Manga Factual claim: Naruto didn't learn any new jutsu on his own!

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Naruto did not physically move the Amateratsu. He extended it off using the cloak. He didn't wind his arm back and extend it. He merely leveled it away from his body (probably so it wouldn't spread) and removed amateratsu.
But you see what proves my point is the motion of the arm he is using to push off Ama. It is not a completely mental ability like chakra arms to use the physical claw of the Kyuubi.



If it was Kurama's paw made from his chakra, it would have the black lines. Or it would have the bubbly look, if it was like V1 cloak.

Also when Naruto used a Kurama paw in the past, it was still connected to his body in some way. That one isn't.

That can still be Naruto manipulating the wind with the swipe of his hand, causing it to have a hand or "claw" like appearance that moved in the same direction.

It's not a new jutsu. Just shape manipulation, which Naruto can already do.
We only saw the front of the paw in this picture. Look at the swiping motion Naruto is doing and look at the claw. The claws hand is facing frontward
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I think it's just too much of a coincidence the technique resembles a claw and then he activates BSM afterwards. Kishi should have at least given the technique a name if it was completely new.
 

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But you see what proves my point is the motion of the arm he is using to push off Ama. It is not a completely mental ability like chakra arms to use the physical claw of the Kyuubi.





We only saw the front of the paw in this picture. Look at the swiping motion Naruto is doing and look at the claw. The claws hand is facing frontward
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I think it's just too much of a coincidence the technique resembles a claw and then he activates BSM afterwards. Kishi should have at least given the technique a name if it was completely new.
There is no motion....
 

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We only saw the front of the paw in this picture. Look at the swiping motion Naruto is doing and look at the claw. The claws hand is facing frontward
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I think it's just too much of a coincidence the technique resembles a claw and then he activates BSM afterwards. Kishi should have at least given the technique a name if it was completely new.
It is a claw. And Naruto is doing a swiping motion.

But that still doesn't look like a paw made from Kurama's chakra, as it doesn't have the black lines or bubbles.

You seem so opposed to the idea that Naruto could do a basic shape manipulation on his own. Even though he already mastered the highest form of shape manipulation.
 

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top right show him moving his arm and amateratsu is still on him

top middle shows him using the cloak to remove it.... :|
So what's the problem? He extended his hand used kuramas chakra to remove it. Whenever he uses kuramas paws that aren't his chakra arms he moves his body....
 

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So what's the problem? He extended his hand used kuramas chakra to remove it. Whenever he uses kuramas paws that aren't his chakra arms he moves his body....
He moved it mentally. Amateratsu didn't go out when he physically moved his arm, he had to move it mentally off with the cloak



Which is the point I'm trying to make
 

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It is a claw. And Naruto is doing a swiping motion.

But that still doesn't look like a paw made from Kurama's chakra, as it doesn't have the black lines or bubbles.

You seem so opposed to the idea that Naruto could do a basic shape manipulation on his own. Even though he already mastered the highest form of shape manipulation.
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I'm not opposed to the idea but there is no proof naruto used a new jutsu which is what the OP was mostly about. Most of the proof points to NAruto using the kyuubi claw and imo it looks exactly like the chakra from the nine tails...
 

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It's possible that he just activated a partial cloak on his arm like what was done at the end of The Last in order to utilize a chakra arm. It could be that we don't see the visual glow on his arm/hand because of the motion blur that is indeed the case.
 

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He moved it mentally. Amateratsu didn't go out when he physically moved his arm, he had to move it mentally off with the cloak



Which is the point I'm trying to make
Yeah but 1st he had to extend his arm because that is the direction he wanted the chakra to go out. Plus you can't just deny this scan as well can you? They are all the same concept.

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Yeah but 1st he had to extend his arm because that is the direction he wanted the chakra to go out. Plus you can't just deny this scan as well can you? They are all the same concept.

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I'm not denying anything


Naruto always uses his hands to extend chakara arms. This scan doesn't disprove anything I'm saying. Naruto still mentally removed the cloak by extending the chakara just like he did with the arms
 

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I'm not denying anything


Naruto always uses his hands to extend chakara arms. This scan doesn't disprove anything I'm saying. Naruto still mentally removed the cloak by extending the chakara just like he did with the arms
Can you please reword this. I don't understand what you're saying
 

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So now Naruto can use Kurama in base? Lol boy oh boy, now we make up things to fit our baised agendas.

There is no chakra form or shape from that paw shaped technique, no bubbles, anything. It's a wind shaped paw, not surprising considering Naruto is a wind affinity user.
 

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I can argue that... it could just be freaking tails chakra, maybe he´s just learnt his way to be in the ninja world is spamming huge amounts of chakra like Madara but without techs.


I like Naruto but before rearranging the altar let´s wait for people in manga to describe his new stage of sanctity
 
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