[VS] Marco V Sabo

[chopstickchakra]

That's where I fail to understand. Why should we regard Marco as higher? He never done anything hurtful to an Admiral as well like Sabo...

Because his DF's defensive abilities allow him to stay in a fight against an Admiral longer. The Admirals he faced were in the middle of a war for their honor essentially, had they lost their reputation along with the Marines would be tarnished so they were fighting much harder than Fuji was against Sabo when Fuji didn't even want to fight anymore he wanted to let the SH's win so he had stopped fighting hard.

Just because the new Sanji has not clashed with an admiral or even met one we should assume that Kick was OP??? You seem to forget that Borsalino is a logia, 98% of times in the series Logia just simple watched/test you by tasting your attack. This was shown when Pekoms fodderised Caribou. He was tasting a Pekom punch which turned out to be >> what he expected

No because of who it was against and the depicted impact is why we should assume it was a very strong kick. Sanji was leg checked by Vergo post skip that tells me his kicks probably aren't as strong as Marco's were yet. I'm assuming EOS he will have a kick much stronger than anything we saw from Marco but right now I'm not sure he does.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Nah fam, I am saying Assumption = there is no scan in which a Marco kick was rumoured or shown to have a power >>> than Sanjis. I deal with scans, please don't turn into a Sensei Sama

1. Marco is stronger than Sanji. His kick sent two different Admirals flying backwards. That's a better feat than any Sanji has ever done.

2. That wasn't the point of my post. The point of my post was that an attack not being named doesn't mean it wasn't a serious attack. Luffy can throw a normal punch that's just as strong as any of his named punches, all that matters is the effort and strength he puts into it.

 

[HashiraMadara]

Because his DF's defensive abilities allow him to stay in a fight against an Admiral longer. The Admirals he faced were in the middle of a war for their honor essentially, had they lost their reputation along with the Marines would be tarnished so they were fighting much harder than Fuji was against Sabo when Fuji didn't even want to fight anymore he wanted to let the SH's win so he had stopped fighting hard.

That's where things fall apart :sdo: Ishho was never in that war :sdo: How can we assume he is = Kuzan or Borsalino. That's like saying all Admirals = Each other. You do remember that Kuzan >= 98% Akainu?

 

[A v i]

How can we possibly compare a characters named attack with an unnamed attack of another character? How does that even make sense? Not all characters use named attacks. Those who name their attacks usually have their unnamed attacks beneath their named attacks in terms of either power Or lethality. Oni take for example, is the stronger than any unnamed attack Vergo used throughout the entire arc. In case of people like Whitebeard, who doesn't name their attacks; We determine the level of an attack based on it's power output or amount of damage it can inflect to the opponent.

 

[chopstickchakra]

That's where things fall apart :sdo: Ishho was never in that war :sdo: How can we assume he is = Kuzan or Borsalino. That's like saying all Admirals = Each other. You do remember that Kuzan >= 98% Akainu?

What is this 98% Akainu you speak of? All Admirals are of a comparable strength yeah, they're not equal or else they'd just fight to a stand still and we know Akianu was able to get a win over Kuzan. DF abilities I think are what gives one Admiral the winning edge over the other; Magama melts ice, therefore Akainu is able to get the win despite being a similar power level. Similarly Fuji would beat Kizaru because of gravity's effect on light. I think Sabo fought the stronger Admiral of the two but his Admiral wasn't as serious as Marcos.

 

[HashiraMadara]

What is this 98% Akainu you speak of?

It's an estimate, seeing how both Admirals nearly died from the fight. I think it's not justifiable to put Kuzan < 95% of Akainu after what he pulled in punk hazard...

Similarly Fuji would beat Kizaru because of gravity's effect on light

You think Issho can create a gravity vortex >>> Earth????? WTF !!! How would the earth be even surviving his fruit if it can pull a "g" not escapable to even light :sdo:

 

[chopstickchakra]

It's an estimate, seeing how both Admirals nearly died from the fight. I think it's not justifiable to put Kuzan < 95% of Akainu after what he pulled in punk hazard...


You think Issho can create a gravity vortex >>> Earth????? WTF !!! How would the earth be even surviving his fruit if it can pull a "g" not escapable to even light :sdo:

There you go being like Riker using real life metrics to measure a manga with. Light bends around gravity, if a fight happened Issho would logically be able to use his gravity fields to disrupt Kizaru's attacks. You're talking about a black hole which would be closer to BB's fruit then Issho's.

 

[HashiraMadara]

There you go being like Riker using real life metrics to measure a manga with. Light bends around gravity, if a fight happened Issho would logically be able to use his gravity fields to disrupt Kizaru's attacks. You're talking about a black hole which would be closer to BB's fruit then Issho's.

Well any gravity pull less than the sun does not much noticeable difference to a light path, but then again Kizaru is not as fast as his DF is supposed to be :sdo: light is supposed to be >>> anything yet Rayleigh kept up with him

 

[Punk Hazard]

There you go being like Riker using real life metrics to measure a manga with. Light bends around gravity, if a fight happened Issho would logically be able to use his gravity fields to disrupt Kizaru's attacks. You're talking about a black hole which would be closer to BB's fruit then Issho's.

"Being like Riker" *****, lots of people do this. Why are you talking like I patented anything?

 

[HashiraMadara]

"Being like Riker" *****, lots of people do this. Why are you talking like I patented anything?

 

[chopstickchakra]

Well any gravity pull less than the sun does not much noticeable difference to a light path, but then again Kizaru is not as fast as his DF is supposed to be :sdo: light is supposed to be >>> anything yet Rayleigh kept up with him

Exactly because it's a work of fiction and real life metrics need not apply.

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"Being like Riker" *****, lots of people do this. Why are you talking like I patented anything?

Because I come across it the most with you and us 3 are involved in the discussion not the lots of other people, **** why you get so sensitive it wasn't even an insult simply an observation that he's starting to argue like you do.

 

[A v i]

In my opinion, Admirals are all more or less equally powerful as far as it concerns strength. A battle b/w two admirals would heavily depends on the kind of abilities they wield and how they fare against each other. They could also be highly circumstantial, As things such as; luck, intent, determination etc... could easily change the result of the battle. So, Akainu may win against Kuzan and lose against Kizaru, who may lose to Kuzan and so on...

You think Issho can create a gravity vortex >>> Earth????? WTF !!! How would the earth be even surviving his fruit if it can pull a "g" not escapable to even light :sdo:

The same as how Kizaru could move and/or kick people at light speed. We're talking about a fiction; In which, people can split heaven in half from a clash, survive a jump from a height of 10,000 meters, cause tremors, create black holes at whim....etc...Going by your logic, BB should logically destroy earth every time he pulls out a black hole.

 

[Bogard]

What does lightspeed and gravity have anything to do with Marco vs Sabo? :/
Either way theoritically Fujitora could be more dangerous than Kizaru
He just doesn't have his lvl of portrayal though

 

[Lawlermelon]

The first one doesn't matter when it takes Sabo 10 mins of at least half-serious effort to render Burgess incapable of continuing battle. Low diff is one or two moves with minimal attention.

Your logic sucks, *****. What condition the fighters are in at the end of the fight is what matters and Sabo didn't break a sweat. *****!

 

[sravan]

Both are good but i will go with this
marco will beat sabo(30-20)

I dont know why people are discussing about sabo vs burgess fight.sabo shit stomped burgess.burgess is just a punching bag in onepiece

 

[Hexuze]

Marco high diff.

 

[HashiraMadara]

I guess there is no def answer, it's a matter of who you feel would win :sdo:

 

[Souji]

How would Sabo be able to hurt Marco, if at all?

 

[HashiraMadara]

How would Sabo be able to hurt Marco, if at all?

How was Akainu able to hurt Sabo :sdo: by beating him up and tiring him to the point of "not being able to fully regenerate" same thing Vegeto did to Majin Buu :sdo:

The real question here: Is Sabo capable of those abilities :sdo: