[Manga approved] Kamui user can not snipe someone while staying itangible

[KCMNaruto]

i sense butthurt.
The manga shows that Obito can use Kamui from both eyes at the same time.

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and here Madara says, phasing is the unique ability of right eye(its not a wrap)

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so going intangible doesn't require Obito to focus with eye, he can go intangible even when he is not focusing. we can see here that Obito phased through Guy's kick from behind even though Obito wasn't looking.

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so we know intangibility has nothing to do with wrap
a wrap requires eye focus on a particular point.

Left eye can Open a portal at any place and does not require physical contact
Thus Obito can simply stay intangible with right eye and snipe(wrap) with left eye.

again and again you proved nothing.

1. Obito capable of using both Kamui is known

2. Phasing not being wrap and being unique abiltity of right eye is manga fact also

3. This is your assumption, why ? Simply because Kishi was still hiding Obito under disguise of Masked Man shinobi back then, so it isn't accurate as proof and has hardly any reason to use that. EVEN IF you was right it still doesn't counter anything.

My point shown by the manga itself is that Obito can not snipe while phasing as simple as that. The reason may be simple While Obito is using phasing abilty no matter if is passive or active ability it still uses eye so it can not be used for warps.

Conclusion: you proved nothing but repeated what manga has shown with adding your assumption in the end of your post.

Disagree with the OP. Kamui users pretty much can use both long & short range kamui at the same time.

No scan ? then please don't waste my precious time as I am not interested in baits or trolls replies.

So you're basing DMS feats on 1 MS feats? You just went full retard.

Wrap is wrap no matter if close or long ragne.The manga fact is absolute so stay mad. or show me scan of him using it while phasing.

I proved you wrong I explain how he has 3 kamui techs two in right an the left has one for the kaguya dimension he used long rang an short rang he using both abilities at the same time so he can long rang an short rang cause it coming from the left and right.

Nope you didn't prove me wrong it is just your wish and opinion.

Obito being able to use both eyes separately or using them at the same time doesn't prove your point. Intangibility is mysterious ability which may work on complete different logic. It is assumption although logical that if Obito can use both eyes separately then he can snipe and phasing.

However the manga fact stay absolute and clear. Kamui user can not warp in any way while being intangible(phasing).

obito has 3 kamui techs his right eye has two intangible & short rang warping left eye has long rang warping when obito only had his right he had to stay intangible to warp with one of the two techs when people say head snipe their talking about long rang warping and intanible. Obito cant go intangible an short rang warp because he would be using the same right eye techs.

Through both eyes, the user can create two distortions at the same time and connect them. This was demonstrated when Obito first used the long-range Kamui to synchronise with another space–time technique, and then used the short-range Kamui to teleport himself, as well as those touching him, through the portal into another dimension. Long rang his left eye tech short rang his right eye tech I hope you get it now.

I get it whole time but it doesn't prove your point in any way.

Intangibility is not close warping as you said. and Manga fact clearly stated CAN NOT WARP WHILE BEING INTANGIBLE

long range(snipe )= warp so it can not be used period. The reason was still not explored, I suppose phasing make you unable to use eyes's powers/doujutsu this is it's only weakness.

 

[V h o]

One eye makes the user intangible, the other is long range. It should be able to be done at the same time.

 

[KCMNaruto]

One eye makes the user intangible, the other is long range. It should be able to be done at the same time.

@ bold part, explain all your post- it is just assumption based on your concluding skills.

Give me the scan saying Intangibility is counted as wrap or showing Obito use any warp of Kamui while phasing then I will agree

if not, don't waste my time

 

[V h o]

@ bold part, explain all your post- it is just assumption based on your concluding skills.

Give me the scan saying Intangibility is counted as wrap or showing Obito use any warp of Kamui while phasing then I will agree

if not, don't waste my time

Hmm? Your OP doesn't even have a scan in it and your attacking me on scans. Nothing so far has said you can't use 2 MS techniques together or at least I think.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Hmm? Your OP doesn't even have a scan in it and your attacking me on scans. Nothing so far has said you can't use 2 MS techniques together or at least I think.

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^^ There you have it Also in Viz scan it was properly translated as Konan stated: "You can not warp while not being material" or something like that, I don't have viz scan and couldn't find it so I will use this one.

EDIT: Added it to first post of thread also

 

[Migster257]

The thing is, Obito stated that when he only had 1 MS. How could he possibly know the capabilities of a double MS? It's an assumption that both long range warping, and intangibility can be used at the same time when one has both eyes. Again, your post is an assumption when talking about the double MS, and is only factual when it comes to a single MS.

 

[KCMNaruto]

The thing is, Obito stated that when he only had 1 MS. How could he possibly know the capabilities of a double MS? It's an assumption that both long range warping, and intangibility can be used at the same time when one has both eyes. Again, your post is an assumption when talking about the double MS, and is only factual when it comes to a single MS.

Both may be assumption but I still have manga backing up my statement at least in partially so my statement hold more truth.

EDIT: also if Kishi wanted to retconn it or prove kamui wankers statement then he would made Kaguya throwing attack possible ash bones at Kakashi so he would be phasing while warping her Space portal with long range warp(snipping), exactly in this panel:

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^^ but Kishi didn't do that as he made Kakashi phasing while using Sussano here:

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Which can imply only two things:

- he didn't bother with showing it as manga fact aleady stated it is impossible and dual eyes don't change this

or

- he didn't want Kamui users to be able to so he didn't shown them using it in that way, nerfing them so they won't be too hax.

Either way my statement win,unless you can explain it and back up with manga scans

 

[Migster257]

Both may be assumption but I still have manga backing up my statement at least in partially so my statement hold more truth

Your statement is completely true when talking about a single eye.
When it comes to the double MS, both assumptions are just assumptions. One does not hold more truth than the other.

 

[V h o]

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^^ There you have it Also in Viz scan it was properly translated as Konan stated: "You can not warp while not being material" or something like that, I don't have viz scan and couldn't find it so I will use this one.

EDIT: Added it to first post of thread also

This Obito doesn't have both eyes. (1 eye makes him intangible, the other is long range kumai) so this old scan is not helping you. Also the only thing that seems remotely close to what your saying is " You have to solidify before you can warp yourself and you always take longer to absorb someone or something else", which doesn't equal what you said of "You can not warp while not being material".

 

[KCMNaruto]

This Obito doesn't have both eyes. (1 eye makes him intangible, the other is long range kumai) so this old scan is not helping you. Also the only thing that seems remotely close to what your saying is " You have to solidify before you can warp yourself and you always take longer to absorb someone or something else", which doesn't equal what you said of "You can not warp while not being material".

viz scan stated it just search you will know.

 

[V h o]

viz scan stated it just search you will know.

Didn't seem to state anything you were saying, Konan said 2 things and neither of those were what you said. Secondly didn't Obito's mask get broke/chipped because both eyes were used at the same time?

 

[KCMNaruto]

Didn't seem to state anything you were saying, Konan said 2 things and neither of those were what you said. Secondly didn't Obito's mask get broke/chipped because both eyes were used at the same time?

also if Kishi wanted to retconn it or prove kamui wankers statement then he would made Kaguya throwing attack possible ash bones at Kakashi so he would be phasing while warping her Space portal with long range warp(snipping), exactly in this panel:

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^^ but Kishi didn't do that as he made Kakashi phasing while using Sussano here:

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Which can imply only two things:

- he didn't bother with showing it as manga fact aleady stated it is impossible and dual eyes don't change this

or

- he didn't want Kamui users to be able to so he didn't shown them using it in that way, nerfing them so they won't be too hax.

Either way my statement win,unless you can explain it and back up with manga scans

^^ Counter this with manga scans/databook and I admit you are right

It is challenge to everyone who want to prove me wrong, good luck

 

[xxSAGExx]

Exactly as the title states. Obito can either use:

- Both Kamui at the same time to to create Space portal
- Both Kamui separately as he did to slip in Kaguya's dimenssion unnoticed.

Obito can also uses any attack bar Kamui while staying itangible. Konan stated that Obito need to stay tangible to warp someone or himself:

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I know it may be due to both abilities come from same eye, but it could be asbolute rule for Kamui use while being tangible so no.

The manga has never shown or stated Kamui user sniping someone while staing itangible so as far as manga goes Kamui user can not do that. While it may seem possible, Kishi would nerf it anyway or simple make failsafe to state it is impossible so Kamui user can be beaten.

Conclusion: It is very unlikely as neither Obito or Kakashi was shown doing it, and Kamui is gone so we will never find out.

They can't snipe period, Kakashi said the eye is going blind. You have to get very close to the target

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[KCMNaruto]

They can't snipe period, Kakashi said the eye is going blind. You have to get very close to the target

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Well this is not best example you posted because Kakashi was going blind back then but it still counts I guess.

Anyway here is what the viz scan states:

Sfx: Bom Bom

Konan: "You cannot teleport.
I've been paying attention all these years."

Konan: (To teleport, you must first materialize.
And it takes longer to suck yourself in... Than another person or object...)

Sfx: Boof

Obito: "If I hadn't switch from flying...
...To slipping past that explosion...

It would've been bad...

Obito: (With all these explosive tags everywhere, she can attack at any moment...

Sfx: Fwooo...

I have to be careful where I materialize...)

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Konan stated to teleport, teleport is synonime of word wrap in this case.

It means He has to be in real world to have his eye power free to use.

I won

 

[synkross]

Either way my statement win,unless you can explain it and back up with manga scans

^^ Counter this with manga scans/databook and I admit you are right

It is challenge to everyone who want to prove me wrong, good luck

Such BS , i also have a challenge Lol
show me a manga scan clearly stating that " DMS Obito can not use intangibility and Long range Kamui at the same time "
It is a challenge to everyone who want to prove me wrong, good luck

 

[KCMNaruto]

Such BS , i also have a challenge Lol
show me a manga scan clearly stating that " DMS Obito can not use intangibility and Long range Kamui at the same time "
It is a challenge to everyone who want to prove me wrong, good luck

I was first, who gave you challenge, so you have to prove me wrong first then my turn

 

[KCMNaruto]

Sfx: Bom Bom

Konan: "You cannot teleport.
I've been paying attention all these years."

Konan: (To teleport, you must first materialize.
And it takes longer to suck yourself in... Than another person or object...)

Sfx: Boof

Obito: "If I hadn't switch from flying...
...To slipping past that explosion...

It would've been bad...

Obito: (With all these explosive tags everywhere, she can attack at any moment...

Sfx: Fwooo...

I have to be careful where I materialize...)

first statement from Konan gg your opinion

teleport = wrap

Viz scan > your opinion