Minato vs. Current Sakura

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Sakura wins. The only arguments anyone could possibly make for Minato will 100% pertain to his speed or FTG because he has nothing else going for him beyond those two things. Anyone that has read the manga without bias against Sakura can tell you that those two things wouldn't be offensively effective against Sakura due to her speed & reactionary abilities having better portrayal than Minato's, who's became largely irrelevant in the face of Juubi Jins. Minato has no durability feats whatsoever as well, so 1 punch alone should put him down or severely injure him at least if we're being strict.

I give it mid-diff since FTG allows him to pull back at almost any given moment.

How relevant was sakura against the juubi jins in combat though?

Also, legit question, but is there any actual instance where she’s been able to nail someone with a ces punch in an actual cqc exchange? She’s got him best 100 fold in punching power when she can wind up... but umm... what’s she gonna hit with a lunge punch? If she had means of securing her opponent with her own jutsu that would up her one on one capabilities quite a bit... but any instance we see of her landing hits close range mid exchange are always normal. For all of everyone’s one trick pony talk of minato, Sakuras pretty much the same. The worlds best healing ability coupled with the series’ smallest offensive arsenal usually ends up with some realistically boring matches and ways to win them(outlasting mainly)

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

How relevant was sakura against the juubi jins in combat though?

That's not the deciding factor. The deciding factor is that Minato loses body parts when he gets near Juubi Jin level fighters & that Sakura forces a defensive reaction or makes them lose a part. The portrayal of her stats are simply better & these stats are the biggest concerns when wondering whether or not Sakura can land a counterattack on Minato or evade one.

How relevant was sakura against the juubi jins in combat though?

Also, legit question, but is there any actual instance where she’s been able to nail someone with a ces punch in an actual cqc exchange? She’s got him best 100 fold in punching power when she can wind up... but umm... what’s she gonna hit with a lunge punch? If she had means of securing her opponent with her own jutsu that would up her one on one capabilities quite a bit... but any instance we see of her landing hits close range mid exchange are always normal. For all of everyone’s one trick pony talk of minato, Sakuras pretty much the same. The worlds best healing ability coupled with the series’ smallest offensive arsenal usually ends up with some realistically boring matches and ways to win them(outlasting mainly)

No. By the point she had these levels of speed, she was tied up with joint efforts or just tackling dudes.

 

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That's not the deciding factor. The deciding factor is that Minato loses body parts when he gets near Juubi Jin level fighters & that Sakura forces a defensive reaction or makes them lose a part. The portrayal of her stats are simply better & these stats are the biggest concerns when wondering whether or not Sakura can land a counterattack on Minato or evade one.

Lmao, indeed. The deciding factor is edos attacking more recklessly to gauge for the non edo combatants.......it’s literally mentioned why the kage are attacking the way they where. (The first arm anyhow, he lost the second one legitly cause he got hard countered nasty)

Also... what body parts did sakura make juubi jin lose? The horn? Is kakashi gonna be here for this fight to give her a plan and a platform to hide on too?

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

Lmao, indeed. The deciding factor is edos attacking more recklessly to gauge for the non edo combatants.......it’s literally mentioned why the kage are attacking the way they where.

Also... what body parts did sakura make juubi jin lose? The horn? Is kakashi gonna be here for this fight to give her a plan and a platform to hide on too?

@Bold, you've forgotten that Minato learned his lesson against Obito real quick. By the time he attacked 1-Eyed Madara, he was well aware of the threat posed. In fact, every single edo emphasized on using clones the moment they learned of the erasure.

Lmao, indeed. The deciding factor is edos attacking more recklessly to gauge for the non edo combatants.......it’s literally mentioned why the kage are attacking the way they where. (The first arm anyhow, he lost the second one legitly cause he got hard countered nasty)

Way to nullify your own point. Sakura put an improved Madara on the defensive while a rod was restricting her.


@Red, yes. Kakashi hid Sakura from a Byakugan user. Even if Kakashi had successfully hidden Sakura, Sakura still had to land the hit after being noticed against someone who could avoid attacks that show up nigh instantly. That's still a speed feat.

 

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@Bold, you've forgotten that Minato learned his lesson against Obito real quick. By the time he attacked 1-Eyed Madara, he was well aware of the threat posed. In fact, every single edo emphasized on using clones the moment they learned of the erasure.

Way to nullify your own point. Sakura put an improved Madara on the defensive while a rod was restricting her.


@Red, yes. Kakashi hid Sakura from a Byakugan user. Even if Kakashi had successfully hidden Sakura, Sakura still had to land the hit after being noticed against someone who could avoid attacks that show up nigh instantly. That's still a speed feat.

Avoid where? Left or right to naruto and sasuke with the seals? Or down to kakashi who just beat her ass? Lol it’s amazing how much is forgotten when sakura is involved.... again did you see the rest of the panels besides the one where sakura lands the hit?


Also don’t get the madara deal, he had to react defensively to both...

So Sakuras hit is a speed feat now? You watched it right? Cause if thats a speed feat to you then we have 2 complete different definitions of speed for the series and your better off circle jerking with your buddies, ciao

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

Avoid where? Left or right to naruto and sasuke with the seals? Or down to kakashi who just beat her ass? Lol it’s amazing how much is forgotten when sakura is involved.... again did you see the rest of the panels besides the one where sakura lands the hit?


Also don’t get the madara deal, he had to react defensively to both...

So Sakuras hit is a speed feat now? You watched it right? Cause if thats a speed feat to you then we have 2 complete different definitions of speed for the series and your better off circle jerking with your buddies, ciao

@Bold, conveniently forgetting her insane flight. It'd be a matter of veering into the sky diagonally or faster than Sakura could strike.

@Red, no he didn't. Madara was capable of severing Minato's arms effectively making a defense unnecessary.

@Blue, yes. It's a speed feat unless you think a descant from gravity with a net velocity of a split second of gravity pulling her down is quick enough to catch Kaguya. Kaguya, who dodged a chidori from Sasuke after he Ameno'ed right onside her head. What made Sakura so quick was her forcing her feet against what remained of the Susanoo(you can see the soundeffects) and dashing downward.

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@Bold, conveniently forgetting her insane flight. It'd be a matter of veering into the sky diagonally or faster than Sakura could strike.

@Red, no he didn't. Madara was capable of severing Minato's arms effectively making a defense unnecessary.

@Blue, yes. It's a speed feat unless you think a descant from gravity with a net velocity of a split second of gravity pulling her down is quick enough to catch Kaguya. Kaguya, who dodged a chidori from Sasuke after he Ameno'ed right onside her head. What made Sakura so quick was her forcing her feet against what remained of the Susanoo(you can see the soundeffects) and dashing downward.

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Your madara thing is again pointless, he had to do something both times, don’t know what your reaching for here. You act as if he couldn’t do anything else to sakura if he wanted to

Again, I don’t recall kaguya avoiding 3 other people at once while avoiding sasukes chidori.... your creating similar situations where there are none. Let’s not forget she was going up already, it’s not like sakura had to “speed” all the way down.. come on now

 

[Mellanoma]

People still give Sakura 0 respect.

Minato's strongest ability is part 1 Rasengan that Obito tanked with his spine lol.

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

Your madara thing is again pointless, he had to do something both times, don’t know what your reaching for here. You act as if he couldn’t do anything else to sakura if he wanted to

Again, I don’t recall kaguya avoiding 3 other people at once while avoiding sasukes chidori.... your creating similar situations where there are none. Let’s not forget she was going up already, it’s not like sakura had to “speed” all the way down.. come on now

@Bold, he certainly couldn't sever her arms given her striking speed.

@Green, Naruto and Sasuke were only coming from the left and right, Kaguya could have flew upward in ANY direction once

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. More or less combatants do not take away from the fact that Kaguya couldn't avoid Sakura once out of the reach of all but one. Even if Kaguya could not think straight the chick was in a literal fight or flight reaction, & flight apparently was not enough despite it entailing her attempting to avoid everything possible.

@Blue. Are we really going to ignore how close Sasuke was to Kaguya when Kaguya evaded his attack?

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Kaguya has shown the ability to make ridiculous movement in razor thin margins of time. The distance Sakura had when Kaguya noticed vs the distance Sasuke had is clearly more as well.

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Hell, all Kaguya would've had to do would've been to tilt her head a bit when Sakura's arm began extending or change her trajectory by a few inches seeing how Sakura's punch was a straight one that wasn't covering any more area than a few inches right of her fist. She couldn't do that little in the face of Sakura's speed despite her own capabilities. That is a speed feat.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

People still give Sakura 0 respect.

Minato's strongest ability is part 1 Rasengan that Obito tanked with his spine lol.

I didn’t realize a rasengan was stronger than a tbb but we learn something new everyday.

I love the variety argument tho, it works well with sakura doesn’t it? Seeing as how she has one offensive jutsu, and it’s supplemental.

 

[salamander uchiha]

People still give Sakura 0 respect.

Minato's strongest ability is part 1 Rasengan that Obito tanked with his spine lol.

It's Minato fanboys and Sakura haters/underaters. Even though she's not 1 of my favs I still give credit where it's due.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

@Bold, he certainly couldn't sever her arms given her striking speed.

@Green, Naruto and Sasuke were only coming from the left and right, Kaguya could have flew upward in ANY direction once

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. More or less combatants do not take away from the fact that Kaguya couldn't avoid Sakura once out of the reach of all but one. Even if Kaguya could not think straight the chick was in a literal fight or flight reaction, & flight apparently was not enough despite it entailing her attempting to avoid everything possible.

@Blue. Are we really going to ignore how close Sasuke was to Kaguya when Kaguya evaded his attack?

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Kaguya has shown the ability to make ridiculous movement in razor thin margins of time. The distance Sakura had when Kaguya noticed vs the distance Sasuke had is clearly more as well.

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Hell, all Kaguya would've had to do would've been to tilt her head a bit when Sakura's arm began extending or change her trajectory by a few inches seeing how Sakura's punch was a straight one that wasn't covering any more area than a few inches right of her fist. She couldn't do that little in the face of Sakura's speed despite her own capabilities. That is a speed feat.

You do realize she doesn’t notice sakura until after she’s already flown up right? It’s Right to left dude, your like the third person I’ve had to tell this, ironically the other 2 happen to be close buddies of yours. Like people can’t have a debate when what’s in the manga is being stretched and bended every which way, sure dude, sakura>nv

Imagine if this kind stretch of imagination was used for any other character in the series... apparently she’s the only that needs it

Like I’ve seen what everyone says about minato, but no one in this thread has happened to mention how sakura beats him, with a punch? Does she wait him out? Does she take a lil time out to formulate a plan? Just use byakugo and go? I’m curious. What does she do about bm? Tbbs? Sm? Yea novel says she survived one, from a low rate source, what about a full one from an actual jinc? How’s she get in without getting marked? What’s she do once is? She has to hit him to put him down, meaning she’s getting in his cqc range at some point

Sakuras punch is a nasty one shot, but when in the entirety of this series has she landed one without assistance? That’s how it works. You use someone else to distract, and use her insane strength for the ko. Reread the fights she actually hits someone with her haymakers like shin. This is great in an all out battle, but a one on one kind makes that difficult. Especially when the dude your fighting can disappear in an instant, and has also reacted fast enough with it to escape another s/t that no one else has(bar kakashi, cause kamui)

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

You do realize she doesn’t notice sakura until after she’s already flown up right? It’s Right to left dude, your like the third person I’ve had to tell this, ironically the other 2 happen to be close buddies of yours. Like people can’t have a debate when what’s in the manga is being stretched and bended every which way, sure dude, sakura>nv

Imagine if this kind stretch of imagination was used for any other character in the series... apparently she’s the only that needs it

Like I’ve seen what everyone says about minato, but no one in this thread has happened to mention how sakura beats him, with a punch? Does she wait him out? Does she take a lil time out to formulate a plan? Just use byakugo and go? I’m curious. What does she do about bm? Tbbs? Sm? Yea novel says she survived one, from a low rate source, what about a full one from an actual jinc? How’s she get in without getting marked? What’s she do once is? She has to hit him to put him down, meaning she’s getting in his cqc range at some point

Sakuras punch is a nasty one shot, but when in the entirety of this series has she landed one without assistance? That’s how it works. You use someone else to distract, and use her insane strength for the ko. Reread the fights she actually hits someone with her haymakers like shin. This is great in an all out battle, but a one on one kind makes that difficult. Especially when the dude your fighting can disappear in an instant, and has also reacted fast enough with it to escape another s/t that no one else has(bar kakashi, cause kamui)

Self explanatory.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

Self explanatory.

Of course it is it is delicious isn’t it

 

[Mellanoma]

side note from infiniteMugen despra attempts:

The moment Kakashi realized he's the greatest teacher in the history of teaching lol

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side note from infiniteMugen despra attempts:

The moment Kakashi realized he's the greatest teacher in the history of teaching lol

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So pointing out what actually happened is desperate? Sounds about right for nb

 

[Jinrou]

You tell I'm right then you say it's a "bs opinion".

Do you see the irony in that?

Like I said, chill. Be calm. Refrain from insults.

Debate in a civilized manner.

I can't argue against such incredible superior bs logic so i conceded. What else do you want man lol.. Not replying you on this again bro.

You do realize she doesn’t notice sakura until after she’s already flown up right? It’s Right to left dude, your like the third person I’ve had to tell this, ironically the other 2 happen to be close buddies of yours. Like people can’t have a debate when what’s in the manga is being stretched and bended every which way, sure dude, sakura>nv

Imagine if this kind stretch of imagination was used for any other character in the series... apparently she’s the only that needs it

Like I’ve seen what everyone says about minato, but no one in this thread has happened to mention how sakura beats him, with a punch? Does she wait him out? Does she take a lil time out to formulate a plan? Just use byakugo and go? I’m curious. What does she do about bm? Tbbs? Sm? Yea novel says she survived one, from a low rate source, what about a full one from an actual jinc? How’s she get in without getting marked? What’s she do once is? She has to hit him to put him down, meaning she’s getting in his cqc range at some point

Sakuras punch is a nasty one shot, but when in the entirety of this series has she landed one without assistance? That’s how it works. You use someone else to distract, and use her insane strength for the ko. Reread the fights she actually hits someone with her haymakers like shin. This is great in an all out battle, but a one on one kind makes that difficult. Especially when the dude your fighting can disappear in an instant, and has also reacted fast enough with it to escape another s/t that no one else has(bar kakashi, cause kamui)

lol true.. These days at least, the arguments for Sakura in a 1v1 matchup is the fanfic "sHE's aS fAsT as RiKUDo nARdO and sAUcE" Hilarious tbh

 

[MissingFUCKINGnin]

Minato has kakashi level chakra reserves and isn't very fast without ftg. Even with it he still needs to mark an opponent or get close a shock wave punch will displace any Kunai. If full knowledge is involved then Minato doesn't have his supreme attack edge which is the major benefit of the FTG. He loses mid to high difficulty.

cmon man./.. even with full knowledge minato blitzes & lops her head off with FTG sakura cant react... if this isnt enough for you then he shitblitzes sakura in KCM2 mode with spacetime rasengan

She was keeping pace with RSM Naruto; whereas Minato was blitzed by an inexperienced Juubito in his KCM Cloak. I think the result between them confronting is clear. Not to mention, she has an extreme level of natural perception as she read Sasori like a book and Minato would end up the same; as all of his maneuvers which consist primarily of FTG tricks, would be read through, rendering them useless. Meanwhile, a single strike indirectly towards the ground is enough to defeat him through the resulting shockwave. He has nothing to say he'll evade.

Whats up with this wank???????????

Sakura didnt read shit, chiyo raised sasori and knew all his shit & was puppeting sakura... as far as keeping up with RSM naruto thats just dry rub wank to the point of chaffing. she simply isnt as fast as RSM naruto and you know this..

Minato negs sakura hard :elmo:

He flings several kunai around her general area , blitzes her in a vortext between the FTG marked kunai and rams a rasengan in her face

 

[Kakooli]

This what happen

Minato: kunai ftg no jutsu!!!!!
*minato scatter kunai around*
Sakura then shinra tensei punch kunai into space/lava something dangerous and minato teleports into space and dies instantly

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no offense for minato fans but compare guy who lose to bobito with girl who defeat kaguya is a bad logick......

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

I think this thread is concluded. Pretty much all are in favor of Sakura. There's been 1 Minato fan running around disliking everything but he's yet to bring up counterpoints, Infinite has been scared off, & we'd rather not dogpile the last guy lest he actually goes missing.