Mokuton vs Rinnegan

[Europa]

It depends on how well you can use it.

Novice Mokuton users:

Zetsu, Yamato.

"Novice" Rinnegan users:

Nagato, Obito.

It's clear who's power is better when you're not Hashirama.

 

[KingHashirama]

It depends on how well you can use it.

Novice Mokuton users:

Zetsu, Yamato.

"Novice" Rinnegan users:

Nagato, Obito.

It's clear who's power is better when you're not Hashirama.

But had senju bodies to power up the rinnegan.

Give Yamato senju body also, =]

 

[HadouKage]

Kakashi has earth and water, are you saying hes able to use Mokuton? rofl

The very man who was talking about that, was injected with Hashirama's dna himself... Its been stated multiple times, that he was injected with Hashirama's cells and use the wood style..

Hashirama's dna allows you to create mokuton..

The bold is irrelevant as Kakashi has multiple natures (katon, doton, suiton and raiton) and is unable to use KKG of any kind. Just because one knows how to use multiple natures doesn't guarantee they (know how to) use KKG.


If what you're saying is true, how come Madara on the battlefield only used Mokuton with the Rinnegan activated?

 

[KingHashirama]

The bold is irrelevant as Kakashi has multiple natures (katon, doton, suiton and raiton) and is unable to use KKG of any kind. Just because one knows how to use multiple natures doesn't guarantee they (know how to) use KKG.


If what you're saying is true, how come Madara on the battlefield only used Mokuton with the Rinnegan activated?

How is it irrelevant. When you state rinnegan (give person all 5 affinities) can help you obtain Mokuton....

=]

 

[HadouKage]

How is it irrelevant. When you state rinnegan (give person all 5 affinities) can help you obtain Mokuton....

=]

Playing word games are we? Have you referred to what I said in the previous post? Madara is familiar with Mokuton and was basically one of the scientist in the NV but only used Mokuton (techs) with the Rinnegan activated, even though he had Hashi's DNA. I wonder why....

hmm
Yamato was injected with the Hashirama's DNA,thats why he can use Mokuton.

Once again, what I just posted and what you're saying doesn't mean I'm wrong or that you're wrong. However, Madara was also injected with Hashi's DNA but did not use Mokuton until he activated the Rinnegan

 

[-Spoiler-]

What kind of question is this? With the Rinnegan, one can obtain Mokuton

nope. only with hashi dna.

 

[EternalFlame]

I think the Rinnegan is definitely stronger. Really unique abilities, and keeps getting Jutsu added to its already OPness.

As for the users themselves?

Look at the shit Madara and Nagato can do with the Rinnegan, now imagine it from the Sage. We already have an example as he used Chibaku Tensei to create the ****ing moon. Imagine a Shinri Tensei from the Sage. Would solo any Mokuton Jutsu.

 

[KingHashirama]

Playing word games are we? Have you referred to what I said in the previous post? Madara is familiar with Mokuton and was basically one of the scientist in the NV but only used Mokuton (techs) with the Rinnegan activated, even though he had Hashi's DNA. I wonder why....




Once again, what I just posted and what you're saying doesn't mean I'm wrong or that you're wrong. However, Madara was also injected with Hashi's DNA but did not use Mokuton until he activated the Rinnegan

He used mokuton to create zetsu...

 

[Donald J Trump]

Lol

Chibaku tensei

Summoning Meteors
Absorbing all jutsu
Summoning like crazy
know all 5 elements
Gravity control
Rockets


yh....
RINNENGAN!

 

[HadouKage]

He used mokuton to create zetsu...

Why are you grasping at straws? Why did Madara not use Mokuton without the aid of the Rinnegan?

nope. only with hashi dna.

Proof?

 

[KingHashirama]

Why are you grasping at straws? Why did Madara not use Mokuton without the aid of the Rinnegan?



Proof?

He never used it with the aid of the rinnegan.....

Obito used it without the rinnegan.... Yamato used it without the Rinnegan... I just told you that he used Mokuton to create Zetsu.. you tell me i'm nit picking?

 

[HadouKage]

He never used it with the aid of the rinnegan.....

Obito used it without the rinnegan.... Yamato used it without the Rinnegan... I just told you that he used Mokuton to create Zetsu.. you tell me i'm nit picking?

Can I see scans of the first two claims you've made, not the Yamato claim but the fact the Madara never had the Rinnegan activated when he used Mokuton

 

[-Spoiler-]

Why are you grasping at straws? Why did Madara not use Mokuton without the aid of the Rinnegan?



Proof?

proof? show me one mokuton user that wasnt involved with hashirama's dna :yeah:. nagato had rinnegan but no mokuton. he mastered all 5 natures during the time when jiraiya was teaching him so where is nagato's mokuton?

 

[KingHashirama]

Can I see scans of the first two claims you've made, not the Yamato claim but the fact the Madara never had the Rinnegan activated when he used Mokuton

Actually you would have to prove that he created the Zetsu with the rinnegan activated.. because the manga doesn't show him even a rinnegan while creating zetsu..

 

[HadouKage]

Actually you would have to prove that he created the Zetsu with the rinnegan activated.. because the manga doesn't show him even a rinnegan while creating zetsu..

Are you high? Or just trolling? I don't have to prove anything because I didn't make the claim. I asked you to prove your claim with manga facts and you went off on a tangent avoiding the question. Stop grasping at straws.


Manga facts dictate that Madara had the Rinnegan at that time because he implanted his eyes in a young Nagato. Madara awoke the Rinnegan on his deathbed and was still alive due to the "Mokuton chakara" keeping him alive. When Obito confronted Nagato, Yahiko and Konan, Nagato was a teen

Again, I ask, where is your proof supporting your claim and disproving my own?

 

[KidGamer65]

Playing word games are we? Have you referred to what I said in the previous post? Madara is familiar with Mokuton and was basically one of the scientist in the NV but only used Mokuton (techs) with the Rinnegan activated, even though he had Hashi's DNA. I wonder why....




Once again, what I just posted and what you're saying doesn't mean I'm wrong or that you're wrong. However, Madara was also injected with Hashi's DNA but did not use Mokuton until he activated the Rinnegan

I hope you realize the nonsense you are spewing makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Why in the world would he need Rinnegan to use Mokuton when its already canon that you only need Hashirama's DNA? Danzo, Yamato and Obito don't have the Rinnegan yet they can all use Mokuton.

Madara using Mokuton while Rinnegan active equating him only being able to use it with the Rinnegan active is as stupid as the Madara needs Rinnegan to use PS argument.

You know, the more posts I see of yours, the more I start to believe your credibility on the site. However, this doesn't disprove you however it just shows

You must be registered for see links

You must be registered for see links

You must be registered for see links

As you can see, on the last link I provided, this really disproves the fact that only Hashi's cells are able to access Mokuton.... per manga facts

As for this...rofl. What? Mokuton being a combo of Earth or Water obviously doesn't mean anything at all here considering Mokuton is created via the strong life force of Hashirama's cells AND every user has always needed Hashirama's cells to use the technique.


Rinnegan itself giving you access to Mokuton is obviously false to anyone who reads the manga correctly.

Why are you grasping at straws? Why did Madara not use Mokuton without the aid of the Rinnegan?

All I have to say is lol. lol @ this post and lol @ your argument's base, which is the above.


Lol

 

[KingHashirama]

Are you high? Or just trolling? I don't have to prove anything because I didn't make the claim. I asked you to prove your claim with manga facts and you went off on a tangent avoiding the question. Stop grasping at straws.


Manga facts dictate that Madara had the Rinnegan at that time because he implanted his eyes in a young Nagato. Madara awoke the Rinnegan on his deathbed and was still alive due to the "Mokuton chakara" keeping him alive. When Obito confronted Nagato, Yahiko and Konan, Nagato was a teen

Again, I ask, where is your proof supporting your claim and disproving my own?

Oh but you did make the claim, Madara used rinnegan for mokuton.. when I stated didn't show having rinnegan when he created Zetsu via Mokuton.

 

[HadouKage]

I hope you realize the nonsense you are spewing makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Why in the world would he need Rinnegan to use Mokuton when its already canon that you only need Hashirama's DNA? Danzo, Yamato and Obito don't have the Rinnegan yet they can all use Mokuton.

Madara using Mokuton while Rinnegan active equating him only being able to use it with the Rinnegan active is as stupid as the Madara needs Rinnegan to use PS argument.



As for this...rofl. What? Mokuton being a combo of Earth or Water obviously doesn't mean anything at all here considering Mokuton is created via the strong life force of Hashirama's cells AND every user has always needed Hashirama's cells to use the technique.


Rinnegan itself giving you access to Mokuton is obviously false to anyone who reads the manga correctly.


All I have to say is lol. lol @ this post and lol @ your argument's base, which is the above.


Lol

I never said Hashi's DNA doesn't give you access to Mokuton . It's a manga fact along with the fact that that both water and earth combined creates wood. How is this disproven?

 

[3MESSIAH]

i believe it`s like that

mokuton:body of the juubi
sharingan:eye of the juubi

combine both and you get rinnegan.so rinnegan no diff

it`s just like SENJU+UCHIHA-rinnegan

 

[-Spoiler-]

I never said Hashi's DNA doesn't give you access to Mokuton . It's a manga fact along with the fact that that both water and earth combined creates wood. How is this disproven?

sure water and earth combine makes wood but wood is a KKG and hashirama is the only person to have it without any form of modification.