.

Nagato solos? Though I disagree since Nagato believes Jiraiya with info solos =]. If your talking about this made up fanboy "healthy Nagato"... then it is still Jiraiya and the Sanins win.

Haha I like his avatar xd

OT: I can't understand how you disagree, Convince me right now how tsunade beats Itachi and I will give you my title of Turnt up king.



Please log off, everybody knows Itachi was a undercover agent for the leaf why start up a fight with jiraiya? Smh not too mention it's clearly stated that Itachi is a pacifist. Do the math scrub.
See here is the defensive thing, did Itachi have to say it to stop the fight? no.... And Itachi could've left the leaf without damaging Kakashi.... on top of that if it weren't for Jiraiya was Itachi not going to Kidnap Naruto?

Itachi was undercover ... sure but who did contact?

Itachi was a loyal shinobi to the Akatsuki and Konoha.
 

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i think jiraiya is the strongest of all the the sannin and most of the akatsuki could manage to defeat tsunade if not give her a good fight remember she a medical nin when they were in the trio but as for pro and jiraiya they are pretty strong but not invincible
 

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You mentioned my boi; Kisame here... He beats Tsunade at a low difficulty and Jiraiya can be beat at a high difficulty; But Jiraiya can be debated.

While strong, Orochimaru [By feats and Edo tensei restricted] Loses mid to high difficulty. As a trilogy? I don't see anyone but possibly Itachi, Pein, or Obito beating them within the Akatsuki
 

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i think jiraiya is the strongest of all the the sannin and most of the akatsuki could manage to defeat tsunade if not give her a good fight remember she a medical nin when they were in the trio but as for pro and jiraiya they are pretty strong but not invincible

highly false, she is also the best hand to hand combatant. She is also a bloody senju, she is also the person who can create poisons to take out most of the ninja on the list..... your view of tsunade is a typical view of someone who hasn't read up on her.

You mentioned my boi; Kisame here... He beats Tsunade at a low difficulty and Jiraiya can be beat at a high difficulty; But Jiraiya can be debated.

While strong, Orochimaru [By feats and Edo tensei restricted] Loses mid to high difficulty. As a trilogy? I don't see anyone but possibly Itachi, Pein, or Obito beating them within the Akatsuki
Tsunade punches him to hell.....Screws up his nerve system, rips his heart out..... and so on. She also tanks every water jutsu he has...

Kisame has nothing on Jiraiya until he enters the dome and brings up his fusion, however, that is if he is allowed to.

the people you mentioned will get smashed on if they were put in a 3 vs 1 with the current Sanin....

Orochimaru hasn't shown much, hence why i'm only going off the fact from what hes shown.. which is still superior to Kisame.....

your saying Kisame wins because he has OP techs... but you don't remember that he has to be able to use them...
 
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Hidan doesn't need ninjutsu or genjutsu. I mean who needs it when you can't be killed. Hidan was trolled massively in this series.
 

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You mentioned my boi; Kisame here... He beats Tsunade at a low difficulty and Jiraiya can be beat at a high difficulty; But Jiraiya can be debated.
No, Kisame is not near Jman's level as he said


Originally Posted by Ch144, p8
Kisame:
ใ€Œใ‚ขใƒŠใ‚ฟใชใ‚‰ใฉใ†ใซใ‹ใ“ใ†ใซใ‹ใ‚„ใ‚Œใ‚‹็›ธๆ‰‹ใงใ‚‚็งใ˜ใ‚ƒใ‚ ๅˆ†ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ‚ˆโ€ฆใ€
ใ€Œๆฌกๅ…ƒใŒ้•ใ†ใ€
"You might be able to somehow defeat him, but me, well I don't know..."
"Our levels are too far apart"

Itachi:
ใ€Œใ‚ใ‚โ€ฆใ‚„ใ‚ŠๅˆใˆใฏไบŒไบบๅ…ฑๆฎบใ•ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ‹่‰ฏใใฆ็›ธๆ‰“ใกใจใ„ใ†ใจใ“ใ‚ใ€
ใ€Œโ€ฆใŸใจใˆไบบๆ•ฐใ‚’ๅข—ใ‚„ใ—ใŸใจใ—ใฆใ‚‚ๅค‰ใ‚ใ‚‰ใชใ„ใ ใ‚ใ†ใ€
"Yeah... If we fought him, we might both be killed. If it goes well, we might take him with us."
"Even if the number of people were to increase, this probably wouldn't change"

Kisame
ใ€Œใƒฉใƒผใƒกใƒณๅฑ‹ใงใ€€ใ‚„ใฃใจ่ฆ‹ไป˜ใ‘ใŸใฏใ„ใ„ใŒโ€ฆใŠๅฎˆใ‚ŠใŒใ€€ใ‚ใฎใ‚›ไผ่ชฌใฎไธ‰ๅฟใ‚›ใจใฏใ€
ใ€ŒๅฝผใŒ็›ธๆ‰‹ใงใฏใ‚›ๆœจใƒŽ่‘‰ใฎใ†ใกใฏไธ€ๆ—ใ‚›ใ‚‚ใ‚›้œงใฎๅฟๅˆ€ไธƒไบบ่ก†ใ‚›ใฎๅใ‚‚ใ‹ใ™ใ‚“ใงใ—ใพใ†ใ€
"It was good we finally found them by the ramen store, but... his guardian is of those 'Legendary Three Ninja' "
"He, as an opponent, makes 'Konoha's Uchiha clan' and the 'Seven Shinobi Swordmen of the Mist' seem like nothing."

Itachi:
ใ€Œใ‚ใ‚โ€ฆใ—ใ‹ใ—โ€ฆโ€ฆใ€
ใ€Œใฉใ‚“ใชๅผท่€…ใซใ‚‚ๅผฑ็‚นใจใ„ใ†ใฎใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใฎใ โ€ฆโ€ฆใ€
"Yes... However......"
"No matter how strong a person is, he is bound to have a weakness..."
 

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No, Kisame is not near Jman's level as he said


Originally Posted by Ch144, p8
Kisame:
ใ€Œใ‚ขใƒŠใ‚ฟใชใ‚‰ใฉใ†ใซใ‹ใ“ใ†ใซใ‹ใ‚„ใ‚Œใ‚‹็›ธๆ‰‹ใงใ‚‚็งใ˜ใ‚ƒใ‚ ๅˆ†ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ‚ˆโ€ฆใ€
ใ€Œๆฌกๅ…ƒใŒ้•ใ†ใ€
"You might be able to somehow defeat him, but me, well I don't know..."
"Our levels are too far apart"

Itachi:
ใ€Œใ‚ใ‚โ€ฆใ‚„ใ‚ŠๅˆใˆใฏไบŒไบบๅ…ฑๆฎบใ•ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ‹่‰ฏใใฆ็›ธๆ‰“ใกใจใ„ใ†ใจใ“ใ‚ใ€
ใ€Œโ€ฆใŸใจใˆไบบๆ•ฐใ‚’ๅข—ใ‚„ใ—ใŸใจใ—ใฆใ‚‚ๅค‰ใ‚ใ‚‰ใชใ„ใ ใ‚ใ†ใ€
"Yeah... If we fought him, we might both be killed. If it goes well, we might take him with us."
"Even if the number of people were to increase, this probably wouldn't change"

Kisame
ใ€Œใƒฉใƒผใƒกใƒณๅฑ‹ใงใ€€ใ‚„ใฃใจ่ฆ‹ไป˜ใ‘ใŸใฏใ„ใ„ใŒโ€ฆใŠๅฎˆใ‚ŠใŒใ€€ใ‚ใฎใ‚›ไผ่ชฌใฎไธ‰ๅฟใ‚›ใจใฏใ€
ใ€ŒๅฝผใŒ็›ธๆ‰‹ใงใฏใ‚›ๆœจใƒŽ่‘‰ใฎใ†ใกใฏไธ€ๆ—ใ‚›ใ‚‚ใ‚›้œงใฎๅฟๅˆ€ไธƒไบบ่ก†ใ‚›ใฎๅใ‚‚ใ‹ใ™ใ‚“ใงใ—ใพใ†ใ€
"It was good we finally found them by the ramen store, but... his guardian is of those 'Legendary Three Ninja' "
"He, as an opponent, makes 'Konoha's Uchiha clan' and the 'Seven Shinobi Swordmen of the Mist' seem like nothing."

Itachi:
ใ€Œใ‚ใ‚โ€ฆใ—ใ‹ใ—โ€ฆโ€ฆใ€
ใ€Œใฉใ‚“ใชๅผท่€…ใซใ‚‚ๅผฑ็‚นใจใ„ใ†ใฎใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใฎใ โ€ฆโ€ฆใ€
"Yes... However......"
"No matter how strong a person is, he is bound to have a weakness..."

Feats speak much louder than words; you realize.
 

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:leaf::leaf::leaf:

prove that from the MANGA, or it's just bullshiting without any proof!

and as for what, just like when he attacked Kurnai and tried to kill her? Or when he attacked kakashi?
or when he stood in their faces so the Akatsuki can take Gaara's tailed beast?

or we can say Jman IS also a spy, so he let itachi run away with Kisame because he did not want to kill itachi! =D

Edit: being an ally does not have anything with power.
Kakashi is by Naruto's side, but he said that Naruto is stronger than him, so what?

Lol? Can't tell if serious, Wont even waste my time on a scrub.
I'm not good with Scenarios soo... yea but I guess i'll give it a try.

Tsukuyomi can be made useless due to the chakra control of Tsunade. Though you may say 1 second is enough to do the damage, I would disagree due to Kakashi and also, because it is dependent on the person who is getting controlled. If Tsukuyomi is countered... Itachi will give up on it. On top of that , using the surrounding and hide and go tactics, can also be Itachi's downfall.

If it were to come to close combat, Tsunade takes it.

As I said I can't say it with a Scenario, but simply give counters. Hope you understand what i'm saying.....

Can't tell if serious? You bring up a counter to tysukuyomi which is chakra control? I'm sorry but I just choked a bit on my cereal im currently eatingZzz. Back in part 1 Itachi hypes up his tysukuyomi to be near un-breakable by normal methods so I don't see your chakra control argument being legit here, anyway's tsunade isnt breaking out of it right off the bat so it won't be 1 second but much more. Keeping that in mind she will hardly be able to stand and fall unconscious and Itachi proceeds to lit her with amaterasu and fight is over. Regarding kakashi eventually he could barely keep his self up and . And that was only 3 days, Itachi can easily make it a week.

Itachi>tsunade Neg diff. Ill say low diff just to be generous.
 
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