[Theory] Madara Uchiha and Kabuto's last summon

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there is no way kabuto summoned madara's body as that jutsu summons dead person's soul not actual body.....plus i have posted an spoiler on who is tobi here...
*sigh*

I'm not going through this again. I've already said my answer to that exact statement. And this is the last time I'll say it.

We don't know what Kabuto ment when he said he's mastered the jutsu further than Orochimaru. He COULD have found a way to summon back the body too.

We just don't know.
 

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I just interesting thought about this topic.

And it came from the Kishi interview back 2009.

Kishi says

"Three new members will join the Akatsuki. They will be stronger than Deidara, Hidan, and Kakuzu. One of them is the brother/sister of the Hokage"


Ok so, do you think this has anything to do with the mystery coffin
Do you think it's the brother/sister of a hokage? If yes which hokage?
Or maybe its already happened but we didn't know about there family ties. For example we knowing about Kabuto's parents or most of the characters in the Naruto world for that matter.

Also about these three new members, it could be that this isn't the time in the Manga for this to happen.
There are more than three corpses anyway so I guess Tobi is gonna get more allies for the war in the future.

Very hard to know what kishi meant by all this until more of the manga is revealed.
 

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I remember Kabuto saying something about his ?ld blood awakening'' during the chuunin exams.
What the hell ever happened to that?
And as for whats ion the coffin? I'm sure its a character we haven't seen yet.
 

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I just interesting thought about this topic.


"Three new members will join the Akatsuki. They will be stronger than Deidara, Hidan, and Kakuzu. One of them is the brother/sister of the Hokage"
When I read that it made me think of Tsunade's brother. Besides the 2nd Hokage and Bee, we really haven't heard a ton of Hokage siblings; I just don't think Bee will turn.
 

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See, my only thing that makes me very skeptical against the possibility that the body inside the last casket is Madara's "real" one is because of the simple fact that Madara has placed so much devotion to hiding his identity behind a mask as far back as when he first met Itachi, possibly longer.

If he had placed his essence inside another person's body, then why bother with the masks at all? It's not like anyone would recognize him. And if it was Obito's body Madara had been preoccupying, as I've read some theories supporting, then wouldn't Madara's current "host" be the physique of a small boy, considering that Obito was such when he died?

Kisame knew right off the bat who Madara/Tobi was the second he removed his mask. That, and either Itachi and/or Madara himself mentioned that he had reached a state of "immortality" due to his ridiculous power, so it wouldn't make sense if he abandoned his original body for a younger one.

I don't know... With the way the whole scene was presented, it just seems like there'd be an even bigger, more horrifying revelation lying within that casket than the mere corpse of a supposedly immortal character, such as Madara. But either way, I'm more than excited to find out what it is - even if it, in fact, proves my doubt to be wrong. I'm more than positive that Kishimoto will make it wonderfully shocking.
 
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Please shoot me!! I am immature and can't accept teh fact a kind of cool charecter named Obita died and WiLL not come back ever again. Grow up u idiot!!!
Obitos' probable return is totally impossible u baby
 

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You guys arent thinking straight who is the one person Mandara is linked to that he would actually care about
1. He never had a wife
2. He killed a ton uchihas with Itachi so he doesnt care much about them
3. The only reason he was angry so much towards the Leaf Village is because he felt his brothers sacrifise was useless so he...cares only about his brother
4. Kabuto surpassed orochimaru so he probably completely brought mandaras brother back to life.
 

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You guys arent thinking straight who is the one person Mandara is linked to that he would actually care about
1. He never had a wife
2. He killed a ton uchihas with Itachi so he doesnt care much about them
3. The only reason he was angry so much towards the Leaf Village is because he felt his brothers sacrifise was useless so he...cares only about his brother
4. Kabuto surpassed orochimaru so he probably completely brought mandaras brother back to life.
How do you know Madara never had a wife? That's a very large assumption. And Madara was angry at Konoha not just because he felt Izuna's sacrifice was a waste, it was because he tried to rally the Uchiha's support to challenge the Senju's leadership, yet his own clan turned their backs on him. He feared that down the line the Senju would exterminate the Uchiha, but no one listened to him. Madara has an extreme hatred of the Senju and its philosophy, which is rooted in the village, and that's why he tries to tear the roots out of the ground and destroy the tree with all the leaves on it we call Konoha. Though that hatred has extended as far as the Uchiha clan, perhaps explaining why he is manipulating a person he is related to (Sasuke) for his own ends.
 

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You guys arent thinking straight who is the one person Mandara is linked to that he would actually care about
1. He never had a wife
2. He killed a ton uchihas with Itachi so he doesnt care much about them
3. The only reason he was angry so much towards the Leaf Village is because he felt his brothers sacrifise was useless so he...cares only about his brother
4. Kabuto surpassed orochimaru so he probably completely brought mandaras brother back to life.
I agree, if Kabuto was going to pull some emotional strings that is most likely who he would summon
 

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it's madara's real body
he is just a zetsu clone or something
we're gonna need to watch the manga to find out
man i love these theories and stuff it's nice how people search for answers
 

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Ok. So as of the latest chapter we saw that Kabuto was able to summon someone that made Tobi freak out. Now it's been stated before that not only is Madara "a shell of his former self" but that he also plans on using the bijuu to restore his power. Knowing that...here's my theory.

I still stand firmly by the fact that it's not so simple as Tobi=Madara. If that were the case he wouldn't have a mask and there'd be no mystery. I do however think that it is Madara in someone else's body.

If you take that assumption then you may ask what happened to Madara's body? Well, I believe (as of the latest chapter) that Madara wanted to somehow use the power of the bijuu to revive and transfer his soul back into his own body to have the power of his EMS. As it is now, we've never seen Tobi/Madara with any other Sharingan than the 3 tomoe, so I believe he doesn't have either MS nor EMS at the current time.

With all that in mind, I came to the conclusion that Kabuto summoned Madaras body in the final casket. For if my theory is correct and Madara was trying to get his own body back to regain his EMS, then that would certainly explain his reaction when Kabuto summoned it, as Kabuto could destroy it at any time. What else could scare the great Madara soo bad as to give in to someone who wants to kill/experiment on his new pet Sasuke after all Madara did to help Sasuke.

Well there it is. To sum it all up again.

1) Madara is in another body
2) Madara wants to use the power of all the bijuu to restore himself to his original body
3) Kabuto summoned Madara's original body, causing Madara's reaction and sudden change of heart.

Comments appreciated
I agree completely. In the Manga 490 Kabuto gave it away when he says "Uchiha Madara... you truly are in your own league." and then Madara says "wise guy..." which means that he is uchiha madara and saw the irony in the comment,because kabuto summoned his soul which formed his real body into the corpse. Tobi(madara) is the real madara but is in a weak body, thats why everyone refers to it as a shell of his old self.
 

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Wow. Intresting.

As far as we know. The only people Madara/Tobi is scared about is...First Hokage and the Fourth Hokage. These are two possible ninja that can possibly weaken Madara/Tobi.

Quite frankly... I don't think It is SO6P. Kabuto cannot get S06P. If he did then why would he need Sasuke? if he had S06P he could of easily eliminated Tobi/Madara and Sasuke.

Madara was shocked of the last summon Kabuto made.

Don't forget Madara can summon and take control of Kyubi in his supposedly weaken state. Then I am sure this last summon is well capable of defeating kyubi and obivously stronger than kyubi. The only person that comes to my mind is... Harishma and Minato. No one else.

Madara's brother :/ Hmmm there is a possibility it could be his brother. Izuna was very strong equal in every ways to Madara. Itachi said Madara took his eyes by resolving to the method of force. However, Madara refuses this telling sasuke Izuna willing gave up his eye's for sake of the clan.

We don't know who to believe in. Itachi Good guy at times there was more to him than it meets the eye. He said Madara was there to aid him wipe out his clan. That eliminates the thoughts of Tobi not being madara. However, Tobi/Madara spoke the truth of itachi and the supposedly truth of the bond between him and his brother.

The question is who will you believe? Itachi story about how Madara got his EMS or Tobi/Madara story about how Madara got his EMS?

This is why The last coffin could be Izuna Uchiha who led Madara/Tobi to withdraw from the battle with Kabuto.

I think the last summon might be either Minato or Izuna Uchiha.
 

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Wow. Intresting.

As far as we know. The only people Madara/Tobi is scared about is...First Hokage and the Fourth Hokage. These are two possible ninja that can possibly weaken Madara/Tobi.

Quite frankly... I don't think It is SO6P. Kabuto cannot get S06P. If he did then why would he need Sasuke? if he had S06P he could of easily eliminated Tobi/Madara and Sasuke.

Madara was shocked of the last summon Kabuto made.

Don't forget Madara can summon and take control of Kyubi in his supposedly weaken state. Then I am sure this last summon is well capable of defeating kyubi and obivously stronger than kyubi. The only person that comes to my mind is... Harishma and Minato. No one else.

Madara's brother :/ Hmmm there is a possibility it could be his brother. Izuna was very strong equal in every ways to Madara. Itachi said Madara took his eyes by resolving to the method of force. However, Madara refuses this telling sasuke Izuna willing gave up his eye's for sake of the clan.

We don't know who to believe in. Itachi Good guy at times there was more to him than it meets the eye. He said Madara was there to aid him wipe out his clan. That eliminates the thoughts of Tobi not being madara. However, Tobi/Madara spoke the truth of itachi and the supposedly truth of the bond between him and his brother.

The question is who will you believe? Itachi story about how Madara got his EMS or Tobi/Madara story about how Madara got his EMS?

This is why The last coffin could be Izuna Uchiha who led Madara/Tobi to withdraw from the battle with Kabuto.

I think the last summon might be either Minato or Izuna Uchiha.
I wouldn't necessarily say Madara is "scared" of Hashirama and Minato. He admires them both for being able to wound him, the former more than the latter.

And in the last coffin cannot be the First or Fourth Hokage because they are both sealed inside the Shinigami. If Orochimaru tried summoning Minato against Hiruzen during their battle, it was not because Hiruzen managed to stop the coffin, it was because it failed due to the fact that Minato's soul is sealed permanently inside the Shinigami, the one thing an Edo Tensei user needs to revive a person.

Besides, I don't really see a reason for Madara to be so visibly disturbed by Minato. Minato defeated him once in a quick battle of speed, but I don't see him as the "ace up the sleeve" Kabuto brought that forced Madara to join forces with him. Hashirama either. Both are powerful characters, no doubt, but in my opinion the last coffin has something to do with Madara's true identity. In other words, it is a character in the series we have yet to see that will play a massive role in unmasking the person from Akatsuki known as Madara Uchiha.
 

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You guys arent thinking straight who is the one person Mandara is linked to that he would actually care about
1. He never had a wife
2. He killed a ton uchihas with Itachi so he doesnt care much about them
3. The only reason he was angry so much towards the Leaf Village is because he felt his brothers sacrifise was useless so he...cares only about his brother
4. Kabuto surpassed orochimaru so he probably completely brought mandaras brother back to life.
Don't revive old threads, its against the rules.

-Spoiler-
madara is using the body of kakashi's old friend obito thats why you only see 1 eye.
Same thing to you, don't revive old threads.


you will die
Thats not very nice.

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