Madara broke the Gates..

[KingHashirama]

I see that analyzing the situation isn't the best quality of majority of the members. Seeing as everyone is going off of what they say, instead of connecting the pieces and rereading it.


Madara broke out of the lil tiny gates due to this:

1. His chakra had been put to check, him and Hashirama were tired af, so Madara already weakened hella much.

2. Naruto's Rasenshuriken weakened him more. And then Hashirama threw in the gates, that were needed to control a weakened Madara not a full powered Madara.

3. Notice that Hashirama didn't even use the bigger gates which increase in size according to how powerful the thing is. We can witness this against Obito, that he only puts down the gates according to the need.

4. When Madara did the rinne tensei, he returned back to full powered living state (which he had been in starting of their Edo fight), meaning the gates that were put on a weakened Madara were of course going to fail...its kind of common sense..

5. So there you have it how Madara was able to break the Gates.. that weren't even that strong to begin with...

 

[UchihaNagashi]

I see that analyzing the situation isn't the best quality of majority of the members. Seeing as everyone is going off of what they say, instead of connecting the pieces and rereading it.


Madara broke out of the lil tiny gates due to this:

1. His chakra had been put to check, him and Hashirama were tired af, so Madara already weakened hella much.

2. Naruto's Rasenshuriken weakened him more. And then Hashirama threw in the gates, that were needed to control a weakened Madara not a full powered Madara.

3. Notice that Hashirama didn't even use the bigger gates which increase in size according to how powerful the thing is. We can witness this against Obito, that he only puts down the gates according to the need.

4. When Madara did the rinne tensei, he returned back to full powered living state (which he had been in starting of their Edo fight), meaning the gates that were put on a weakened Madara were of course going to fail...its kind of common sense..

5. So there you have it how Madara was able to break the Gates.. that weren't even that strong to begin with...

They were Edo Tensei corpses, so they don't lose stamina or Chãkra.

This way your whole theory is crashed.

 

[-ahhimane-]

Madara started to feel the pain from the Torii Gates. He will do anything to avoid damage from now on.

 

[Chīkara]

They were Edo Tensei corpses, so they don't lose stamina or Chãkra.

This way your whole theory is crashed.

Agree firmly.

/Thread.​

 

[-Sky-]

He smashed those gates like they were butter, lol. Even if they were weakened, that's still a very impressive feat.

 

[KingHashirama]

They were Edo Tensei corpses, so they don't lose stamina or Chãkra.

This way your whole theory is crashed.

ARguing with the Manga I see.. nice to know, when it is a god damn fact that the Hokage couldn't go all out while mainitaining the barrier. =].

I mean its not like Hashirama tired af here right? Hes probably just breathing hard for showing off his breathing skills, huh.

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He smashed those gates like they were butter, lol. Even if they were weakened, that's still a very impressive feat.

Not really. . Since they weren't even meant for a full powered Madara, but for a weakened version of Madara. It kind of pales in comparison to Obito.. and nor is it even emphasized in the manga.. but only by the fans for some reason.

 

[Dantee]

Based on the fact Edo's regenerate stamina. I believe Madara simply got caught on purpose or

maybe he couldn't move while controlling the zetsu to own Obito.

 

[SharinganisOP]

They were Edo Tensei corpses, so they don't lose stamina or Chãkra.

This way your whole theory is crashed.

Incorrect. They can lose chakra. Otherwise they would be able to create limitless amounts of clones, which they can't (as stated by tobirama saying he can only make two.) Also I'll just put these two images here which shows edos are capable of losing chakra:

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[spckoroma]

its still a double edge sword now that he is alive he can die so I think it was retarded for him to bring himself back to life. just to be able to die again.

 

[KingHashirama]

Based on the fact Edo's regenerate stamina. I believe Madara simply got caught on purpose or

maybe he couldn't move while controlling the zetsu to own Obito.

So now the best excuse for Madara losing is he got caught on purpose or he wasn't trying?

-sigh-, lord buddha this base just gets worst and worst.

#Regenerative stamina post was countered by today's chapter. You should've read it before posting.

its still a double edge sword now that he is alive he can die so I think it was retarded for him to bring himself back to life. just to be able to die again.

He has a plan, on top of that Hashirama is weakened, while he is back at full power.

So since Hashirama can't really do anything about him now.. he kind of has the advantage.

 

[Minator93]

Lel the size of gates

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Juubito destroyed gates so strong that made Gamakichi look like an insect U_U

Madara's feat is child's play compared to that

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My take on the matter

 

[Da Best Ever]

ARguing with the Manga I see.. nice to know, when it is a god damn fact that the Hokage couldn't go all out while mainitaining the barrier. =].

I mean its not like Hashirama tired af here right? Hes probably just breathing hard for showing off his breathing skills, huh.

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Not really. . Since they weren't even meant for a full powered Madara, but for a weakened version of Madara. It kind of pales in comparison to Obito.. and nor is it even emphasized in the manga.. but only by the fans for some reason.

u cant say it is weak because madara is weakened, but it is weaker than what was used against obito, there is not any other shinobi that can withstand those so how is it weak???

 

[Imperius]

They were Edo Tensei corpses, so they don't lose stamina or Chãkra.

This way your whole theory is crashed.

Spoiler

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Hashirama panting.
If Kishimoto isn't using logic when creating his manga, then why should you?

 

[Bieber]

When you're revived via Edo Tensei; your chakra regenerates. But from the start, Madara was never at full power. That being said, I agree with you to some extent.

 

[Da Best Ever]

its still a double edge sword now that he is alive he can die so I think it was retarded for him to bring himself back to life. just to be able to die again.

well madara is smart enough to knw the risks of being alive right now but chose to do it anyway, if they beat him its not going to be easy

 

[spckoroma]

He has a plan, on top of that Hashirama is weakened, while he is back at full power.

So since Hashirama can't really do anything about him now.. he kind of has the advantage.[/QUOTE]

still even if he has a plan now he is also at his weakest state. in my op because he can die and even if Hashirama is weakened someone else will kill him.

 

[htmwall]

everybody knows it's pure plot if madara gets instantly stronger by just being revived,edo tensei form have unlimited chakra and regeneration,not to mention kabuto upgraded his body beyond his lifetime's strength.
i don't really care about kishi's logic anymore.he just wants to advance the plot.
at least he could have shown madara and hashirama battling while he was revived instead of this inconsist BS.

 

[AlphaScythian]

I see that analyzing the situation isn't the best quality of majority of the members. Seeing as everyone is going off of what they say, instead of connecting the pieces and rereading it.

Good idea. Lets start.

Madara broke out of the lil tiny gates due to this:
1. His chakra had been put to check, him and Hashirama were tired af, so Madara already weakened hella much.
2. Naruto's Rasenshuriken weakened him more. And then Hashirama threw in the gates, that were needed to control a weakened Madara not a full powered Madara.
3. Notice that Hashirama didn't even use the bigger gates which increase in size according to how powerful the thing is. We can witness this against Obito, that he only puts down the gates according to the need.

Hashirama is not in sage mode and he couldnt make bigger gates? He is visibly tired, wounded.

I highly doubt that both mokuton and preta user was unable to revert the chakra absorption power of lame wooden dragon.
Hashi is out of SM, which is odd giving his stamina. It appears to me that madara has succeed in gaining sage chakra as he wasnt squashed by dragon nor destroyed by giant FRS and easily owned both gates and the tiger.

4. When Madara did the rinne tensei, he returned back to full powered living state (which he had been in starting of their Edo fight), meaning the gates that were put on a weakened Madara were of course going to fail...its kind of common sense..
5. So there you have it how Madara was able to break the Gates.. that weren't even that strong to begin with...

I dont think rinne tensei puts you with full chakra. Who knows.

 

[KingHashirama]

u cant say it is weak because madara is weakened, but it is weaker than what was used against obito, there is not any other shinobi that can withstand those so how is it weak???

It is weak, before it was only meant to restrain that powered Madara...... damn man. He was immobilized.. so what do you mean "withstand those"... rofl. They are only meant for that.

 

[spckoroma]

well madara is smart enough to knw the risks of being alive right now but chose to do it anyway, if they beat him its not going to be easy

you over estimate him. to say it wont be easy in op I think he will be taken down a lot faster then obito was.