Masashi Kishimoto contradicting Naruto's original Character

[mohdsubhan08]

Supa, your statements really have no grounds. Reasons being:

1) Fictional work. Anything can happen and anything will happen. Logic doesn't work the same way as non fictional works.

2) As Caliburn said, its character development. Weak becomes strong. Theres nothing wrong with that

3)The story IS about him...Not Konoha, not any other elements in the story. It revolves around him, so it will show his life

4)There is no stated time and date at every episode. It does not tell you the chronological events that happened in Naruto's world. So therefore what is 1 month, can really be a year in Naruto's world...The author will not write out events that happened every single day. Same goes for almost all fictional works. If he was to write out or draw out events that happened every day, im sure the current episode would probably be in the 1000000+ mark.

5) Its just a comic...if u have enough time to analyze who or what is contradicting...make better use of your time. Have fun reading it. Period.

 

[kickassjutsu]

if you hate the idea of naruto being all powerful, then dbz and goku must of really sucked for you.

 

[Kranium]

I'm referring to Naruto's original character (Part l) that was deemed an underdog, which completely switched in Shippuden (Part ll) as he's learnt powerful jutsu (Sage Mode, Kyubi Mode) in days while it took Jiraiya and Killer Bee years.

Also, the Uzumaki Clan being related to the Uchiha Clan is Kishi's Plot-no-Jutsu to make Naruto and Sasuke's battle part of the Chain of Hatred.

Dude it has been said a thousand times that Naruto learns at 1000x faster than the average ninja...........geesh man get off his tip and there was no timeline stating it happened in a month so again HOP OFF HIS TIP!!!!

Are you forgetting all of those years with Orochimaru training? He got Rasen Shuriken, yet it only took Rasengan to defeat Deva Path -_- He then got Kyubi Mode so he can match Sasuke's EMS, lol.

I know what Kishi is trying to do. OP these two to the max.

Dude did you forget that Deva Pain fought 6-tailed naruto right before AND created a Chibaku Tensei!!!! Dumb Broads i tell you

 

[Avani]

Supa, your statements really have no grounds. Reasons being:

1) Fictional work. Anything can happen and anything will happen. Logic doesn't work the same way as non fictional works.

2) As Caliburn said, its character development. Weak becomes strong. Theres nothing wrong with that

3)The story IS about him...Not Konoha, not any other elements in the story. It revolves around him, so it will show his life

4)There is no stated time and date at every episode. It does not tell you the chronological events that happened in Naruto's world. So therefore what is 1 month, can really be a year in Naruto's world...The author will not write out events that happened every single day. Same goes for almost all fictional works. If he was to write out or draw out events that happened every day, im sure the current episode would probably be in the 1000000+ mark.

5) Its just a comic...if u have enough time to analyze who or what is contradicting...make better use of your time. Have fun reading it. Period.

+Rep.

Naruto has matured in last years. He has travelled around with a great sensei Jiraiya. Had more than one teacher- Jiraiya, kakashi, yamato, even Asuma gave him tips to control Wind element, Bee, Toads and so on. Met many great people. Made great friends. Saw a lot. Experienced a lot and matured accordingly. That's how the story goes and it is his story. Deal with it.

 

[allmightysage]

ive read only 2 pages of this tread and all i can say is supa your being an ass! its not like naruto is a nobody and is getting these powers out of no where 1 lets see o yeah he does have the 9tales in him which is what help activate the rikudo mode and he is being trained by the perfect jinchuriki b. and his pops was supposed to get surpassed he didnt have the ninetales in him if he did he would have been the strongest ever so what is your point. you wanna continue seeing naruto keep getting beat pkay kool go watch the 1st part when he was a kid with no skill naruto has been developed into a full fledge ninja so quit complaining..

 

[The Rinnegan]

Supa everything you are saying is incorrect. Naruto is not arrogant u are arrogant by not listening to others views which are correct.

 

[Supa]

Your missing the main point of his development from part 1 to part 2 your correct in some aspects but i think kishi is trying to portray that he was always a genius just a little dense and all he needed to do was put the hard work in to master what those before him had failed at in a far quicker manner.

And his power didn't come out of no where he trained like crazy to learn his wind nature and he worked like hell to master rasengan same with rasenshuriken also the same with sage mode and tailed beast mode if anyone hasn't worked for there power it's sasuke he was given his most deadly techniques that have constantly saved his ass many times so far where as naruto created his most deadly technique i have no idea what manga you have been reading maybe you need to go back and have another read because your misinformed

The fact of the matter is Naruto continues to get OP, whereas other characters needed lifetimes to finish those techs.

Naruto? Arrogant?... Whatever floats your boat.
There are no contradictions. Kishi intended for Naruto to be an underdog at the start of the series and become stronger as he grew and then earn the respect he has now. That's pretty much the basic plot; Naruto's journey.



I don't think "giving" is the right word to use here but again, whatever floats you boat. Naruto worked for everything he has now right? Or have you been skipping all those training scenes and rushing to the fights? Admittedly Sasuke worked hard when he was younger but since Shippuden came round, his powers seem to just keep "popping" up.

He's been working 'hard' for 2days to gain powers that people would need years to master..

i see where supa is going with this, for having naruto learn sage mode in just acouple of days, and kyuubi chakra form. its like kishi lost intrested in naruto and just wants to call it quits.

Exactly. I'm not hating on Naruto, but he's having unrealistic power-ups and bloodline powers.

 

[Sageofthepath]

He's been working 'hard' for 2days to gain powers that people would need years to master..

When????

Maybe you don't understand time skip?

Bloodline powers, Naruto???

Are you reading the manga as me.....



p.s.: you know it exist an edit button to avoid spamming threads with triple posting

 

[Supa]

When????

Maybe you don't understand time skip?

Bloodline powers, Naruto???

Are you reading the manga as me.....



p.s.: you know it exist an edit button to avoid spamming threads with triple posting

I'm referring to Sage Mode, Rasengan, Kyubi Mode.

Bloodline powers: Uzumaki Clan's enormous chakra.

If you think about it actually, the Uzumaki Clan being related to Sasuke's Clan came out of nowhere: The Chain of Hatred thing. Another bullshit Plot-no-Jutsu by Kishi.

Supa everything you are saying is incorrect. Naruto is not arrogant u are arrogant by not listening to others views which are correct.

Naruto isn't arrogant? Then he's naive.
He thinks going to war is going to save his friends, but does not look at the bigger picture; THE WORLD.

 

[Sageofthepath]

xcept for kyubi which we don't know how long he got on that island ... but surely not that long...
Sage mode he trained for about a month of intensive training stop by Pa being worned out

Rasengan well he trained pretty and you have to understand there's a diffenrece between the 4th needing 3 years to CREATED rasengan and Ero senin "teaching" it to naruto in less than 2 week.

and Naive would fit better to Naruto than arrogant

p.s.: edit button

 

[Supa]

xcept for kyubi which we don't know how long he got on that island ... but surely not that long...
Sage mode he trained for about a month of intensive training stop by Pa being worned out

Rasengan well he trained pretty and you have to understand there's a diffenrece between the 4th needing 3 years to CREATED rasengan and Ero senin "teaching" it to naruto in less than 2 week.

and Naive would fit better to Naruto than arrogant

p.s.: edit button

He's been on the island for two weeks and accomplished Kyubi-Mode, whereas Killer Bee took years. No, he completed Sage Mode in days, whereas Jiraiya took many years and didn't even master it. He trained hard for Rasengan? No, he mastered that quicker than both Kakashi, Jiraiya, and Minato (creator).

 

[kickassjutsu]

well we havent see the 9 tails power, so were really not sure what naruto is capable of, he must be a bad ass, because he didn't even attemp to move the second time he was gonna get punched, and it doesn't look like the war is headed in a good direction, so maybe its time to pull out all the card (naruto,Bee). any ways arrogant no, determined and confident hell yes.

 

[Sageofthepath]

He's been on the island for two weeks and accomplished Kyubi-Mode, whereas Killer Bee took years. No, he completed Sage Mode in days, whereas Jiraiya took many years and didn't even master it. He trained hard for Rasengan? No, he mastered that quicker than both Kakashi, Jiraiya, and Minato (creator).

WOw you're incredible

He sure get it quickly but he have been training sage for a month

and you might not have noticed but creating something always take more time than learning it from someelse
+ Naruto ahve a higher stamina meaning he have extend our of practice like 18 hour on 24

anyway trying to make you understand this seem to be like trying to teach a pinguoin to use a fork

 

[Supa]

well we havent see the 9 tails power, so were really not sure what naruto is capable of, he must be a bad ass, because he didn't even attemp to move the second time he was gonna get punched, and it doesn't look like the war is headed in a good direction, so maybe its time to pull out all the card (naruto,Bee). any ways arrogant no, determined and confident hell yes.

If Naruto somehow changes Kyubi, the series will become very dull. The first punch he got knocked out of balance, and if Raikage was in Level 2.0, Naruto would have been seriously hurt. Why would you pull out Bee and Naruto if the entire point of the Shinobi Allied Nations was to protect them? He is very arrogant/naive if he wants to protect just his pals, but doesn't look at the bigger picture: The ****ing Shinobi World.

WOw you're incredible

He sure get it quickly but he have been training sage for a month

and you might not have noticed but creating something always take more time than learning it from someelse
+ Naruto ahve a higher stamina meaning he have extend our of practice like 18 hour on 24

anyway trying to make you understand this seem to be like trying to teach a pinguoin to use a fork

No, he took 3-5 days max training for Sage Mode, and completely mastered at that time. He has higher stamina because Kishi gave the Uzumaki Clan a bigger role in the series: Bloodline abilities, something Naruto's character was the opposite of in Part l. Naruto has higher stamina because of Kyubi and Uzumaki Clan.

 

[Sageofthepath]

as i said:anyway trying to make you understand this seem to be like trying to teach a pinguoin to use a fork

plus you really need to learn to do single post

 

[kickassjutsu]

If Naruto somehow changes Kyubi, the series will become very dull. The first punch he got knocked out of balance, and if Raikage was in Level 2.0, Naruto would have been seriously hurt. Why would you pull out Bee and Naruto if the entire point of the Shinobi Allied Nations was to protect them? He is very arrogant/naive if he wants to protect just his pals, but doesn't look at the bigger picture: The ****ing Shinobi World.

im more than sure when he says pals hes talking about every one fighting i don't think hes gonna do selective saving, im not saying he'll change the 9 tails mind, but hes narutos bitch and naruto has his powers at his dissposal. What world will there be if he doesn't do something about every thing, because we already know tobi is getting ready to use another form of the fox and eight tales to finish his plan, so yes he need to jump in the fight.

 

[Supa]

as i said:anyway trying to make you understand this seem to be like trying to teach a pinguoin to use a fork

plus you really need to learn to do single post

You being a Naruto Uzumaki fan is going to be hard for you to accept this, but Naruto has been OP since the Pein-arc, while Sasuke Uchiha has been OP since fighting Orochimaru.

Where am I getting with this? Naruto is mastering more powerful jutsu in a shorter amount of time; Unrealistic.

im more than sure when he says pals hes talking about every one fighting i don't think hes gonna do selective saving, im not saying he'll change the 9 tails mind, but hes narutos bitch and naruto has his powers at his dissposal. What world will there be if he doesn't do something about every thing, because we already know tobi is getting ready to use another form of the fox and eight tales to finish his plan, so yes he need to jump in the fight.

His pals are giving up their lives to preserve his safety, wouldn't it be a slap in the face to his friends if he thought they were that weak? The Kyubi is evil chakra basically, how can Naruto turn that good?

The point is: Neither Raikage, Tsunade, Bee, and Naruto knows this. A' is going by what he knew before he left, and that is Madara only needs two more Bijou before nobody can stop him.

 

[kickassjutsu]

You being a Naruto Uzumaki fan is going to be hard for you to accept this, but Naruto has been OP since the Pein-arc, while Sasuke Uchiha has been OP since fighting Orochimaru.

Where am I getting with this? Naruto is mastering more powerful jutsu in a shorter amount of time; Unrealistic.

well what makes for a better fight two weak duded that don't really know much or two over powered guys blowing shit up? eventually were gonna see naruto and sasuke fight, and yeah there getting strong really fast, and no one else isn't, but who care about any one else the manga isn't about them, and this is all working up to the epic battle of the emo, and the kid with ADHD, so sorry dude but that just the way its gonna be. im pretty sure they'll both have a humble moment where they are powerless against the 10 tailed beast, if madara realeses it.

 

[Universal Enlightenment]

Part l Naruto
Underrated by everyone
Wanted to become Hokage
Didn't have anything special (Kyubi was a curse)

Part ll Naruto
Fourth Hokage's son
Mastered SM in days, Jiraiya never mastered in 50+ years
Kyubi Mode
Uzumaki Clan (Plot-no-Jutsu) becoming related to Sasuke's clan so this Chain of Hatred thing can continue
Arrogant to the max; Child of Prophecy
Overpowered

Such contradictions!

Lmao you know if it was sasuke they surely would agree with you lol

 

[kingdondunga]

Ok if you are saying that kishi is just powering naruto to be at sasukes level and contradicting himself then what would you say about konohamaru because naruto taught konohamaru the rasengan and he learnt it quicker than naruto.

What about sasuke? How did he get so powerful in a short time as well? Naruto and Sasuke are powering up at the same ratewe have seen more of sasuke fight and more of naruto training. But konohamaru might be stronger than these guys if he picks things up this quickly.