minato nammikaze vs jiraiya

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pain,madaa, sasuke, naruto,itachi,>minato=overated. i like minato and hes in my top 5 favs but he overated to much.
I just don't see how some of those people would be able to hit him. Also Minato is better because he doesn't rely on other people powering him up, yeah i'm looking at you Sasuke and Naruto and Madara. In a real fight I think only Pain or Madara has a better chance of winning than Minato. Itachi is close but there are too many of his jutsus that become useless against speed. Sasuke and Naruto on the other hand only have a chance against Minato because of Itachi and Minato respectively and even then he is smarter than them and knows a lot more about sealing, shape manipulation, TS jutsu, and probably everything.
 

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Minato rapes. Activaing Hermit mode takes Jiraiya too much time, he would be long dead before managing that, and without it he dont stand a chance.
 

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and its true that jiraya is minatos trainer. but none of minatos moves were taught by jiraya. you dont see jiraya going around using ftg do you. as for rasengan minato invented that. also, jiraya does not have the speed that minato has. it makes me question what jiraya DID teach minato

as for the itachi/pain/sasuke etc thing. stoppit. they have nothing to do with this thread. it is specifically minato vs jiraya.

the person who said minato beat tobi. no minato has never met tobi. he has met madara and madara gave him a hard ass time. he also immediately after forcing madara to make a run for it sealed the kyuubi inside nartuo therefore defeating it.
 
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in narutos current bijou form he woulda taken pain out but not w just sage mode, but its pointless to talk about this kinda crap anyways. theres always factors not accounted for in a fight n the stronget person doesnt always win period, oh n i think minato would rip jman a new one by the way.
 

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and its true that jiraya is minatos trainer. but none of minatos moves were taught by jiraya. you dont see jiraya going around using ftg do you. as for rasengan minato invented that. also, jiraya does not have the speed that minato has. it makes me question what jiraya DID teach minato

as for the itachi/pain/sasuke etc thing. stoppit. they have nothing to do with this thread. it is specifically minato vs jiraya.

the person who said minato beat tobi. no minato has never met tobi. he has met madara and madara gave him a hard ass time. he also immediately after forcing madara to make a run for it sealed the kyuubi inside nartuo therefore defeating it.

a little of toppic but

Teaching someone on naruto world is not only about teaching jutsus ... we can see alot of senseis that don't teach any jutsu to the students, but teach other stuff, like chakra control (kakashi with sasuke, sakura and naruto), strategies (asuma and shikamaru) and help them improving their own jutsus (like kakashi helping naruto adding fuuton to rasengan) ... and so on

And i can tell you that Jiraiya teached at least one jutsu to Minato .... Kuchyose no Jutsu (Summoning Jutsu) xd
 

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Stop! Counter Time!!!---- Oru was suppose to become the 4th hokage till saru saw he was a bit sick, jman was suppose to become the 4th hokage but declined it because he dont want to be..he also thought the child that would change the world was aslo nagato and naruto so dont bring that up pls, he defeated a weak tobi (fact) that didnt even fight back. raikage thought he could not be surpassed by speed not overalll ninja, jman and alot other ninjas are feared world wide more then him (3 sannin, white fang, A & B, all kages, Kin Gin Bros, kakashi, 7 swordsman, etc etc. so whats your point?).

there are far better legends that did way more then him. but you are not a true naruto fan i can tell and do not realise this. he did not win against tobi and the kyubi, who is dead and who is alive?????...... plus tobi didnt even have to use izanagi on minatos weak all powerful rasengan.lmao wake up kid, and reread the whole manga pls..... smh
Now listen to me u, all of these guys are out of minatos league and you are the one who is not a true fan, u should learn some respect, are u blind to c that minato is placed on a Pedestal throughout the whole manga,yellow flash the most revered throughout the whole thing and before the whole series is finished ur mouth will be stopped. And yea Jiriah thought pain and naruto could also be the promise child, Y? because they were far stronger than him, and u r giving him no props for fighting the kubi and madara in one night and he didn't youth ! he sacrificed himself huh! Naruto in 4th tail = jiriah almost dead, u are the 1 who should go and re-read, What do we know of madara powers um! ,speed pretty much and he beaten at his own weaken or not, minato is the fastest shinobi in the whole anime. Get serious man how many shinobi can take on the 9 tailed fox on their own,oro and jeriah took on 4tails minato all 9, plus the death reaper seal,plus inhumain speed, minato is king dont be biased. And finally if ull aint saved remember Jesus loves ya!!
 

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I just don't see how some of those people would be able to hit him. Also Minato is better because he doesn't rely on other people powering him up, yeah i'm looking at you Sasuke and Naruto and Madara. In a real fight I think only Pain or Madara has a better chance of winning than Minato. Itachi is close but there are too many of his jutsus that become useless against speed. Sasuke and Naruto on the other hand only have a chance against Minato because of Itachi and Minato respectively and even then he is smarter than them and knows a lot more about sealing, shape manipulation, TS jutsu, and probably everything.
yea but still, with naruto and sasuke current form, they would destroy minato,and for itachi vs mianto, if 4th raikage could figure out a way to beat minato ftg(if killer bee wasnt there his method would of worked) itachi can to,itachi is a genius and i cant see minato and his abilities we hve seen so far beating itachi at all, or pain
 

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Now listen to me u, all of these guys are out of minatos league and you are the one who is not a true fan, u should learn some respect, are u blind to c that minato is placed on a Pedestal throughout the whole manga,yellow flash the most revered throughout the whole thing and before the whole series is finished ur mouth will be stopped. And yea Jiriah thought pain and naruto could also be the promise child, Y? because they were far stronger than him, and u r giving him no props for fighting the kubi and madara in one night and he didn't youth ! he sacrificed himself huh! Naruto in 4th tail = jiriah almost dead, u are the 1 who should go and re-read, What do we know of madara powers um! ,speed pretty much and he beaten at his own weaken or not, minato is the fastest shinobi in the whole anime. Get serious man how many shinobi can take on the 9 tailed fox on their own,oro and jeriah took on 4tails minato all 9, plus the death reaper seal,plus inhumain speed, minato is king dont be biased. And finally if ull aint saved remember Jesus loves ya!!
naruto, sasuke.madara,itachi,hashirama,pain can take on the 9 tails
 

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Naruto did in his mind almost lost if is was not for Kushina, madara can because of his eyes so too sasuke,hashirama had some special powers he controled man tailed beast, pain was pushed to his limit fighting the 8th tails.But good post, only name missing there is JIRIAH
 

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yea but still, with naruto and sasuke current form, they would destroy minato,and for itachi vs mianto, if 4th raikage could figure out a way to beat minato ftg(if killer bee wasnt there his method would of worked) itachi can to,itachi is a genius and i cant see minato and his abilities we hve seen so far beating itachi at all, or pain
I agree that Naruto and probably Sasuke would have a pretty good shot at beating Minato the majority of the time but that is only because they were given their powerups by other people, Naruto from Minato and Sasuke from Itachi and Oro and Madara.

However I disagree with you when you said that A would have been able to beat Minato, he can put those seals on anything he touches so he could just teleport wherever and plus his normal speed is already insane in the membrane. And A would never have been able to get to the point that he would come to a strategy (even one that probably wouldn't work) because Minato had A pegged in the beginning and only Bee being there saved him from being killed. That is why A thanks him afterwards.

As to the Itachi comment, well there are ample ways either of them could win. The only thing Itachi really has on Minato is genjutsu and his Susanoo as defense. The only things Minato has against Itachi are more chakra (thus being able to outlast his Susanoo), and FTG level 2 (where he puts a seal on a person) if he can get it in before Susanoo goes up, and his normal speed to evade Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi requires eye contact but how are they going to make eye contact if he can't see Minato? So really most of the time I see a stalemate happening between the two of them.

Same basically goes for Pain v. Minato, Minato might be able to take out some of the Paths fairly easily but if he fought all of them at once then he would just be evading the entire time, unless he can summon Ma and Pa and get them ready for their sound genjutsu while he keeps them safe. I mean there obviously is more to him than we are aware but I can't say what it would be so I see this coming out to be a draw as well because Minato can just teleport away from danger, (by the way he can use TS techniques without FTG or seals on stuff it just requires hand seals then). So yeah I think most of the time they would come out fairly even just because neither can seriously damage the other (unless Minato has alot more to him, which he probably does but I'm not going to randomly guess about it).
 
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Um I'm not so sure if there are more people that are feared more than Minato. It is obvious you aren't being impartial at all because you hate Minato. You just listed a bunch of people that in no way can be compared to Minato. Kakashi and the seven swordsmen? Really? And every kage is feared more than Minato? we saw him boss over Bee and A at the same time. I never saw the Sannin get a flee on sight ordered about them. You just hate Minato because Kishi made him too strong and so you bash him wherever possible.

So like you tell other people go read the manga because you are insulting people when you are saying ridiculous things and posting lies.

Unless you want to be civil and realistic please don't respond and waste my time. I read the manga, probably more than anyone else on here and I know almost everything about it so don't tell me to "go read the manga"
i see what your saying but people be getting ridiculous saying that pain doesnt come close to minato. i mean pain destroyed not one village but two villages.
 
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