Man...Minato....

[Nagi]

That is not a debate, its her gift

Oh I thought her gift is to see the chakra flow on a profound level in a person, but if it is then okay.

 

[Bangimaki]

Not even going entertain you with this. You're saying that a teacher should teach a advance jutsu to everybody he trust. It never occur to you that Minato read the scroll and like and decided to redefine it. Kakashi know how to use rasengan but you don't see him using it in battle. This part of the argument is over.

Kakshi can use rasengan when not under pressure, but he can't in actual battle because he needs time to mould and shape the chakra which he isn't yet perfect at, even naruto isn't and require a clone, Besides kishi was high when he wrote that chapter

 

[Airi]

Lmao, She sensed Suigetsu Hōzuki, her own chakra, Jūgo, and The Sound Four(Orochimaru's elite bodyguards) in Kabuto! So She was confused big time about it

Obito only had the 1st hokage dna mix with his own. Minato should've been able to sense some of obito's charka at least. That make sense now?

You still didn't explain how Minato was supposed to sense Obito's chakra when it was fused with an entirely different chakra signature (Zetsu's), but okay.

 

[Bangimaki]

Oh I thought her gift is to see the chakra flow on a profound level in a person, but if it is then okay.

She doesn't see chakra, but her sensing ability is so dope she can visualize it better than a dojoutsu user would see it

 

[Nagi]

You still didn't explain how Minato was supposed to sense Obito's chakra when it was fused with an entirely different chakra signature (Zetsu's), but okay.

According to Bangimaki, Karin's sensor ability is far better than Minato, which allow her to sense all those chakra(s). I guess Minato was just an average sensor. If that the case, I guess all average sensor can't sense different chakra signature.

 

[Raijingan]

Kakshi can use rasengan when not under pressure, but he can't in actual battle because he needs time to mould and shape the chakra which he isn't yet perfect at, even naruto isn't and require a clone, Besides kishi was high when he wrote that chapter

Ikr, knowing rasengan and not using it, tis crazy. Everyone else who knows it use it as a main feat

 

[shelke]

lol
10 char

It isn't? Is it donkey cart heave ho, or something?

Very funny, so how do you use the clouds teleportation in battle? And if you are talking bout the lightning cloak, that isn't teleportation

Not battle. Minato's FTG is simply telepotation as well. He has simply made his fighting style around it. It's not the other way around. Summoning is also S/T teleporation. Cloud used speed of light teleportation in the past to teleport the third Raikage into the battlefield and in this war the used it to send in Fourth and Tsunade, along with the purifying pot.

My point being; it isn't out of the world. Creating ET on the other hand, means summoning souls of dead folks. I mean, come on! Which would be difficult to create and learn?

 

[Bangimaki]

According to Bangimaki, Karin's sensor ability is far better than Minato, which allow her to sense all those chakra(s). I guess Minato was just an average sensor. If that the case, I guess all average sensor can't sense different chakra signature.

He has a point, Minato hasn't come across zetsu or hashirama before for him to know their chakra sig

 

[Bangimaki]

It isn't? Is it donkey cart heave ho, or something?



Not battle. Minato's FTG is simply telepotation as well. He has simply made his fighting style around it. It's not the other way around. Summoning is also S/T teleporation. Cloud used speed of light teleportation in the past to teleport the third Raikage into the battlefield and in this war the used it to send in Fourth and Tsunade, along with the purifying pot.

My point being; it isn't out of the world. Creating ET on the other hand, means summoning souls of dead folks. I mean, come on! Which would be difficult to create and learn?

Imagine the scale of the teleporting device, now you mean you carry that around while fighting, minato mastered a compact, instant teleportation technique

 

[shelke]

Imagine the scale of the teleporting device, now you mean you carry that around while fighting, minato mastered a compact, instant teleportation technique

What point are you exactly trying to make?

 

[Nagi]

He has a point, Minato hasn't come across zetsu or hashirama before for him to know their chakra sig

It almost like you're saying that obito is fully zetsu. He only had half of zetsu implanted on his body. Unless you going to say Zetsu's chakra signature completely overwritten obito's chakra signature, my statement about Minato being an average sensor remain the same.

 

[Raijingan]

It isn't? Is it donkey cart heave ho, or something?



Not battle. Minato's FTG is simply telepotation as well. He has simply made his fighting style around it. It's not the other way around. Summoning is also S/T teleporation. Cloud used speed of light teleportation in the past to teleport the third Raikage into the battlefield and in this war the used it to send in Fourth and Tsunade, along with the purifying pot.

My point being; it isn't out of the world. Creating ET on the other hand, means summoning souls of dead folks. I mean, come on! Which would be difficult to create and learn?

Difficult to create, yes. Difficult to perfect, yes. Difficult to learn? Let's just say that Kabuto managed to learn it, and he is not that much of a champ. It's difficult yes, although there are more complex jutsus, like FTG.

Simply teleportation? When is teleportation ever simple? Not only that, this is the only true teleportation technique that doesn't involve eye technique. What you have to do is to from any point seal yourself in a very specific marker and then unseal yourself, from either a static or a moving object. A lot more can go wrong from that than just summoning dead. It takes more skill to use it and it's harder to learn

 

[Nagi]

Difficult to create, yes. Difficult to perfect, yes. Difficult to learn? Let's just say that Kabuto managed to learn it, and he is not that much of a champ. It's difficult yes, although there are more complex jutsus, like FTG.

Simply teleportation? When is teleportation ever simple? Not only that, this is the only true teleportation technique that doesn't involve eye technique. What you have to do is to from any point seal yourself in a very specific marker and then unseal yourself, from either a static or a moving object. A lot more can go wrong from that than just summoning dead. It takes more skill to use it and it's harder to learn

All i gotta say is shisui uchiha the teleporter!

 

[Raijingan]

All i gotta say is shisui uchiha the teleporter!

I've heard about that but never seen any feat. Mangaphax please?

 

[shelke]

Difficult to create, yes. Difficult to perfect, yes. Difficult to learn? Let's just say that Kabuto managed to learn it, and he is not that much of a champ. It's difficult yes, although there are more complex jutsus, like FTG.

Simply teleportation? When is teleportation ever simple? Not only that, this is the only true teleportation technique that doesn't involve eye technique. What you have to do is to from any point seal yourself in a very specific marker and then unseal yourself, from either a static or a moving object. A lot more can go wrong from that than just summoning dead. It takes more skill to use it and it's harder to learn

Let's see some explanations as to how ET and FTG can be paralleled in terms of complexity. I would need some scans for that that actually state this.

Yes, simply teleportation. A user is hurled from point A to B. Just like summoning and reverse summoning. The technique itself is borderline pedestrian.

 

[Bangimaki]

What point are you exactly trying to make?

My point is why compare that hidden mists teleportation of objects device, which is said to kill every normal human being to the FTG technique

 

[Nagi]

I've heard about that but never seen any feat. Mangaphax please?

Anime called him shisui uchiha the teleporter!

Manga called him Shisui of the Body Flicker!

So honestly, I don't know. Need more manga facts on him.

 

[shelke]

My point is why compare that hidden mists teleportation of objects device, which is said to kill every normal human being to the FTG technique

Way to grasp this from another angle. God ...

 

[Raijingan]

Let's see some explanations as to how ET and FTG can be paralleled in terms of complexity. I would need some scans for that that actually state this.

Yes, simply teleportation. A user is hurled from point A to B. Just like summoning and reverse summoning. The technique itself is borderline pedestrian.

The technique is probably one of the most difficult techniques to learn and master, for the reasons I stated earlier. It's nothing like summoning and reverse summoning, more than the idea.

 

[shelke]

The technique is probably one of the most difficult techniques to learn and master, for the reasons I stated earlier. It's nothing like summoning and reverse summoning, more than the idea.

Probability is not certainty, nor does it point to this statement being a fact.