[Manga approved] Kamui user can not snipe someone while staying itangible

[BenjerminGaye]

He provided proof.. yall didn't..

Him > yall, at this point..


And trying to apply that quote to everytime you don't have a proof.. doesn't support the argument any better. Fact is Obito fans don't ahve any proof.

Because the "we need proof on where it is stated he can't" is a double sided road, meaning you need to prove where its stated he can do it at the sametime. And not this is not, "The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence." This is you guys giving him an ability he does not have , and has never shown.

Actually he didn't. Konan said he can't absorb himself while being intangible. She didn't say he can't absorb others while being intangible, when it came to that all she mentioned was that him absorbing himself takes longer.

So me> him since moment he created the thread.

Actually that's my first use of that quote, (hence why I still can't remember who said it) and I only used it since it fits the situation. He has no evidence proving that obito can't(absence of evidence), thus can't come to the conclusion that obito can't(evidence of absence).

Seeing as how he can still use ninjutsu and dojutsu(which kamui falls under) while being intangible there's no reason he can't.

@kcm naruto
Kakashi does it with more ease than obito since he can use one ability in each eye. He'd use his original to snipe while using obito's to stay intangible. And I have proof of this since multiple ms users have used multiple ms techs at the same time.
Ex: Kakashi used Kamui while using susanno.
Sasuke used Amaterasu while using susanoo, he also used Enton while using amaterasu.
Itachi used susanno while using tsukuyomi.

=)

 

[AlphaScythian]

so much words, still I didn't get your scan with Kamui user doing both what the title of thread and manga decline.

Let's play in your game Kamui your assumptions gg

Kamui your fanboyism gg.

Manga > your opinion

You are obsessed kid over Kamui so you will never admit when you are wrong. You are not worthy of my time as you proved you want to stay in dellusion. Believe in your fanfic, that all you care about.

No counter?
Only butthurt blah blah tears?
/Soloed! U_U

 

[dms_kakashi]

If thet have two eyes he surely can do
And konan just knew info about single eye
So u r wrong

 

[KCMNaruto]

Actually he didn't. Konan said he can't absorb himself while being intangible. She didn't say he can't absorb others while being intangible, when it came to that all she mentioned was that him absorbing himself takes longer.

So me> him since moment he created the thread.

Actually that's my first use of that quote, (hence why I still can't remember who said it) and I only used it since it fits the situation. He has no evidence proving that obito can't(absence of evidence), thus can't come to the conclusion that obito can't(evidence of absence).

Seeing as how he can still use ninjutsu and dojutsu(which kamui falls under) while being intangible there's no reason he can't.

@kcm naruto
Kakashi does it with more ease than obito since he can use one ability in each eye. He'd use his original to snipe while using obito's to stay intangible. And I have proof of this since multiple ms users have used multiple ms techs at the same time.
Ex: Kakashi used Kamui while using susanno.
Sasuke used Amaterasu while using susanoo, he also used Enton while using amaterasu.
Itachi used susanno while using tsukuyomi.

=)

scan or assumption

No counter?
Only butthurt blah blah tears?
/Soloed! U_U

scan for your proof, I will wait...

Nothing ?

You are butthurt /thread

If thet have two eyes he surely can do
And konan just knew info about single eye
So u r wrong

scan or Kishi laugh from you

 

[AlphaScythian]

scan for your proof, I will wait...

Nothing ?

You are butthurt /thread

Burden of proof is on you.
You claimed something outrageous and used a scan in reference to one eye.
When it's manga fact that Double MS opens it's true power.

Show me a scan that forbids DMS Obito do that.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

scan or assumption



scan for your proof, I will wait...

Nothing ?

You are butthurt /thread



scan or Kishi laugh from you

Scans of what? A ms user using two ms techs at the same time? Lmao. U don't deserve that. 691 chapters in and after multiple ms users did it it should be common knowledge by now.

 

[Scryed]

Sorry but I disagree with you. Although I will admit that you could be right.

Obito warped Sakura out of his dimension without making contact with her. What I've noticed is that those "make contact to warp" doesn't apply to objects that are already in his dimension. He has shown to be able to simply eject objects out of there(Kunai, Rinne Stakes, Fuu and Torune). For things outside of his dimension though, he has made some kind of contact to warp them away. Infact, there's a chance that what he did with Sakura was what he does with himself to appear anywhere around the.world once he warps out of his dimension.

As for the reason why I disagree with you. I'm not 100% sure this is how it works since like you said, it wasn't shown completely but I'll give my thoughts on it.

Obito does not become intangible nor does he exist in his dimension leaving a "projection of himself" behind. He remains on earth.but the moment something overlaps with a certain part of his body, that part of his body disappears from earth and appears in his dimension as a lone floating object, as Kakashi explained. The reason it seemed like.he was intangible was probably because the things that overlapped with his body weren't invisible or anything. If an invisible.hand were to.go through his chest while he's "intangible", you'd probably see a hole through his chest since that part of his body is in the other dimension.

When Obito tried to warp away, he was still completely on Earth. The moment Konan noticed that, she made paper bombs go towards him so he had to resort to letting them pass through him. The reason he probably couldn't warp while "intangible" could be because a part of him was already existing in his dimension. If anything, he probably needs to be "complete" in order to warp himself away.

When it comes to long range Kamui, it's.not his body that's being warped. It's not made through contact either but by sight. I don't see any reason why both eyes can't be used simultaniously.


That's just how I believe his Kamui works though. It's possible you could be right but I'll disagree with you for now.


BTW, I do think that attacks.that don't overlap with his body could affect him (Gravity, Air, etc.)

 

[AlphaScythian]

Scans of what? A ms user using two ms techs at the same time? Lmao. U don't deserve that. 691 chapters in and after multiple ms users did it it should be common knowledge by now.

He is just delusional butthurt homoromo fanboy who went into denial so hard that for him manga has ended at chapter 689.
Do i have to say more?

 

[KingHashirama]

Actually he didn't. Konan said he can't absorb himself while being intangible. She didn't say he can't absorb others while being intangible, when it came to that all she mentioned was that him absorbing himself takes longer.

So me> him since moment he created the thread.

Actually that's my first use of that quote, (hence why I still can't remember who said it) and I only used it since it fits the situation. He has no evidence proving that obito can't(absence of evidence), thus can't come to the conclusion that obito can't(evidence of absence).

Seeing as how he can still use ninjutsu and dojutsu(which kamui falls under) while being intangible there's no reason he can't.

@kcm naruto
Kakashi does it with more ease than obito since he can use one ability in each eye. He'd use his original to snipe while using obito's to stay intangible. And I have proof of this since multiple ms users have used multiple ms techs at the same time.
Ex: Kakashi used Kamui while using susanno.
Sasuke used Amaterasu while using susanoo, he also used Enton while using amaterasu.
Itachi used susanno while using tsukuyomi.

=)

By "you using that quote" i was just referring to people using it when they can't prove stuff.

Furthermore, i'm not even talking about the konan stuff. But here is the thing what implies he can use them at the same times? nothing. He can use his 2 eyes to teleport himself to the dimension at the same time.. but what is implying he can go tangible and snipe? nothing.

^^^^ do you see that?

Furthermore, he is stating it from the factual point that in the manga Obito cannot use them at the same time. Unless you like me to give Hashiram the ability to use the buddha and mokuton tree world at the same time, while perfectly knowing he cannot because he has not shown it.

The issue of the thread arises from VS Threads, which are based on "manga feats" and no assumptions and giving random power ups to someone.

Has it ever been used?

What makes people think he can use them at the same time?

Can Itachi/Sasuke do tsukuyomi with one and amaterasu with the other eye at the same time also then? (clearly you seem to believe people can use both eye techs at the same time)

The OP only stated the obvious what is in the manga presently, he didn't make up an assumption from the sky. However, to refute the op you must have valid proof, otherwise you are simply giving him something that is not in the manga for him.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

By "you using that quote" i was just referring to people using it when they can't prove stuff.

Furthermore, i'm not even talking about the konan stuff. But here is the thing what implies he can use them at the same times? nothing. He can use his 2 eyes to teleport himself to the dimension at the same time.. but what is implying he can go tangible and snipe? nothing.

^^^^ do you see that?

Furthermore, he is stating it from the factual point that in the manga Obito cannot use them at the same time. Unless you like me to give Hashiram the ability to use the buddha and mokuton tree world at the same time, while perfectly knowing he cannot because he has not shown it.

The issue of the thread arises from VS Threads, which are based on "manga feats" and no assumptions and giving random power ups to someone.

Has it ever been used?

What makes people think he can use them at the same time?

Can Itachi/Sasuke do tsukuyomi with one and amaterasu with the other eye at the same time also then?

The OP only stated the obvious what is in the manga presently, he didn't make up an assumption from the sky. However, to refute the op you must have valid proof, otherwise you are simply giving him something that is not in the manga for him.

they already have. Sasuke did it at the summit. Itachi did it in the cave with kabuto. Even kakashi did it vs kaguya.

 

[KingHashirama]

they already have. Sasuke did it at the summit. Itachi did it in the cave with kabuto. Even kakashi did it vs kaguya.

Nopeee.. Sasuke has never used Amaterasu and TSukuyomio at the sametime. Please stop.

On kage summit, false what he did was a continous usage of techniques not using them at the sametime.

He has only used Susanoo (its activated and stop being an eye tech, as shown by madara), and hes mixed it with Amaterasu.


No MS user in the manga, has activated 2 eye techniques that require especially those 2 eyes at the sametime.

 

[wael reda]

Man,there is a difference between obito with one ms and obito or kakashi with two ms
Obito with one ms can't use 2 ms techs at the same time with just one eye so he can't be intangible while warping himself or others
But with 2 ms ,I think he can use intangibility with one eye and kamui snipe with the other eye

Whatever ,it didn't happen in the manga so may I wrong

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Nopeee.. Sasuke has never used Amaterasu and TSukuyomio at the sametime. Please stop.

On kage summit, false what he did was a continous usage of techniques not using them at the sametime.

He has only used Susanoo (its activated and stop being an eye tech, as shown by madara), and hes mixed it with Amaterasu.

Sasuke dosent have tsukuyomi. His double ms is amaterasu and enton.
Susanoo is a ms tech.double ms is the requirement for it.
So yeah.

 

[wael reda]

Nopeee.. Sasuke has never used Amaterasu and TSukuyomio at the sametime. Please stop.

On kage summit, false what he did was a continous usage of techniques not using them at the sametime.

He has only used Susanoo (its activated and stop being an eye tech, as shown by madara), and hes mixed it with Amaterasu.


No MS user in the manga, has activated 2 eye techniques that require especially those 2 eyes at the sametime.

Sasuke used amatrasu while he was using susano
So what prevent DMS obi to or DMS kakashi from using kamui snipe while they are using susano ,or using kamui snipe while they are using intangibility
May I am wrong ,I among sure since logic doesn't work always in the manga

 

[KingHashirama]

Sasuke dosent have tsukuyomi. His double ms is amaterasu and enton.
Susanoo is a ms tech.double ms is the requirement for it.
So yeah.

False again, Sasuke does have tsukuyomi (genjutsu used with the opposite eye of the Amaterasu eye). Enton is not a special ability, it is simply the manipulation of amaterasu done by using the left eye.. lol.

Susanoo can be used without eyes when unlocked, Madara is proof enough and so is Itachi.

Sasuke used amatrasu while he was using susano
So what prevent DMS obi to or DMS kakashi from using kamui snipe while they are using susano ,or using kamui snipe while they are using intangibility
May I am wrong ,I among sure since logic doesn't work always in the manga

What prevents Obito/Kakashi from using them is the fact, they are 2 different abilities , yet at the same time the same abilities.

obito = kamui's himself

Kakashi = Kamui on others

^^^^ thats it. . Even when both had them.. they were never done together. They are the same abilities, but used on different things.

But furthermore, its non-sense to tell the OP hes talking BS and demand scans, when the people claiming he can do it have no scans either. Can Hashirama do Flower tree world and Buddha together? they are mokuton techs.. whats stopping him? oh wait i know, the manga is stoppping him..

 

[AlphaScythian]

What prevents Obito/Kakashi from using them is the fact, they are 2 different abilities , yet at the same time the same abilities.

obito = kamui's himself

Kakashi = Kamui on others

^^^^ thats it. . Even when both had them.. they were never done together. They are the same abilities, but used on different things.

Kakashi's kamui and Obito's was already shown to be used together.
Obito used both eyes hacking kaguya's worlds.
Kakashi and Obito were using them separately at same time too.

 

[KamuiGodObito]

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Obito can use both MS techs.

 

[KingHashirama]

Kakashi's kamui and Obito's was already shown to be used together.
Obito used both eyes hacking kaguya's worlds.
Kakashi and Obito were using them separately at same time too.

used by 2 different people mate.

Just like Itachi can use tsukuyomi , while Sasuke uses amaterasu on the person at the same time.

 

[KamuiGodObito]

used by 2 different people mate.

Just like Itachi can use tsukuyomi , while Sasuke uses amaterasu on the person at the same time.

Two different people two different eyes look at my post above yours.

 

[AlphaScythian]

used by 2 different people mate.

Just like Itachi can use tsukuyomi , while Sasuke uses amaterasu on the person at the same time.

But they share same dimension and eyes are still interconnected.

The other example however ends your argument.