[Theory] Madara Uchiha and Kabuto's last summon

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Ok. So as of the latest chapter we saw that Kabuto was able to summon someone that made Tobi freak out. Now it's been stated before that not only is Madara "a shell of his former self" but that he also plans on using the bijuu to restore his power. Knowing that...here's my theory.

I still stand firmly by the fact that it's not so simple as Tobi=Madara. If that were the case he wouldn't have a mask and there'd be no mystery. I do however think that it is Madara in someone else's body.

If you take that assumption then you may ask what happened to Madara's body? Well, I believe (as of the latest chapter) that Madara wanted to somehow use the power of the bijuu to revive and transfer his soul back into his own body to have the power of his EMS. As it is now, we've never seen Tobi/Madara with any other Sharingan than the 3 tomoe, so I believe he doesn't have either MS nor EMS at the current time.

With all that in mind, I came to the conclusion that Kabuto summoned Madaras body in the final casket. For if my theory is correct and Madara was trying to get his own body back to regain his EMS, then that would certainly explain his reaction when Kabuto summoned it, as Kabuto could destroy it at any time. What else could scare the great Madara soo bad as to give in to someone who wants to kill/experiment on his new pet Sasuke after all Madara did to help Sasuke.

Well there it is. To sum it all up again.

1) Madara is in another body
2) Madara wants to use the power of all the bijuu to restore himself to his original body
3) Kabuto summoned Madara's original body, causing Madara's reaction and sudden change of heart.

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The biggest problem I have with this popular idea that Madara's body was in the casket is that Edo Tensei doesn't summon the person's body. It uses a sacrificial body to bring the soul back and then uses ashes to make it look like the person.
 

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The biggest problem I have with this popular idea that Madara's body was in the casket is that Edo Tensei doesn't summon the person's body. It uses a sacrificial body to bring the soul back and then uses ashes to make it look like the person.
I thought of that too...but maybe that's what Kabuto meant when he said he's mastered the jutsu further than Orochimaru?
 

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Yea, that's who I'm going with. Rikudo is the only one who would have Madara acting like that.
Enh, idk, maybe...but I just don't see that as likely. The guy was the first Rinn'ngan (sp?) user, and the freaking creator of all ninjutsu O_O. I doubt they'd reduce a character like that to a zombie summoned by Kabutomaru. I think the Sage of Six Paths will remain a legend in the NarutoVerse and we'll never get to see him in living action (unless through flashbacks).
 

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Enh, idk, maybe...but I just don't see that as likely. The guy was the first Rinn'ngan (sp?) user, and the freaking creator of all ninjutsu O_O. I doubt they'd reduce a character like that to a zombie summoned by Kabutomaru. I think the Sage of Six Paths will remain a legend in the NarutoVerse and we'll never get to see him in living action (unless through flashbacks).


Plus I'm pretty sure if Kabuto could summon the Sot6P he wouldn't have to wait until the end of the war to get to Sasuke, he could just go through Tobi. :p

Also he said his goal was understanding ninjutsu, what better source for that than its creator?
 

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Plus I'm pretty sure if Kabuto could summon the Sot6P he wouldn't have to wait until the end of the war to get to Sasuke, he could just go through Tobi. :p

Also he said his goal was understanding ninjutsu, what better source for that than its creator?
Good point on the understanding Ninjutsu quote. But he also said he needed Sasuke to do that. If he summoned the So6P he wouldn't need Sasuke right? And like you said, he could just go through Tobi if it was the Sage.
 
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Good point on the understanding Ninjutsu quote. But he also said he needed Sasuke to do that. If he summoned the So6P he wouldn't need Sasuke right? And like you said, he could just go through Tobi if it was the Sage.


That's true, but what Madara failed to realize, was that Kabuto did not put the kunai with the tag inside a body. If I recall, in the battle between Orochimaru and Hiruzen, Orochimaru placed a kunai with some sort of tag within Hashirama and Tobirama, which had then led to the control of them both. So Madara should have just attacked Kabuto and eliminated him. Kabuto is up to no good, leading Konoha to Madara?s base. I can take a good guess and say that the Konoha squad will infiltrate the underground base, causing some sort of tension between Madara and Konoha, while that?s going on, Kabuto is going to try and take Sasuke?.But anyways, Madara could still defeat Kabuto before he can even control Rikudo.
 

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The biggest problem I have with this popular idea that Madara's body was in the casket is that Edo Tensei doesn't summon the person's body. It uses a sacrificial body to bring the soul back and then uses ashes to make it look like the person.
Exactly. Everybody forgot for a moment that the body doesn't matter since it summons the soul. The speculation is that DNA is needed and Kabuto could have easily gotten the Akatsuki ones for Oro.

The most important thing I took from that was where Kabuto said "You CANNOT refuse me." Madara holds value or respectful fear over what he saw. It's probably not enough to defeat him, because otherwise Kabuto would just kill him and go after Sasuke, but more like a major hindrance to his plan.

One thing we know for sure is that Kabuto has more available. So Jiraiya (DNA easy to get), Izuna (tough one I think) and The Third Hokage (easy to get). The Fourth is sealed away and not dead as far as I know.

The First and Second Hokage's are in there too with plenty more I'm sure. He left a trail of bodies behind him so he has to have plenty and is picking the perfect matches for people he plans to face.

Part of the power in Impure Resurrection is the mindf*ck that comes along with having to fight someone you never wanted to.
 
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the obvious thought would be its madaras body.

i think a cool option would be madaras brother. Like maybe the story he tells isnt all true and madaras bro was really the bad ass uchia and he stole his eyes.

Or maybe its the opposite and madara is really Izuna and kabuto raised madara.


there is way to many unknowns at this point and im afraid it will be quite some time before kishi lets that secret out of the bag of who it really was.
 

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madara said that fighting u would only reduce my battle fighting powers meaning that he could've kicked kabuto's ass but he will get weak and i think that the person inside the coffin is the SOT6P cuz madara freaked out and described kabuto as a mad man meaning that the person in that coffin was very powerful and legendary not madara's body cuz if it was madara's body he would've said u bastard or something like that...
 

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Theirs also a noter theory,This so called Madara may not be the original Madara, but a missing Uchiha that finds it easy to pose as Madara for His own plans of world domination. The Man in the coffin may be the real Madara, and the one calling Himself Madara dose not want the true t out.
 

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Theirs also a noter theory,This so called Madara may not be the original Madara, but a missing Uchiha that finds it easy to pose as Madara for His own plans of world domination. The Man in the coffin may be the real Madara, and the one calling Himself Madara dose not want the true t out.
it has been stated before that madara is the only uchiha who left the village in the history of konaho so it couldnt have been a missing uchiha....and even if he is a missing uchiha what can he gain from posing as madara...and why did he act stupid infront of the other akatsuki and pretending not to be madara?
 

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madara has 1 tomoe cuz he is in OBITOS BODY/ any other random uchiha
but MADARA = MADARA himself

he transplanted his soul into some uchiha
he cant kill sasuke and transplant sum eyes , cuz
he aint got MS
S + eyejob = FAIL
MS + eyejob = EMS

thats why he needs his old body
which is now in kabutomaru's hands

ya dat seems real

EDIT : but itachi would not be mistaken so easily....
 
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What would happen it Kabuto show the real Madara to the world his credibility is gone and if that happens the nations will become bold because he is not this also powerful guy but an impostor
 
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