Madara and Second Hokage

[2king3]

Hmm, good observation. I like the possibilities. But, it is prob just a continuity error.
+rep anyways for the sharp eye.

Thanks

 

[Minator93]

Well after all Madara was a Leaf Shinobi!!

So he'd know Tobirama's Tech seeing that they fought for the same side U_U

 

[Shouten]

Well Orochimaru got his head on the scrolls with the forbidden jutsus in Konoha.

Then maybe that. Madara and Hashirama was leading Konoha during that time right? Then they are supposed to manage information about the village during the time, which includes the forbidden jutsus.

 

[2king3]

Tobirama's edo tensei wasn't as powerful as Kabuto's. I say it's likely the bodies used in Tobirama's edo tensei weren't self-aware but lifeless puppets. And it must have been a technique designed only for war and thus it's likely the second wanted it to be forbidden unless used in absolute emergencies aka war

But jutsu are perfected over time just like how 4hokage's rasengan was better than j-mans and how naruto's is better than the fourth's

 

[Shouten]

But jutsu are perfected over time just like how 4hokage's rasengan was better than j-mans and how naruto's is better than the fourth's

Exactly. It is idiotic to say that something that is developed at this age is better than when it was first invented over than 50 years ago. That's like saying our electron microscope today is a lot better than Anton Van Leewenhoek's microscope. Of course it is.

 

[Shouten]

Acually the Fourth's Normal rasengan Is Betterthan Naruto's

Rasenshuriken is better than 4th's rasengan Naruto has a lot of variations better than his fathers

 

[2king3]

Acually the Fourth's Normal rasengan Is Betterthan Naruto's

Are you serious?

 

[Shouten]

If Minato had more Time.......

Yes probably, he could have developed the Rasengan a lot better.

 

[2king3]

If Minato had more Time.......

Who's to say we've only seen him use it one time against tobi but what naruto has displayed while using it he has truly become a master of the rasengan.

 

[2king3]

Have a look on Minato 'BASE rasengan and Have a Look on Naruto's.

You're in denial bro you've only seen minato use it one time. How many times have we seen naruto use it and in different ways?

 

[Higekage]

But jutsu are perfected over time just like how 4hokage's rasengan was better than j-mans and how naruto's is better than the fourth's

I know.. You said "why did he invent such an abomination" (Or something like that) and the answer is it wasn't such an abomination when it was invented since the puppets were lifeless

 

[2king3]

I know.. You said "why did he invent such an abomination" (Or something like that) and the answer is it wasn't such an abomination when it was invented since the puppets were lifeless

But these so called puppets where once alive at a point in time I said it was a abomination from how it is being used now from oro to kabuto. How would u feel if had to kill a loved one that was reanimated wouldn't be that easy as shown by choji.

 

[Higekage]

But these so called puppets where once alive at a point in time I said it was a abomination from how it is being used now from oro to kabuto. How would u feel if had to kill a loved one that was reanimated wouldn't be that easy as shown by choji.

Yea but Asuma was self-aware, he wasn't lifeless. Compare him to the Tobirama and Hashirama Hiruzen had to fight. As far as I remember they were completely devoid of life (Same with any edo Kabuto stops controlling)

So if the technique worked like Kabuto is using it back when Tobirama invented it, Tobirama should be considered an "evil" character having created a true abomination, but since the bodies were probably lifeless and only used for their abilities it's not that bad

 

[2king3]

Yea but Asuma was self-aware, he wasn't lifeless. Compare him to the Tobirama and Hashirama Hiruzen had to fight. As far as I remember they were completely devoid of life (Same with any edo Kabuto stops controlling)

So if the technique worked like Kabuto is using it back when Tobirama invented it, Tobirama should be considered an "evil" character having created a true abomination, but since the bodies were probably lifeless and only used for their abilities it's not that bad

If you go back in read the manga Kabuto said that he kept some of their personalities intact purposely he could have made them lifeless just like oro did the first n second. Another reason why oro kept them this way probably is bcuz the second made the jutsu he could have released himself just like madara did. And you at like just bcuz they weren't speaking it made it less of an abomination to the ninja world.

 

[Prime Rib]

the technique is a neutral technique, it can be used for both good and evil purporses, the reason tobirama was proboly developing was so he could protect the leaf village from threats by bringing back the strongest of shinobis. but he labeled it a kinjutsu and never worked on it again cause he understood how bad and dangerous of a technique he made

 

[zeezzay]

Madarra sister was married tobimaraa who had a son called tobi that's explain why tobi can activate the ringegan and hates uchiha cause he s half senju he also can use the same technique as tobimaraa also e contains the name tobi from tobimaraa just like ino takes her name from her father inochou whatever his name is.also it was tobimaraa that formed or help uchih with the police force madarra is tobimaraa brother in law that their connection this sounds so funny could be true

 

[yellowxflash]

tobirama beat him and felt sorry for him and taught edo release

 

[2king3]

Yea probably I just wanted to point this out.

 

[AP2k]

If it was forbidden he must have used it, madara would be a fool not to ask about it. Remember madara and the first were originally friends so he was probably acquainted with the second.

 

[2king3]

Truuuuuuu