[Theory] Madara Uchiha and Kabuto's last summon

[Sarito]

That might explain why kabuto said that he hasn't told a soul.

(Madara doesn't want anyone to know he can't use EMS)

 

[StealthShinobi]

r u guys kidding me...u all say tha he doesnt want kabuto to expose him as weak or as an imposter....if that was the case why did he say that he's a mere shell of what he once was used to be to the whole freakin world !!!

 

[Wamphyri]

because a weakened madara is still a bigger thread than some random guy with a sharingan who does not even have to be an uchiha

 

[yusufms]

because a weakened madara is still a bigger thread than some random guy with a sharingan who does not even have to be an uchiha

true, and i have to add that this is one of the more plausible theories

 

[Deidara Akatsuki]

Ok. So as of the latest chapter we saw that Kabuto was able to summon someone that made Tobi freak out. Now it's been stated before that not only is Madara "a shell of his former self" but that he also plans on using the bijuu to restore his power. Knowing that...here's my theory.

I still stand firmly by the fact that it's not so simple as Tobi=Madara. If that were the case he wouldn't have a mask and there'd be no mystery. I do however think that it is Madara in someone else's body.

If you take that assumption then you may ask what happened to Madara's body? Well, I believe (as of the latest chapter) that Madara wanted to somehow use the power of the bijuu to revive and transfer his soul back into his own body to have the power of his EMS. As it is now, we've never seen Tobi/Madara with any other Sharingan than the 3 tomoe, so I believe he doesn't have either MS nor EMS at the current time.

With all that in mind, I came to the conclusion that Kabuto summoned Madaras body in the final casket. For if my theory is correct and Madara was trying to get his own body back to regain his EMS, then that would certainly explain his reaction when Kabuto summoned it, as Kabuto could destroy it at any time. What else could scare the great Madara soo bad as to give in to someone who wants to kill/experiment on his new pet Sasuke after all Madara did to help Sasuke.

Well there it is. To sum it all up again.

1) Madara is in another body
2) Madara wants to use the power of all the bijuu to restore himself to his original body
3) Kabuto summoned Madara's original body, causing Madara's reaction and sudden change of heart.

Comments appreciated

Okay. this is all Good. But you havent mentioned the fact of the tobi/madara personality change.

Tobi = 7 yr old on skittles pissing people like deidara off
Madara = 80+ yr old controlling sasuke

You say that Madara's real body is in the coffin. I disagree.

I would believe it to be anyone... even Orochimaru could be in the coffin and lets be honest... Madara WOULD shit himself. if it was Orochimaru, Because he has shown his concern with the likes of oro when he experimented on Danzou.

So why is there such a personality difference i ask you when tobi was with zetsu getting sasoris ring... there is no need for madara to act childish as he does.

 

[StealthShinobi]

because a weakened madara is still a bigger thread than some random guy with a sharingan who does not even have to be an uchiha

it doesnt make a defferance if he is the real thing or some random uchiha imposter the fact remains that he has 7 bijuus and sasuke and if he is some random uchiha how could u explain all his knowlidge about the history of the uchiha or what happened between itachi and the village not to mension his powers like teleporting and extinguishing ameterasu and controlling the kyuubi last time(since he controlled the kyuubi back then that also means that he must have had an MS)?

 

[harshit188]

well, kabuto said himself that tobi is madara but not in his own body...........so why ur telling that

 

[HiddenShadowNinja]

Okay. this is all Good. But you havent mentioned the fact of the tobi/madara personality change.

Tobi = 7 yr old on skittles pissing people like deidara off
Madara = 80+ yr old controlling sasuke

You say that Madara's real body is in the coffin. I disagree.

I would believe it to be anyone... even Orochimaru could be in the coffin and lets be honest... Madara WOULD shit himself. if it was Orochimaru, Because he has shown his concern with the likes of oro when he experimented on Danzou.

So why is there such a personality difference i ask you when tobi was with zetsu getting sasoris ring... there is no need for madara to act childish as he does.

My explaination to that is Tobi didn't want the rest of Akatsuki to know who he was. He wanted most of them to think Pein was in charge. So he acted like an idiot that couldn't really do anything. But once most of Akatsuki was killed off and only those most loyal to him (Kisame and Zetsu) remained, he could drop the act.

If you've noticed, he hasn't acted like an idiot since before Pein was killed.

 

[Magellan]

I like your 3rd theory

 

[Amantius]

Okay. this is all Good. But you havent mentioned the fact of the tobi/madara personality change.

Tobi = 7 yr old on skittles pissing people like deidara off
Madara = 80+ yr old controlling sasuke

You say that Madara's real body is in the coffin. I disagree.

I would believe it to be anyone... even Orochimaru could be in the coffin and lets be honest... Madara WOULD shit himself. if it was Orochimaru, Because he has shown his concern with the likes of oro when he experimented on Danzou.

So why is there such a personality difference i ask you when tobi was with zetsu getting sasoris ring... there is no need for madara to act childish as he does.

"there is no need for Madara to act so childish as he did" <----- watch that episode again, and watch the new one, where he escape the blast from the clay dude. the point is he was hiding his personality, he did not want any one to know who was calling the shots. Sometimes when your a villan you have to think outside the box. and at the pein scene you saw how Tobi became serious befor he teliport into the -sky. ( if you don't wan't anyone to find out who you are, can't act like your self^_^ Jiraiya did it when he first saw Naruto, OrchiMaru kinda a did it, In the chunnin exam siting next to the 3th posing as the Sand kage.

 

[Sarito]

Okay. this is all Good. But you havent mentioned the fact of the tobi/madara personality change.

Tobi = 7 yr old on skittles pissing people like deidara off
Madara = 80+ yr old controlling sasuke

You say that Madara's real body is in the coffin. I disagree.

I would believe it to be anyone... even Orochimaru could be in the coffin and lets be honest... Madara WOULD shit himself. if it was Orochimaru, Because he has shown his concern with the likes of oro when he experimented on Danzou.

So why is there such a personality difference i ask you when tobi was with zetsu getting sasoris ring... there is no need for madara to act childish as he does.

Orochimaru is inside kabuto isn't he?

 

[HiddenShadowNinja]

Orochimaru is inside kabuto isn't he?

Yes and No...O_O

Kabuto has some of Oro's DNA in him or something to that affect. But the original Orochimaru is eternally trapped in the Sword of Totsuka (sp?) that Itachi used on him with Susan'no (sp?)

(Dang, why does everything have to be so hard to spell in Japanese xd)

 

[jovardo]

well, kabuto said himself that tobi is madara but not in his own body...........so why ur telling that

actually..kabuto said"i come to greet you Tobi, but i heard u go by madara these days"so he didnt say that madara was Tobi. for god sake Tobi is just his name that he sue for akatsuki. and from that it was stated above earlier that Tobi is lying that he madara and from by link that im showing i believe that theory because kabuto did say that u go by madara these day.that means Tobi probably wanted persons to fear him and acknowledge his presence. link here :

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[Typhon]

My explaination to that is Tobi didn't want the rest of Akatsuki to know who he was. He wanted most of them to think Pein was in charge. So he acted like an idiot that couldn't really do anything. But once most of Akatsuki was killed off and only those most loyal to him (Kisame and Zetsu) remained, he could drop the act.

If you've noticed, he hasn't acted like an idiot since before Pein was killed.

But if you remember after Sasori was killed when Tobi and Zetsu went to recover his body, Tobi was still acting like a child. And this was when it was just Tobi and Zetsu. Zetsu has known about Tobi being the real leader of Akatsuki the entire time.

 

[what a drag]

if your theory is correct, who would be that soul inside madara's body??? coz you cannot just summon one body without sacrifice, ryt? tobi can just take the alleged body of madara in an instant because of his teleportation technique...

 

[HiddenShadowNinja]

But if you remember after Sasori was killed when Tobi and Zetsu went to recover his body, Tobi was still acting like a child. And this was when it was just Tobi and Zetsu. Zetsu has known about Tobi being the real leader of Akatsuki the entire time.

That's easy.

Maybe he didn't know who else might be around

Oh...and...

>.>
<.<

Kishi didn't want us to know Tobi was evil at that point in the story

 

[HiddenShadowNinja]

if your theory is correct, who would be that soul inside madara's body??? coz you cannot just summon one body without sacrifice, ryt? tobi can just take the alleged body of madara in an instant because of his teleportation technique...

But what good would that do him? If Kabuto got it once, couldn't he get just summon it again.

Like I said, we don't know what exactly was meant by Kabuto saying he's mastered the jutsu further than Orochimau. This is just a theory, nothing is for certain, and I definitely don't have all the answers

 

[StopDropNRoll]

What if it is Madara's brother. That would be reason enough to surprise him, and most likely Madara's brother was very strong before giving up his eyes.
Thats my favorite idea, followed by So6Ps, Madara himself, and any one of the dead Hokage's

 

[homi313]

ya saying is madara body but have u ever thought that is could be his brother which he killed for his eyes thats why he was scared that is my theory i think is madaras brother

 

[harshit188]

there is no way kabuto summoned madara's body as that jutsu summons dead person's soul not actual body.....plus i have posted an spoiler on who is tobi here...

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