Konoha 11 Has Grown Stronger than the Akatsuki

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the point is kakuzu couldve wiped them out by himself it kakashi wasnt there. if one akatsuki member has the power to take on adleast 2-4 members, itachi alone could beat most of them with his genjutsu, then theres deidara, hidan, and kisame. all of these members can take on adleast 2 of k11 while kakuzu, kisame and itachi can easily take on 3.

how is k11 winning this
When did i say k11 can take down whole Akatsuki?
I was speaking of k11 vs 1 member of Akatsuki (individually), i think k11 as a whole would beat Kakuzu.
 

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When did i say k11 can take down whole Akatsuki?
I was speaking of k11 vs 1 member of Akatsuki (individually), i think k11 as a whole would beat Kakuzu.

so your arguing that a group of 11 people can jump someone and win a fight :|.
 

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Sasori, Kisame, Kakuzu, and Deidara are all individually superior to any K11 member. Itachi, Obito, and Pein are all in another league.
 

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The K11 stomps Kakuzu altogether. Jeebus.
 

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current choji can beat kakuzu,
shikamaru can beat hidan and already did that
sasori can be beaten by current sakura
deidara can be taken out with a tag team like sai, neji and hinata
konan would be beaten by lee with 6 gates

they can beat all the lower tier akatsuki is what the OP is trying to say and the rest such as itachi, nagato, kisame and obito they can't beaten unless you add naruto and sasuke who are technically K11.
 

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current choji can beat kakuzu,
shikamaru can beat hidan and already did that
sasori can be beaten by current sakura
deidara can be taken out with a tag team like sai, neji and hinata
konan would be beaten by lee with 6 gates

they can beat all the lower tier akatsuki is what the OP is trying to say and the rest such as itachi, nagato, kisame and obito they can't beaten unless you add naruto and sasuke who are technically K11.

choji has nothing on kakuzu. kakuzu already proved he's > chouji in tai and almost killed him. he goes in butter fly mode and he eats a bowl of op jutsus all day. chouji dies.

sakura doesnt have her antidote anymore so she is poisoned and dies.

konan is papar, explain to me how kicking paper is going to beat her

shikamaru beat hidan with prep, how is he beating him now
 

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Sasori, Kisame, Kakuzu, and Deidara are all individually superior to any K11 member. Itachi, Obito, and Pein are all in another league.

kakuzu would get crushed like an ant by choji at full strength. choji was able to hold gedo mazo at bay even if its for a little time its a very impressive feat. sakura can beat sasori now are you kidding me she is near invincible and has good feats from the war. kisame is agreeable. deidara is not nearly as strong as you make him out to be lee in 6 gates is a good match. ans the other 3 are way beyond k11 unless naruto or sauske is included
 

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kakuzu would get crushed like an ant by choji at full strength. choji was able to hold gedo mazo at bay even if its for a little time its a very impressive feat. sakura can beat sasori now are you kidding me she is near invincible and has good feats from the war. kisame is agreeable. deidara is not nearly as strong as you make him out to be lee in 6 gates is a good match. ans the other 3 are way beyond k11 unless naruto or sauske is included

kakuzu isnt some slow s-ranked ninja. if chouji grows then he turns into a giant target for his 5 elements. sakura doesnt have the antidote to his poison so she loses, she doesnt even have a way to stop sasori just like she never had a way when she fought him the first time.
 

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konan is papar, explain to me how kicking paper is going to beat her
6th gate grants the usage of Asakujaku (morning peacock) which are flaming punches. If lee can use Asakujaku he can burn Konan.
 

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6th gate grants the usage of Asakujaku (morning peacock) which are flaming punches. If lee can use Asakujaku he can burn Konan.

If lee can use it then what If its a clone and konan appears behind him and kills him. lee has never shown to be in any good shape after using a gates tech and i doubt he would be in one If he can use asakujaku. the odds are against him in this fight
 

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choji has nothing on kakuzu. kakuzu already proved he's > chouji in tai and almost killed him. he goes in butter fly mode and he eats a bowl of op jutsus all day. chouji dies.

sakura doesnt have her antidote anymore so she is poisoned and dies.

konan is papar, explain to me how kicking paper is going to beat her

shikamaru beat hidan with prep, how is he beating him now

kakuzu is a freaking ant compared to choji he is so surpassed by this time and that choji is weak in butterfly mode he gets much stronger show me any feat of kakuzu lasting a second against gedo mazo and he would have a shot.

sakura would rip him to shreds way b4 that she destroyed little juubi monsters like nothing and sasori has no speed feats and can easily get hit and even by the remote chance she gets poisoned she doesn't die immediately and has chances to cure herself or by like tsunade.

shadow strangle no jutsu he got stronger as well and he knows his weakness so how would he lose you can't take knowledge a person already has as thats how ninja battles work.

lee at 6 gates gives devastating attacks its hard to imagine konan coming out of that alive but we haven't seen the extent to which she can keep taking hits but that would be a difficult fight on both sides.
 

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If lee can use it then what If its a clone and konan appears behind him and kills him. lee has never shown to be in any good shape after using a gates tech and i doubt he would be in one If he can use asakujaku. the odds are against him in this fight

lee at just 6 gates would be fast enough for konan to not keep up and he already seen his sensei use it even without his attacks are devastating the only way he loses if konan can outlast him.
 

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They are only effective apart when destroying/invading konoha. The six paths need to be in close proximity to beat K11 but I already said I'm talking about early shippuden Akatsuki . No Obito no pain


So they are only effective apart when offensively destroying arguably the strongest Shinobi village. I mean, its not like the Village is just sitting there like, "Please kill me." So really, you're saying the Paths are effective when operating independently...though are FAR more so when acting together. Attacking a village isn't just some lame thing you toss aside you know...

If the paths fought the K11 1v11, obviously they'd lose except Tendo Pain. But if they start a fight against the K11 and are all together than yeah they'd win.

And, Pain was there from Part I Naruto...so Early Akatsuki basically limits it to Kisame and Itachi...
 

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kakuzu is a freaking ant compared to choji he is so surpassed by this time and that choji is weak in butterfly mode he gets much stronger show me any feat of kakuzu lasting a second against gedo mazo and he would have a shot.

sakura would rip him to shreds way b4 that she destroyed little juubi monsters like nothing and sasori has no speed feats and can easily get hit and even by the remote chance she gets poisoned she doesn't die immediately and has chances to cure herself or by like tsunade.

shadow strangle no jutsu he got stronger as well and he knows his weakness so how would he lose you can't take knowledge a person already has as thats how ninja battles work.

lee at 6 gates gives devastating attacks its hard to imagine konan coming out of that alive but we haven't seen the extent to which she can keep taking hits but that would be a difficult fight on both sides.

so because chouji is strong he just beats everyone? might as well say sakura punches half the akatsuki members to death Lol. taking of the gedo mezu has nothing to do with this fight. you have yet to explain how chouji takes down kakauzu and his fast 5 hearts as they swarm him. kakuzu isnt some fodder who's going to get stepped on. not to mention kakuzu is already faster then chouji to begin with

sasori has no speed feats? neither does sakura! you have no points. sakura has no antidote. sakura was overwhelmed in her fight with sasori. sakura was trapped and almost killed when she went in to fight him alone. sakura almost died fighting the 100 puppets. sakura has no antidote. once she gets hit with her average speed feats she's dead. once she breaks his first puppet she is poisoned and she dies. if she breaks that she is swarmed by the 100 puppets and get poisoned and dies

you still have yet to explain what shikamaru can do without any prep time, is he going to strangle an immortal? good luck with that Lol

lee hits hard, konan is paper. do you see where this is going? konan turns into paper and disperses. nothing physical that lee can do will have any effect. Lmao thats like saying lee goes 6 gates and beats suigetsu who is made out of water and thus immune to normal physical damage. Its the same thing! Lol is lee going to go around punching each individual piece of paper? then he tires out due to the backlash of using the gates
 
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kakuzu isnt some slow s-ranked ninja. if chouji grows then he turns into a giant target for his 5 elements. sakura doesnt have the antidote to his poison so she loses, she doesnt even have a way to stop sasori just like she never had a way when she fought him the first time.

big but also a tank that took on gedo mazo even for a few minutes is amazing he can get hit and not die. and being means his range is amazing kakuzu escaping that is hard to dodge and choji has control over the size he is.

are u seriously suggesting that sakura is the same person she was when she fought sasori if so you haven't been reading she is much stronger and faster and can take his regular attacks. and she can land hits on sasori much easier than vice versa. she beat jubbi clones as if it were nothing and one hit from sakura sasori is gone where as poison does't kill instantly.
 

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lee at just 6 gates would be fast enough for konan to not keep up and he already seen his sensei use it even without his attacks are devastating the only way he loses if konan can outlast him.

She is paper do you not know what paper is?!
 

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people believe that K11> akatsuki :|

the only way any of them stand a chance against sasori is with prep time= antidote even then they still might lose
itachi/kisame/pain rape them no questions asked

deidara solos with C4

kakazu could solo.. he took on team 10 and kakashi and was winning... the only reason they got so far was because of trickery

none defeat konan..
only wit knowledge they beat hidan
 

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K11 would only beat them with Lots and Lots of Prep time.

Without it, They'll all get solo'd (even Sakura and Lee)
 

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so because chouji is strong he just beats everyone? might as well say sakura punches half the akatsuki members to death Lol. taking of the gedo mezu has nothing to do with this fight. you have yet to explain how chouji takes down kakauzu and his fast 5 hearts as they swarm him. kakuzu isnt some fodder who's going to get stepped on. not to mention kakuzu is already faster then chouji to begin with

sasori has no speed feats? neither does sakura! you have no points. sakura has no antidote. sakura was overwhelmed in her fight with sasori. sakura was trapped and almost killed when she went in to fight him alone. sakura almost died fighting the 100 puppets. sakura has no antidote. once she gets hit with her average speed feats she's dead. once she breaks his first puppet she is poisoned and she dies. if she breaks that she is swarmed by the 100 puppets and get poisoned and dies

you still have yet to explain what shikamaru can do without any prep time, is he going to strangle an immortal? good luck with that Lol

lee hits hard, konan is paper. do you see where this is going? konan turns into paper and disperses. nothing physical that lee can do will have any effect. Lmao thats like saying lee goes 6 gates and beats suigetsu who is made out of water and thus immune to normal physical damage. Its the same thing! Lol is lee going to go around punching each individual piece of paper? then he tires out due to the backlash of using the gates


his attacks aren't regular attacks as mentioned above he can use morning peacock and is much faster than konan show me konan speed feats than talk.

choji is strong and a tank small scale attacks are not effective and what do you mean that gedo mazo doesn't matter it shows how strong choji is u still see them as the beginning of part 2 which means you don't see their improvement.


tell me how sakura is slow she is quite fast now and strong and one punch and sasori and his puppets are gone she can tank regular attacks and she knows sasori has poison too in a regular assuming they have info like in the show fight sakura beats sasori
 
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