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When he wanted to learn sage mode, his regular body couldn't handle it. But He nearly overthrown the hidden leaf village. That is leader qualities. He planned that shit out lovely! Also sat next to the 3rd hokage just chilling like a villain.
That shows oro is naturally weak, and planned to used steroids and drugs to improve his natural self, but still failed
 

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So Kakashi who has him as his menthor should also be able to do what he does or what's your pint exactly?
But when you think about it, Kakashi was training himself most of the time and on missions while Minato was fighting in the war. Minato didn't learn all them high level jutsu stuff on his own! His teachers spent some quality time with him unlike he did with his students. Remember the 3rd hokage was said to know the most jutsu so im not surprise that he learned teleport-no-jutsu from him.(Im not saying the 3rd hokage know how to teleport, but he certainly had all the scrolls lock up in his house).
 

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Well Karin couldn't sense that the mystery man was Kabuto, i guess she's a failed sensor...
She sensed more than 1 chakra in him and explained why she couldn't at first. She was basically sensing the whole hebi there, so it didn't make sense to her at the time.
 

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But when you think about it, Kakashi was training himself most of the time and on missions while Minato was fighting in the war. Minato didn't learn all them high level jutsu stuff on his own! His teachers spent some quality time with him unlike he did with his students. Remember the 3rd hokage was said to know the most jutsu so im not surprise that he learned teleport-no-jutsu from him.(Im not saying the 3rd hokage know how to teleport, but he certainly had all the scrolls lock up in his house).
And which of your mentioned minato mentor can use FTG, did second teach him??
 

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And which of your mentioned minato mentor can use FTG, did second teach him??
Did I just said the 3rd hokage had all the scrolls stacked up in his house. How you think orochimaru learn "edo tensei"? The scroll!!! Minato study the scroll and redefine it!
 

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Did I just said the 3rd hokage had all the scrolls stacked up in his house. How you think orochimaru learn "edo tensei"? The scroll!!! Minato study the scroll and redefine it!
Edo tensei is a less complex jutsu compared to FTG,am sure orochi would have tried and failed, hiruzen knows all jutsu doesn't mean he can use all jutsu.
 

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Did I just said the 3rd hokage had all the scrolls stacked up in his house. How you think orochimaru learn "edo tensei"? The scroll!!! Minato study the scroll and redefine it!
You just basically went against your own argument. You said Kakashi taught himself but Minato was spoon fed .

But you you also realize that none of Minatos teachers could have spoon fed him FTG so just like Kakashi he taught himself .
 

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Edo tensei is a less complex jutsu compared to FTG,am sure orochi would have tried and failed, hiruzen knows all jutsu doesn't mean he can use all jutsu.
lol as i stated before, I didn't say he can use all jutsu, but he had all the scrolls stacked up in his house lol.
 

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Just have to add another thing in how Kishi screwed Minato.


I was initially under the impression that Minato invented all his techniques. That he studied Uzumaki seals and TBB and by that invented FTG, RDS and rasengan, among many.

But Kishi had to hype Tobirama since we knew nothing about him except that his water techniques were good, and that he was a sensor. So suddenly he was a teleporter as well. And not just a teleporter, he used the same damn technique as Minato, and invented it. Thank you Kishi, thank you.

Would it be so hard to just make up a new cool jutsu for Tobirama instead?
 

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You just basically went against your own argument. You said Kakashi taught himself but Minato was spoon fed .

But you you also realize that none of Minatos teachers could have spoon fed him FTG so just like Kakashi he taught himself .
Not really. When you read the manga and anime, Kakashi was busy most of the time. Minato didn't live long enough to train him either. Maybe if he had lived long enough, Kakashi could've learn some jutsu from him or help make chidori a better jutsu or whatever.
 
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