Minato's "speed" isn't speed at all

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Guys, speed equals distance over time or s=d/t

FTG cuts time to 0 to go any distance, making the equation s=d(-infinity to infinity)/0

because an equation over zero makes it undefined, it is therefore not classified as speed.
I think that's what I'm trying to say.
 

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Minato's still the fastest character in the series. It doesn't matter what you see as 'fair'. He uses his chakra via the seals, just as Raikage uses his chakra via the Lighning Armor. Minato wins, accept it.

Concerning base speed, we don't know who's faster. Raikage without Lightning Armor is just about as fast, if not slower, than Sasuke. We can only assume that Minato's base speed is really fast too. He's not just gonna rely on one tech. for speed. He's also a prodigy. Not hard to believe he's fast.

This. Both of them achieve their legendary "speed" using some sort of chakra based technique. Also, does it really matter if A is faster than Minato without the FTG? We already know that Minato has and will use FTG using that he can outmaneuver the Raikage and come out on top.
 

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I'm trying to say Minato's speed is by Teleportation and Raikage's speed is by actually using his Speed.

What I'm trying to say is you're wrong. Minato is most definitely the fastest Shinobi in Naruto. Learn to deal with it.

Guys, speed equals distance over time or s=d/t

FTG cuts time to 0 to go any distance, making the equation s=d(-infinity to infinity)/0

because an equation over zero makes it undefined, it is therefore not classified as speed.

Look at you trying to use some physics. The type of jutsu Minato uses is a Space/TIME jutsu, implying there is some element of time. Whether it be the speed of light or .000000000000001 of a second, it's not 0 seconds.
 

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What I'm trying to say is you're wrong. Minato is most definitely the fastest Shinobi in Naruto. Learn to deal with it.



Look at you trying to use some physics. The type of jutsu Minato uses is a Space/TIME jutsu, implying there is some element of time. Whether it be the speed of light or .000000000000001 of a second, it's not 0 seconds.
Lawl. He's the fastest because everyone calls him the fastest.
I'm trying to say that speed isn't really legit speed. It's Teleportation.
He can Teleport to a certain area quickly.
Speed has nothing to do with him Teleporting, but since he goes to the area he wants to in a short amount of time, everyone says he's the fastest. I'm trying to say he's not actually using his speed, but he's Teleporting.

I can deal with him being called the fastest, but I want to clarify that he's Teleporting and not actually running.
 

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Minato is actually quite fast without using the ftg, example he was able to catch naruto when he was a infant, and he was able to save kakashi from taking a fatal slash from the enemy, but whats more impressive is his reflexes and reaction speed, thats why A says minato is the fastest ninja alive even if he does not have ftg
 

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He gets there in a short amount of time...

THATS SPEED

By Teleporting.
If you were in a 100 meter race and placed a FTG Kunai at the finish and use the technique to go to the finish line are you actualy using your speed, or are you just Teleporting? You would've cheated in that race wouldn't you? Yes you would've got tehre quickly, but you didn't use any of your speed.
 
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Lawl. He's the fastest because everyone calls him the fastest.
I'm trying to say that speed isn't really legit speed. It's Teleportation.
He can Teleport to a certain area quickly.
Speed has nothing to do with him Teleporting, but since he goes to the area he wants to in a short amount of time, everyone says he's the fastest. I'm trying to say he's not actually using his speed, but he's Teleporting.

I can deal with him being called the fastest, but I want to clarify that he's Teleporting and not actually running.

He's generally called the fastest because he's the fastest. Get it through your thick skull, please. Definition of speed: move quickly. Isn't that exactly what Minato does? His means of doing that does not matter. It is speed.
 

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Minato is actually quite fast without using the ftg, example he was able to catch naruto when he was a infant, and he was able to save kakashi from taking a fatal slash from the enemy, but whats more impressive is his reflexes and reaction speed, thats why A says minato is the fastest ninja alive even if he does not have ftg

Minato only dodged Raikage's Lariat by using FTG.
If you can dodge that by just dodging it, then you can call that true speed.
If you just teleported, it's just teleporting.
 

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He's generally called the fastest because he's the fastest. Get it through your thick skull, please. Definition of speed: move quickly. Isn't that exactly what Minato does? His means of doing that does not matter. It is speed.

It's Teleporting.
It can be called both actually, but he's basically Teleporting to the spot he put the FTG on, not just running to the spot.
So it's basically Teleporting.
 

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What I'm trying to say is you're wrong. Minato is most definitely the fastest Shinobi in Naruto. Learn to deal with it.



Look at you trying to use some physics. The type of jutsu Minato uses is a Space/TIME jutsu, implying there is some element of time. Whether it be the speed of light or .000000000000001 of a second, it's not 0 seconds.

Yea its space time jutsu because it manipulates time so that he arrives at his destination in no time whatsoever. Teleportation is the movement between two points with no time elapsed when traveling between them
 

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It's Teleporting.
It can be called both actually, but he's basically Teleporting to the spot he put the FTG on, not just running to the spot.
So it's basically Teleporting.

So now he's basically teleporting. Before he was teleporting, but now he's basically teleporting? C'mon dude. At least keep your stories the same. It is speed. Just accept it.
 

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So now he's basically teleporting. Before he was teleporting, but now he's basically teleporting? C'mon dude. At least keep your stories the same. It is speed. Just accept it.

Tf?
I kept it the same. He's Teleporting.
He's only called fast because he can Teleport to any location in a short amount of time.
Alright, stfu it's Teleporting. I feel that all you're oging to say is "it's speed! it's speed!" and I don't really want to keep up on the same argument with a stubborn person.
 

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Obito called him fast. He didn't use FTG.
You know how Ay is. He's kind of prideful. He wouldn't say someone's faster than himself if he didn't mean it.

Minato > Ay in about every aspect.
 

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Raikage is faster and By end of this day, this thread will reach to hottest ..
 

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FTG is an Item Minato uses.
Sharingan/Bijuu/Wood Release are Kekki Genkai/Things that person was born with/Forced to have.
Minato was never born holding a FTG kunai.
Your attempt to make my thread seem like a Fail thread Failed.
Please stop making yourself seem more like a fool.

dude ... before making any comment ..please read/research about it properly ... FTG - Flying Thunder God technique ... Its not an Item .. and If U are talking about special Kunai ... If u Read manga carefully u would know ... He can FTG without Kunai also ... wherever He places Special seal ( Called Markings U_U) ... He can be there in an instant .. so please read first then comment U_U

and btw ... U are making urself fool ..posting stupid imagination of urs !

Guys, speed equals distance over time or s=d/t

FTG cuts time to 0 to go any distance, making the equation s=d(-infinity to infinity)/0

because an equation over zero makes it undefined, it is therefore not classified as speed.

I think that's what I'm trying to say.

If u want to teach us basic math or physics ....post the thread in general discussions :D

In an anime we discuss about its characteristics or info ... so here the term "Speed" is used to compare fighting capabilities of characters ... So when we speak about speed ...we mean how fast a char can move ... watever tech hes using that does not matter ... so ur point is invalid ... hes "speed" is more than 4th raikage U_U
 
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1)Minato

Even though his teleportation requires seals, he can still teleport to wherever they are instantly. We are not considering whether a jutsu is prepped or no, but rather how quickly it can get a person from point A to point B.

2)Obito

Obito's S/T jutsu takes time to fully initiate since he first has to absorb himself into his separate space and then reappear at his desired location. Because of this he has more versatility in choosing where he wants to go, but this thread is only concerned with how fast he can get himself from one place to another.

3)BM Naruto

KM Naruto has proved capable of dodging the raikage's fastest attack and BM Naruto has been shown to deflect 5 bijuudamas away from Guy and Kakashi at point-blank range. These are some of the greatest physical speed feats in the NV

4)Guy in 8th gate

While we have yet to see any real feats from the 8th gate, it is presumed, according to the descroption of the 8th gate, that it will grant power greater than the 5 kages. The EIG grant the user enhanced speed and power, so it means that Guy would temporarily be faster than even the raikage which is why I have Guy above the raikage. He is below BM Naruto because Naruto isnt technically a kage, so the description of the 8th gate likely doesnt apply to him. Therefore, it is currently unknown whether the 8th gate would grant speed faster than BM Naruto

5)Raikage

The raikage was considered the fastest alive after Minato himself and is still one of the top tier speedsters in the NV. He is obviously the one that most people compare other very fast shinobi to, making him the minimum standard of being a top tier speedster.

Others that are also fast and are still considered to be near the top tier when it comes to speed:

Third raikage:

This guy, like his son is also noted to be very fast since he uss the same technique, lightning armor. He, however, is more known for his durability a bit more than his speed, making him not as fast as his son, but still pretty close.

Lee in the 5th gate:

Has proven himself earlier on in the story to be one of the fastest in the NV with the power of the EIG. However, his mastery of the EIG isn't up to his sensei's level, so it is obvious that he would not be as quick, though he is sure to be one of the top contenders in the speed department.

Zetsu:

Zetsus unusual ability to meld in to the trees grants him a transportation ability not unlike Obito's and it allows him to traverse through terrain very quickly, though it is noted to not be quite as fast as Obito's jutsu itself. It has great potential, but the amount of time it takes for him to meld with the environment makes it almost usless in battle, especially against other top tier speedster that are mentioned above him.
 
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