Madara > Naruto and Sasuke (Without Plot Convenience)

[PIOLO]

Madara has a rinnesharingan. There is no way to know the extent of madara's capabilities. HOWEVER Both sasuke and naruto have a powerful seal (yin and yang seal) to trap immortal being. But in my opinion the author had no choice but to use "deus ex machina". ONLY KISHI knows every character, he said that he has no idea how to beat him in proper way.

 

[Wparker6804]

Yes. The Gokage, Naruto and Sasuke are all still running around.

Because Madara still failed to finish the job. He crippled Tobirama and Hashirama but didn't seal them. He knocked down the Kage but didn't finish them off. He got Obito's Rinnegan but let him live (why?) and played around with Naruto & Sasuke, letting himself get cut in half. He became stupid as he got more and more powerful.

 

[Itachi san88]

Give me a counter to adult sasuke's Dimension swift and then we talk again

ahaha again with this shit

 

[-immortal-]

ahaha again with this shit

Ofcourse you wouldn't have a counter what includes inside the barriers of kishi's mangascans.

 

[Megatolium]

Ofcourse you wouldn't have a counter what includes inside the barriers of kishi's mangascans.

Shinra Tensei!!! Lol There's an nice counter. And nobody gimme that crap about Sasuke slicing Mads in half. He has both Rinnegan now and has access to everyone's chakra via Infinite Tsukuyomi.

 

[-immortal-]

Shinra Tensei!!! Lol There's an nice counter. And nobody gimme that crap about Sasuke slicing Mads in half. He has both Rinnegan now and has access to everyone's chakra via Infinite Tsukuyomi.

Yeah this some random stuff bruh

 

[Itachi san88]

Ofcourse you wouldn't have a counter what includes inside the barriers of kishi's mangascans.

Do not worry, sooner or later will come out a scan or a movie where you see Sasuke use the dimensions in battle and win.

Ah no, not going to happen because not uses them in battle.

 

[-immortal-]

Do not worry, sooner or later will come out a scan or a movie where you see Sasuke use the dimensions in battle and win.

Ah no, not going to happen because not uses them in battle.

Oh now we start with. They don't use that and that blbla?

Then we are done right?

Madara is fodder and lost his battle? Why are we talking about it then?

 

[super michael]

Nagato jutsu like shinra tensai, chibaku tensai, robot parts, rinne tensai etc are from the Rinnengan which Nagato had. Those jutsu comes from Madara Rinnengan. Madara has his Rinnengan back from Nagato so he should have access to those Rinnengan techniques.

When someone get someone dojutsu they gain access to those powers. Madara didn't risk using hengoku or limbo against Obito when he had rinnengan.

Obito with 1 rinnengan was stated to be able to seal souls but kabuto used a truth serum.

 

[Uchihakil]

totally agree,he can keep switching wiyh limbo,or substitution jutsu to avoid being sealed,his PS infused with juubi chakra would be op as ****,plus the size of his shinsuusenju,PS enhanced with juubi and 10x bigger,stronger more durable shinsuusenju,naru&sasu would have been wrecked

 

[Itachi san88]

Oh now we start with. They don't use that and that blbla?

Then we are done right?

Madara is fodder and lost his battle? Why are we talking about it then?

Lol? You have started with the speech of "fanfiction dimensions", not me

I hope you do not want to "win the debate", by calling Madara "fodder" or insulting characters at random, because I do not give a damn lol

I do not have 5 years.

 

[KesOnFire]

U can't absorb in juubi jin mode would have thought u learned that from obito madara doesn't have shinra tensei stop giving him moves and madara was only able to use obito as a puppet because of bz being attached to him not the rods and what good is hashi with minimal chakra ? Also u forgot Naruto was nerfed in the fight he didn't use the same moves against madara as kaguya and kaguya is way stronger than madara Naruto can match limbo clones and juubi jins lose they're sharigan techs hence why obito couldn't use kamui and sasuke chose to put the bijuus chakra in susanoo instead of himself u can't use susanoo as a juubi jin

^^^^^^This I love this guy always keeps me reading

 

[Uchihakil]

not to mention his chou shinra tensei maybe 10x stronger than tendous,as his chibaku tensei shits on tendous,multifolds

 

[-immortal-]

Lol? You have started with the speech of "fanfiction dimensions", not me

I hope you do not want to "win the debate", by calling Madara "fodder" or insulting characters at random, because I do not give a damn lol

I do not have 5 years.

Wait? Where have you been? Did you not yet know sasuke can travel dimensions?

 

[BlacLord™]

It just pisses me off how Madara conveniently forgot he had Susanoo, Mokuton, Shinsuusenju, Six Paths Jutsu (could've made Hashirama a puppet...) and a whole lot of Rinne OP powers.

What really stopped him from blasting Sasuke and Naruto far away with Shinra Tensei? Why didn't he absorb the Lava Rasenshuriken? Or use Susanoo to block it nonetheless? Shinsuusenju with Perfect Susanoo and Juubi is the ultimate trump card! :/

But then Kishi will probably retcon by saying Madara was saving up chakra...

Madara clearly had far more superior techs up his sleeve but used non of them.

He doesn't have Shinsuusenju, PS is useless against a team of PS and Bijuu Mode and Shinra Tensei? Amenotejikara'd.

He didn't absorb the Rasenshuriken because he was still in shock upon seeing he difference in Naruto and healing from his injuries.

 

[Uchihakil]

Wait? Where have you been? Did you not yet know sasuke can travel dimensions?

and him changing dimensions is chakra taxing,meaning he can do it once,then rest and restore chakra,madara will just kill him and take his eye and give it to his clone,or switch with one of his rinnegan

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Shinra Tensei!!! Lol There's an nice counter. And nobody gimme that crap about Sasuke slicing Mads in half. He has both Rinnegan now and has access to everyone's chakra via Infinite Tsukuyomi.

"That crap about Sasuke cutting Madara in half"

I give this to you. Beyond increased Limbo count and more proficiency with other Rinnegan Jutsus, the extra rinnegan did not change Madara's powers. If he can be outsped and bifurcated by Sasuke with one rinnegan, he can be outsped by sasuke with two.

 

[Itachi san88]

Wait? Where have you been? Did you not yet know sasuke can travel dimensions?

Yes I know, it does in the same way of Obito

That Sasuke uses the dimensions in battle and wins easily as Kaguya is an invention of Sasuke fanboy.

 

[-immortal-]

Yes I know, it does in the same way of Obito

That Sasuke uses the dimensions in battle and wins easily as Kaguya is an invention of Sasuke fanboy.

Lol you didn't know because its not like obito.

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[Kushina san]

"That crap about Sasuke cutting Madara in half"

I give this to you. Beyond increased Limbo count and more proficiency with other Rinnegan Jutsus, the extra rinnegan did not change Madara's powers. If he can be outsped and bifurcated by Sasuke with one rinnegan, he can be outsped by sasuke with two.

Well, in a real battle, where the characters fight seriously and are 100%, it can not easily.

Naruto and Sasuke together > Madara, i agree.

1v1? for me they can not win, sorry.

But this forum is a den of fanboys and haterboy, can not be discussed seriously, so I'll leave the discussion, bye :'(