Konoha 11 Has Grown Stronger than the Akatsuki

arv993 · Jul 25, 2014

ShiroT said:
She is paper do you not know what paper is?!

u kno what fire is

paratise · Jul 25, 2014

ShiroT said:
If lee can use it then what If its a clone and konan appears behind him and kills him. lee has never shown to be in any good shape after using a gates tech and i doubt he would be in one If he can use asakujaku. the odds are against him in this fight

Gated attacks are executed quite quickly, Konan won't have time for substutition since she has no reaction feats for it.
He was actually, he was using his gates (6 of them) during Madara vs Gai fight which covered several chapters and he have shown little to no sign of fatigue after them.

Gai opened the 8th gate for first time yet he could use Evening Elephant and Night Guy. Lee could use front lotus and reverse lotus in their respective gates in part 1. It is highly probably that he can use Asakujaku.

Tennis Robot · Jul 25, 2014

Do you really believe that Team Guy, Team 8, Team 10, and Sakura can beat Nagato, Obito, Itachi, Kisame, Kakuzu, Deidara, Konan, Sasori, and Hidan?

ShiroT · Jul 25, 2014

arv993 said:
big but also a tank that took on gedo mazo even for a few minutes is amazing he can get hit and not die. and being means his range is amazing kakuzu escaping that is hard to dodge and choji has control over the size he is.

are u seriously suggesting that sakura is the same person she was when she fought sasori if so you haven't been reading she is much stronger and faster and can take his regular attacks. and she can land hits on sasori much easier than vice versa. she beat jubbi clones as if it were nothing and one hit from sakura sasori is gone where as poison does't kill instantly.

im suggesting that sakura isnt fast. sakura has no antidote. if she gets hit once by sasori she dies. you want to talk about speed feats? sakura has little speed feats. sakura cant take his regular hits because all of his hits are poisoned. sakura may have gotten stronger but she has no feats to suggest she can dodge all of sasori's attacks, and the 100 puppets without getting hit once. the juubi clones were fodders. they didnt even do anything.

show me chouji's tanking feats.

ShiroT · Jul 25, 2014

BijuuBomber said:
Gated attacks are executed quite quickly, Konan won't have time for substutition since she has no reaction feats for it.
He was actually, he was using his gates (6 of them) during Madara vs Gai fight which covered several chapters and he have shown little to no sign of fatigue after them.

Gai opened the 8th gate for first time yet he could use Evening Elephant and Night Guy. Lee could use front lotus and reverse lotus in their respective gates in part 1. It is highly probably that he can use Asakujaku.

im talkng about using gated techs. not the gates, the techniques that came with each gate. all the different lotuses. everytime lee has used a gated tech he was left very weakened. and you do know guy trained and thought lee lotus?

gates may be quick but it was never to the point when nobody didnt have time to react. gaara, kisame, and madara all say guy/lee going gates. saying konan wouldnt be able to react is ludicrous. If lee could use it konan would be ready as going gates isnt this instant thing it takes a few seconds, and once the tech is done, lee would be out of shape for battle.

arv993 · Jul 25, 2014

ShiroT said:
im suggesting that sakura isnt fast. sakura has no antidote. if she gets hit once by sasori she dies. you want to talk about speed feats? sakura has little speed feats. sakura cant take his regular hits because all of his hits are poisoned. sakura may have gotten stronger but she has no feats to suggest she can dodge all of sasori's attacks, and the 100 puppets without getting hit once. the juubi clones were fodders. they didnt even do anything.

show me chouji's tanking feats.

fodders haha more like something sasori coulsn't hope to defeat as fast and efficiently as sakura. even hashirama was impressed they were not easily dealt with. that alone shows she is above sasori one hit from sasori who is not fast at all especially the way he starts off in battle he would lsoe.

on my phone right now so can't for that but like i said choji can take damage to a certain extent such using his arms to block attacks if he was that weak as in can't take a hit he would have not lasted a second with gedo mazo.

arv993 · Jul 25, 2014

ShiroT said:
im talkng about using gated techs. not the gates, the techniques that came with each gate. all the different lotuses. everytime lee has used a gated tech he was left very weakened. and you do know guy trained and thought lee lotus?

gates may be quick but it was never to the point when nobody didnt have time to react. gaara, kisame, and madara all say guy/lee going gates. saying konan wouldnt be able to react is ludicrous. If lee could use it konan would be ready as going gates isnt this instant thing it takes a few seconds, and once the tech is done, lee would be out of shape for battle.

if she gets hit by morning peacock shes done an lee can do that quite fast she has no speed feats to stop it. it doesn't matter if konan is ready or not she can't react to it.

ShiroT · Jul 25, 2014

arv993 said:
his attacks aren't regular attacks as mentioned above he can use morning peacock and is much faster than konan show me konan speed feats than talk.

choji is strong and a tank small scale attacks are not effective and what do you mean that gedo mazo doesn't matter it shows how strong choji is u still see them as the beginning of part 2 which means you don't see their improvement.

tell me how sakura is slow she is quite fast now and strong and one punch and sasori and his puppets are gone she can tank regular attacks and she knows sasori has poison too in a regular assuming they have info like in the show fight sakura beats sasori

dear lord do you not read? is hard to understand? SAKURA CAN NOT TANK ANY OF SASORI'S ATTACKS. if she so much as gets scratched she will die. she has no antidote. she one punched sasori's puppets before in her fight and she wouldve died 6 TIMES without chiyo. what is so hard to understand? Are you just a fanboy? sakura has no feats thats suggests she can beat sasori's first puppet, beat the kazekage and the 100 puppets without getting scratched once.

im saying chouji hitting hard has nothing to do with this fight. kakuzu is way faster then chouji. you keep saying chouji is a tank, show me his tanking feats.

lee has never done morning peacock. Lmao konan doesnt need speed feats. to go gates it takes a few seconds, that is plenty of time for konan to turn into paper or make a clone. IF lee could do morning peacock it would be wasted on a clone or not even touch her. konan can easily get out of it. and again once he uses it once or twice he would be to weak to fight

ShiroT · Jul 25, 2014

arv993 said:
fodders haha more like something sasori coulsn't hope to defeat as fast and efficiently as sakura. even hashirama was impressed they were not easily dealt with. that alone shows she is above sasori one hit from sasori who is not fast at all especially the way he starts off in battle he would lsoe.

on my phone right now so can't for that but like i said choji can take damage to a certain extent such using his arms to block attacks if he was that weak as in can't take a hit he would have not lasted a second with gedo mazo.

hashirama was impressed with how powerful her swings are. that has nothing to do with her speed. HITTING HARD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW FAST YOUR ARE. she's already punched sasori before and he survived everytime.

sasori wouldve destroyed them with his black sand.

did the gedo mezu even hit chouji

Tennis Robot · Jul 25, 2014

For one, the K11 have no lightning style users and thus no way of neutralizing Deidara's bombs. They are mostly made up of taijutsu specialists, who are susceptible to Deidara's ranged attacks, Nagato's ranged attacks (Asura), Hidan's technique, Itachi's genjutsu/Totsuka, and Samehada. They have no cure for Sasori's poison. Their only long-range threats are Tenten's projectiles and Shino's bugs (they have literally 0 elemental ninjutsu). They have no noteworthy genjutsu either. Almost all of their damage would be coming from their 5 fairly strong taijutsu specialists and their 1 mediocre one. Having about 80% of their damage on the front line against the myriad of potent damage threats that the Akatsuki has would be suicide. They are just completely overpowered on all fronts aside from intelligence (Shikamaru is probably a better strategist than Itachi) and I guess close-quarter combat, but that's more of an advantage for the Akatsuki anyway.

I would say that, at best, they would be able to kill 2 Akatsuki members.

ShiroT · Jul 25, 2014

arv993 said:
if she gets hit by morning peacock shes done an lee can do that quite fast she has no speed feats to stop it. it doesn't matter if konan is ready or not she can't react to it.

kisame reacted, madara reacted.

Natsu Shazneel · Jul 25, 2014

K-11 needs Naruto and Sasuke to win these. Other wise its a unfair fight.

paratise · Jul 25, 2014

You are giving me impression of a person...who does not know what he is talking about.

ShiroT said:
im talkng about using gated techs. not the gates, the techniques that came with each gate. all the different lotuses.

1st gate = Front lotus.
3/5 gates = Reverse lotus.
Not so much. He have shown the techs in respective gates

everytime lee has used a gated tech he was left very weakened.

Yeah when he was like 13. He is almost an adult now.
Enters with something below 6th gate: