Minato's "speed" isn't speed at all

[partha420]

So?? U happy?

 

[A$AP Wap]

dude ... before making any comment ..please read/research about it properly ... FTG - Flying Thunder God technique ... Its not an Item .. and If U are talking about special Kunai ... If u Read manga carefully u would know ... He can FTG without Kunai also ... wherever He places Special seal ( Called Markings U_U) ... He can be there in an instant .. so please read first then comment U_U

and btw ... U are making urself fool ..posting stupid imagination of urs !





If u want to teach us basic math or physics ....post the thread in general discussions

In an anime we discuss about its characteristics or info ... so here the term "Speed" is used to compare fighting capabilities of characters ... So when we speak about speed ...we mean how fast a char can move ... watever tech hes using that does not matter ... so ur point is invalid ... hes "speed" is more than 4th raikage U_U

He does the Technique with a seal. It's still the same thing as Teleporting.

 

[A$AP Wap]

1)Minato

Even though his teleportation requires seals, he can still teleport to wherever they are instantly. We are not considering whether a jutsu is prepped or no, but rather how quickly it can get a person from point A to point B.

2)Obito

Obito's S/T jutsu takes time to fully initiate since he first has to absorb himself into his separate space and then reappear at his desired location. Because of this he has more versatility in choosing where he wants to go, but this thread is only concerned with how fast he can get himself from one place to another.

3)BM Naruto

KM Naruto has proved capable of dodging the raikage's fastest attack and BM Naruto has been shown to deflect 5 bijuudamas away from Guy and Kakashi at point-blank range. These are some of the greatest physical speed feats in the NV

4)Guy in 8th gate

While we have yet to see any real feats from the 8th gate, it is presumed, according to the descroption of the 8th gate, that it will grant power greater than the 5 kages. The EIG grant the user enhanced speed and power, so it means that Guy would temporarily be faster than even the raikage which is why I have Guy above the raikage. He is below BM Naruto because Naruto isnt technically a kage, so the description of the 8th gate likely doesnt apply to him. Therefore, it is currently unknown whether the 8th gate would grant speed faster than BM Naruto

5)Raikage

The raikage was considered the fastest alive after Minato himself and is still one of the top tier speedsters in the NV. He is obviously the one that most people compare other very fast shinobi to, making him the minimum standard of being a top tier speedster.

Others that are also fast and are still considered to be near the top tier when it comes to speed:

Third raikage:

This guy, like his son is also noted to be very fast since he uss the same technique, lightning armor. He, however, is more known for his durability a bit more than his speed, making him not as fast as his son, but still pretty close.

Lee in the 5th gate:

Has proven himself earlier on in the story to be one of the fastest in the NV with the power of the EIG. However, his mastery of the EIG isn't up to his sensei's level, so it is obvious that he would not be as quick, though he is sure to be one of the top contenders in the speed department.

Zetsu:

Zetsus unusual ability to meld in to the trees grants him a transportation ability not unlike Obito's and it allows him to traverse through terrain very quickly, though it is noted to not be quite as fast as Obito's jutsu itself. It has great potential, but the amount of time it takes for him to meld with the environment makes it almost usless in battle, especially against other top tier speedster that are mentioned above him.

Without S/T (aka TELEPORTING), who's fastest?
Re-do the list and tell me.

 

[LegendaryAce]

FTG is an Item Minato uses.
Sharingan/Bijuu/Wood Release are Kekki Genkai/Things that person was born with/Forced to have.
Minato was never born holding a FTG kunai.
Your attempt to make my thread seem like a Fail thread Failed.
Please stop making yourself seem more like a fool.

Fool for saying what he has to say?

Listen raikage uses lightning release to speed him self up
Minato uses seals to "teleport"
Moving from point a to b is a form of speed ( he moves at the speed of light)
Ofcourse I understand what you mean though minato and raikage base speed shouldn't be that far off
And minato doesn't have to use a Kunai he uses a seal which he tagged on the Kunai he can use it on anything

 

[fastrthnwind]

Without S/T (aka TELEPORTING), who's fastest?
Re-do the list and tell me.

Lol just take the people who only use footspeed and move them up to replace the S/T users. Im too lazy to redo the whole thing! xd

1)BM Naruto

2)8 Gate Guy

3)4th Raikage

4)3rd Raikage

5)Lee 5th Gate

 

[cptenn94]

....you people need to get it through your thick skulls that minato is not dependent on his ftg for his speed......yes he teleported....but look at his reactions...without ftg he would still have them....his reaction (also technically speed) is so fast that he purposely waited for the raikage to get as close to hitting him as possible...then he ftg away....


feats/explantion....small text wall so i put in spoiler, but recomend reading to see his feats

Spoiler

so i have established his reaction time is superb, and the best if not like second best......now i will tell you of his base speed.....his base speed was so fast that he was able to run like 10-20 yards, to grab naruto from tobi.....tobi waas trying to stab naruto...go take a pen or pencil and swing it as fast as you can for 3 ft....it takes less a second or less....that was base speed since he didnt throw kunai,or never put a ftg seal on naruto....he simply ran, deal with it....also look when kushina was about to be crushed by the kyuubi....in less than 3 seconds(that it would take for kyuubi to smash ground, he teleported to her and then grabbed her and carried her to the top of a tree at least 50 yards away, probably more than that......do you honestly think he would ftg a random tree, it was base speed....also in kakashi gaiden it is debatable that he used base speed there to save kakashi.....



so there i established he truly does have fast base speed....while i doubt he can maintain that base speed long distance or continuosly like lee did vs gaara(running around him real fast) he is that fast or close(in sprints)...he isnt known for long battles or long runs...he was known as the yellow flash for a reason....you would be dead before you could attack him(as he would end any battle shortly)

simply yes minato uses a form of teleportation....but that still counts as his speed, and he has incredible reflexes, and is still very fast base speed....base speed raikage(no lighting cloak) vs base speed minato(no ftg) minato would win easily....because minato doesnt have to lug all that muscle mass around.....and the thinner you are the less air resistance you have to go against...and im being generous with saying this because we have no raikage base feats(which i think are probably lee level with leg weights and no gates)(although that is still pretty fast)

again simply ftg is part of minatos speed, as it requires reaction timing to use right(look at how slow those other guys take when using ftg(minatos bodyguards) so with the skill minato uses ftg is part of his speed....and without that he still has incredible base speed.....with his base speed he would still be known as the yellow flash, just enemies would not be told to run on sight.....


(minato would still be uber fast with his base speed, but wouldnt be fast in long distance running



so simply without ftg minato is not NOTHING...he has great base speed

(if you think that minato doesnt have great base speed read the spoiler.....i give his feats....(which he does have) of base speed

 

[hatake axel]

Minato's base speed is still avobe many including the Raikage.
A's speed is caused by his lightning armour. So its not
base speef either..

 

[A$AP Wap]

Fool for saying what he has to say?

Listen raikage uses lightning release to speed him self up
Minato uses seals to "teleport"
Moving from point a to b is a form of speed ( he moves at the speed of light)
Ofcourse I understand what you mean though minato and raikage base speed shouldn't be that far off
And minato doesn't have to use a Kunai he uses a seal which he tagged on the Kunai he can use it on anything

The seal is wrapped onto the Kunai.
Why not just call it a Kunai? I have to say the seal?
The Kunai is basically the seal.

I'm not going to explain why Raikage's speed is more Legit than Minato again since you haven't gotten it in your head.

....you people need to get it through your thick skulls that minato is not dependent on his ftg for his speed......yes he teleported....but look at his reactions...without ftg he would still have them....his reaction (also technically speed) is so fast that he purposely waited for the raikage to get as close to hitting him as possible...then he ftg away....


feats/explantion....small text wall so i put in spoiler, but recomend reading to see his feats

Spoiler

so i have established his reaction time is superb, and the best if not like second best......now i will tell you of his base speed.....his base speed was so fast that he was able to run like 10-20 yards, to grab naruto from tobi.....tobi waas trying to stab naruto...go take a pen or pencil and swing it as fast as you can for 3 ft....it takes less a second or less....that was base speed since he didnt throw kunai,or never put a ftg seal on naruto....he simply ran, deal with it....also look when kushina was about to be crushed by the kyuubi....in less than 3 seconds(that it would take for kyuubi to smash ground, he teleported to her and then grabbed her and carried her to the top of a tree at least 50 yards away, probably more than that......do you honestly think he would ftg a random tree, it was base speed....also in kakashi gaiden it is debatable that he used base speed there to save kakashi.....



so there i established he truly does have fast base speed....while i doubt he can maintain that base speed long distance or continuosly like lee did vs gaara(running around him real fast) he is that fast or close(in sprints)...he isnt known for long battles or long runs...he was known as the yellow flash for a reason....you would be dead before you could attack him(as he would end any battle shortly)

simply yes minato uses a form of teleportation....but that still counts as his speed, and he has incredible reflexes, and is still very fast base speed....base speed raikage(no lighting cloak) vs base speed minato(no ftg) minato would win easily....because minato doesnt have to lug all that muscle mass around.....and the thinner you are the less air resistance you have to go against...and im being generous with saying this because we have no raikage base feats(which i think are probably lee level with leg weights and no gates)(although that is still pretty fast)

again simply ftg is part of minatos speed, as it requires reaction timing to use right(look at how slow those other guys take when using ftg(minatos bodyguards) so with the skill minato uses ftg is part of his speed....and without that he still has incredible base speed.....with his base speed he would still be known as the yellow flash, just enemies would not be told to run on sight.....


(minato would still be uber fast with his base speed, but wouldnt be fast in long distance running



so simply without ftg minato is not NOTHING...he has great base speed

(if you think that minato doesnt have great base speed read the spoiler.....i give his feats....(which he does have) of base speed

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[A$AP Wap]

Minato's base speed is still avobe many including the Raikage.
A's speed is caused by his lightning armour. So its not
base speef either..

Raikage is already Fast without Lightning Armor. Lightning Armour just boosts Raikage's speed to the Max.

vs.

Minato Teleporting anywhere he put a FTG Kunai on. Mianto's not using his speed, he's just Teleporting.

 

[uncle sam]

White boy got hops

 

[LegendaryAce]

The seal is wrapped onto the Kunai.
Why not just call it a Kunai? I have to say the seal?
The Kunai is basically the seal.

I'm not going to explain why Raikage's speed is more Legit than Minato again since you haven't gotten it in your head.

A car seat is in a car should I call the seat a car? That's your logic

The seal is what allows him to use the technique ..it can be placed anywhere he touches so calling ftg a Kunai is wrong

There are a few times minato uses his base speed
Where he saves Kushina
Where he saves baby Naruto
And the part he runs towards tobi when they fought

All those times he has been quite fast there are probably more but yea
I don't think he is slow in his base even tobi called him fast and he didn't use ftg
And a maybe has seen his base since he called him the fastest ninja

And the raikage base .. Even sasuke can keep up with it with his v1 and 2 he becomes much much faster but that's a technique that allows him to go faster than he is normally if minato teleporting is cheating so is the raikage using lighting to run like a mad man

 

[A$AP Wap]

A car seat is in a car should I call the seat a car? That's your logic

The seal is what allows him to use the technique ..it can be placed anywhere he touches so calling ftg a Kunai is wrong

There are a few times minato uses his base speed
Where he saves Kushina
Where he saves baby Naruto
And the part he runs towards tobi when they fought

All those times he has been quite fast there are probably more but yea
I don't think he is slow in his base even tobi called him fast and he didn't use ftg
And a maybe has seen his base since he called him the fastest ninja

And the raikage base .. Even sasuke can keep up with it with his v1 and 2 he becomes much much faster but that's a technique that allows him to go faster than he is normally if minato teleporting is cheating so is the raikage using lighting to run like a mad man

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(Too tired to tell you Teleporting is Different from Speed)

 

[hatake axel]

Raikage is already Fast without Lightning Armor. Lightning Armour just boosts Raikage's speed to the Max.

vs.

Minato Teleporting anywhere he put a FTG Kunai on. Mianto's not using his speed, he's just Teleporting.

I did not say teleporting was speed, did I?. Because it's not.
Minato's base speed and reactions where pretty high as when he saved Kushina as a kid.
Maybe you are right and the Raikage is faster.
But lighting armour is not base speed either.

 

[LegendaryAce]

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(Too tired to tell you Teleporting is Different from Speed)

I am well aware it's different ..but it's a form of speed in different ways


Also go watch minato using his base speed then compare

 

[cptenn94]

Raikage is already Fast without Lightning Armor. Lightning Armour just boosts Raikage's speed to the Max.

vs.

Minato Teleporting anywhere he put a FTG Kunai on. Mianto's not using his speed, he's just Teleporting.

ok...we have no speed feats that show that raikage has great base speed...not one ...minato base speed you have underrated....it is still very fast...there are many feats that show he has uber base speed...so based on what we know minato base>A base

i understand your point that the ftg is teleportation...teleportation is a form of moving, just not running...raikage with lightning armor is faster than minato without his ftg.....but since speed is moving point a to b ftg still counts as speed....also minato has as good or better reaction timing....

simply yes technically ftg is cheating in minatos speed....but you need to look and understand that minato has incredible base speed still....

 

[Uchihajin Sasuke]

FTG isn't speed at all. It's teleportation. -Facepalm-

I couldn't have said any better

 

[bl4ckJack]

He does the Technique with a seal. It's still the same thing as Teleporting.

Dont do debate if u cant accept ur wrong ... I pointed out ur *wild imaginations* ..and u avoided the topic... U_U

Without S/T (aka TELEPORTING), who's fastest?
Re-do the list and tell me.

There is nothing like "without this some one is Nothing* ...thats a childs argument to prove himself ri8 U_U
Then Without Kurama Naruto will be much weaker , Without MS,EMS Uchiha will be weak ( for ur kind info .. uchihas dont born with Sharingan .. they activate It ... many uchihas are not able to activate it ... Nobody borns with EMS ... stop ur childish arguments -facepalm- )

The seal is wrapped onto the Kunai.
Why not just call it a Kunai? I have to say the seal?
The Kunai is basically the seal.

I'm not going to explain why Raikage's speed is more Legit than Minato again since you haven't gotten it in your head.

Raikage is already Fast without Lightning Armor. Lightning Armour just boosts Raikage's speed to the Max.

vs.

Minato Teleporting anywhere he put a FTG Kunai on. Mianto's not using his speed, he's just Teleporting.

I dont know ur plain stupid or Trolling .... READ CAREFULLY MANGA !!! ... Minato can form the seal with his bare hand also ... he can mark opponents just by touching them ... if u need help with Manga page go check his fight with Tobi or the fight in Kakashi Gaiden .... y u cant understand a simple fact that its not all about his Kunai :sy: ... i know y .. U dont want to accept ur wrong ... Grow Up U_U

 

[Rosco Wellington]

Raikage admitted his inferiority in speed. Your argument is invalid good sir. All the raikage uses is a lightning based body flicker. If thats all your basing things off of then take into account That minato knows the body flicker tech as well. so yes he has real speed even by your own definition.

 

[ANONYMOUS 182]

agreed!!

 

[~Sovereign~]

minato saved naruto with base speed

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I DONT SEE FTG BEING USED IN THIS LINK (ALL BASE SPEED)

dont take a character's ability away and then try to say their "nothing"

FAIL