Just pointing out that using bodies with Rikudou Jutsu is a lot inferior to the original owner, he would pretty much be wasting chakra. Assuming that's what you mean by "making Hashirama a puppet".
Madara > Naruto and Sasuke (Without Plot Convenience)
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Actually sasuke destroyed one meteor Naruto fought limbo clones and destroyed the rest with rasenshuriken
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Madara is definitely stronger than Sasuke and Naruto (1 vs 1)
Surely he would have lost as Kaguya against the team 7, but we would have a challenge 1000 times better than that crap of Kaguya =_=
Ah please, stop with this bullshit of BZ>Madara....people are troll o stupid.
Surely he would have lost as Kaguya against the team 7, but we would have a challenge 1000 times better than that crap of Kaguya =_=
Ah please, stop with this bullshit of BZ>Madara....people are troll o stupid.
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Everyone has a mindset, determined by Kishi. If you only see ink people fighting, that's your lookout. It is possible for a character to be wrong, you know.
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Kaguya at least put up a fight. And did all she could do. Madara didn't do anything. He could do so much more like you stated in the OP.
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Madara had now Shinsusenju?
Give me a counter to adult sasuke's Dimension swift and then we talk again
Inb4 featless 3rd Eye feats
Give me a counter to adult sasuke's Dimension swift and then we talk again
Inb4 featless 3rd Eye feats
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Did you miss the part where he killed the 5 Kage, pwned all 9 Bijuu, humiliated Tobirama and killed Sasuke and Naruto?
But in this particular fight, yeah he didn't do much. Probably because Kishi kept him on a leash..
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Naruto totally could have gone Ultimate Bijuu Mode (Basically, he turns into Kurama with spiky gold hair and blue eyes. THis is 50* stronger than normal Bijuu Mode)Madara had now Shinsusenju?
Give me a counter to adult sasuke's Dimension swift and then we talk again
Inb4 featless 3rd feats
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And the fact that he was pompous, arrogant, boastful, overconfident & not possessing nearly as much finesse or being NEARLY as badass as Prime Madara
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Madara's plan was to use the Tsukuyomi, and in one way or another, he succeeded.
He did not want to exterminate people or fight endlessly.
Even against Naruto and Sasuke, he has only created diversions to use the Tsukuyomi. Comparisons with other villains do not make sense.
He did not want to exterminate people or fight endlessly.
Even against Naruto and Sasuke, he has only created diversions to use the Tsukuyomi. Comparisons with other villains do not make sense.
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When he was Edo Tensei'd and just Rinne Tensei'd i.e. blind Madara/with one Rinnegan, he was a complete badass. I was so excited to see him destroy Naruto and Sasuke after he becomes Juubi's jinchuuriki and gets both Rinnegan. After he got one Rinnegan and became Juubi Jin, he got beaten up by Gai. That was fine because it was understandable i.e. he couldn't use Susanoo because he didn't have both eyes, and Mokuton and Limbo would be useless since Gai was way faster. But after absorbing Shinju and gaining two Rinnegan, I had high expectations for him. But he was such a disappointment i.e. got the biggest nerf in Naruto history. Kishi should have though of a better way to deal with him, TBH.
Surely. Kaguya did better than him still.
tbh given how much of a pathetic villain Kaguya was(she was like Naruto with his shadow clones but she had her dimensions) Madara would hv acc been an amazing end boss. I mean you could even have out in symbolically as
1)Sasuke, the current generation villain, was redeemed
2)Obito, the previous generation villain, was redeemed(?)
3)Madara, yet to be defeated
Madara acc didnt get a single power up. Everything he achieved was through his own skill and power. I mean things acc didnt go according to plan and he still adopted to it. Kishi could hv even thrown in some of his bs co-operation shit in but no, he had to go and resurrect Kaguya for her to be murked by Naruto. And dont even get me started on how shit the fight between Sasuke and Naruto was.
1)Sasuke, the current generation villain, was redeemed
2)Obito, the previous generation villain, was redeemed(?)
3)Madara, yet to be defeated
Madara acc didnt get a single power up. Everything he achieved was through his own skill and power. I mean things acc didnt go according to plan and he still adopted to it. Kishi could hv even thrown in some of his bs co-operation shit in but no, he had to go and resurrect Kaguya for her to be murked by Naruto. And dont even get me started on how shit the fight between Sasuke and Naruto was.