Konoha 11 Has Grown Stronger than the Akatsuki

[TheUnbiasedOne]

Lelz Kiba broke the gates that 4tail Nardo couldn't brake, lelz statd the thing was IMPROVED from the one oro made that 4tails couldn't brake, yet Kiba broke like 10 of the *****es XD

Exactly. Using Anime, Kiba is = 6T naruto

 

[SolarSpider]

How can shino survive shinra tensei?

The way his family survived the first time.....

Anime isn't canon. If it was, K11 would have serious S-Rank feats.

What are you talking about, the Jutsu he used to summon the giant beetles was manga only. The anime hasn't made it that far yet.

 

[BLAZE]

The way his family survived the first time......

dat logic awesome XD

 

[Mellow]

The way his family survived the first time.....



What are you talking about, the Jutsu he used to summon the giant beetles was manga only. The anime hasn't made it that far yet.

In a 1v1 pain vs shi no? Yeah shinra tensei would send his ass flyin

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

The way his family survived the first time.....



What are you talking about, the Jutsu he used to summon the giant beetles was manga only. The anime hasn't made it that far yet.

I was under the impression he meant Torunes 1 touch kill beetles that he replicated.

 

[CDT23]

K11 took out 4

Sasori > mostly chiyos doing, sakura would've died
Hidan + Kakazu> an earn end victory
Pain> Naruto

I partially agree. Hidan and Kakazu was all them. Sasori would woop them all. Chiyo and Kankuro are the only one who is capable of taking on sasori with less than 50 win extremely high diff.
Nagato kinda just suicide so I dont really count thag as a win. Like how I don't consider Itachi ever losing, he planned to die

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

I partially agree. Hidan and Kakazu was all them. Sasori would woop them all. Chiyo and Kankuro are the only one who is capable of taking on sasori with less than 50 win extremely high diff.
Nagato kinda just suicide so I dont really count thag as a win. Like how I don't consider Itachi ever losing, he planned to die

Just like I don't consider you reading the chapter. Since you planned to read.

 

[SolarSpider]

In a 1v1 pain vs shi no? Yeah shinra tensei would send his ass flyin

Pain can only focus on one target at a time. Shino can release a lottttt of insects.... Two options for ST. 1 he grabs Shino, who likely starts releasing insects the moment he sees the ST Pain path. So he can't defend agasint the bugs. 2- Shino releases the bugs and the ST path has to almighty push them away, then he can just flood him with the bugs again.

Point is ST path doesn't simply solo Shino. However, we don't know what kind of effect the Kikachu would have on a corpse being fed charka so It's unlikely Shino would win. If Shino used clones and insects correctly and managed to get close enough to lay a single finer on ST path, the summon beetle would molest ST path before he could react.

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

Anime isn't canon. If it was, K11 would have serious S-Rank feats.

Shino does have the parasite insect which would kill someone if it went in them.



OT: Unlikely.


The only people who've displayed the fire power to even Survive against Akatsuki are Sakura and Lee honestly. The rest have practically no feats to make them relevant. The closest is Neji, but that's not saying much.



Fire Power: Choji fought with the Mazou for a few seconds, but did basically nothing. He'd still be taken out by the Shinra tensei thst took the Giant Toads. In terms of fire power, the K11 is far outclassed. Not one of them has shown an elemental ninjutsu. Only Sakura and Lee have shown anything close to an S-Rank damage output..but thats only in taijutsu.

Comparatively, Akatsuki has Shinra Tensei, Great Water Shark Bomb Jutsu, C-4 Karura, Kakuzu's various elements, etc.


CQC: Virtually useless. Kisame survived the 7th gate. Kakuzu is immune. Hiram is immortal. Shinra tensei blocks. Sasori and Deidara have flight (still susceptible to Lee), Konan is pseudo intangible, Kisame has the Water Dome, Zetsu has the mayfly tech.

Unique Ability: Honestly Akatsuki's play pin.


K11- Sakura, Lee, Tenten, Neji, Kiba, Hinata, and Chouji ALL are taijutsu/physical fighters. Which is largely countered by Akatsuki's own special powers. Ino, Shino, Shikamaru, and Sai (if you're counting him as the 11th) are the only ones with true ranged combat.

Ino: mind transfer effects at best two: of which 2 Akatsuki members can die and revive. One can tank virtually fatal injury, a fourth is a genjutsu specialist.

Sai: Artwork doesn't work in water: Kisame and Itachi have Suiton. We've seen use of Amaterasu cause storms. His art hasn't done much to be warranted a true lethal threat.

Shikamaru: he tires out without much time. Nagato,, Kakuzu, and Itachi can all fight stationary.

Shino: Bugs easily blown back between bombs, Katon, fuuton, Water Dome, or Shinra Tensei.


Akatsuki has every element. Move copying Sharingan, ultimate defense and sealing sword, poison thst kills in one scratch, two pseudo intangibles, and an immortal. They own this department.

Size: K11 has literally never been shown fighting as a single fighting unit. Shikamaru isn't guaranteed 100% Intel. Even WITH a plan he almost fails. Hell Kakuzu's Gian kills him and Choji if not for Kakashi being a pro. In terms of scale, not one K11 member has more range or scale than Kisame, Nagato, or Kakuzu.


Akatsuki still wins this.

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

Pain is only powerful together.

 

[BLAZE]

Shino does have the parasite insect which would kill someone if it went in them.



OT: Unlikely.


The only people who've displayed the fire power to even Survive against Akatsuki are Sakura and Lee honestly. The rest have practically no feats to make them relevant. The closest is Neji, but that's not saying much.



Fire Power: Choji fought with the Mazou for a few seconds, but did basically nothing. He'd still be taken out by the Shinra tensei thst took the Giant Toads. In terms of fire power, the K11 is far outclassed. Not one of them has shown an elemental ninjutsu. Only Sakura and Lee have shown anything close to an S-Rank damage output..but thats only in taijutsu.

Comparatively, Akatsuki has Shinra Tensei, Great Water Shark Bomb Jutsu, C-4 Karura, Kakuzu's various elements, etc.


CQC: Virtually useless. Kisame survived the 7th gate. Kakuzu is immune. Hiram is immortal. Shinra tensei blocks. Sasori and Deidara have flight (still susceptible to Lee), Konan is pseudo intangible, Kisame has the Water Dome, Zetsu has the mayfly tech.

Unique Ability: Honestly Akatsuki's play pin.


K11- Sakura, Lee, Tenten, Neji, Kiba, Hinata, and Chouji ALL are taijutsu/physical fighters. Which is largely countered by Akatsuki's own special powers. Ino, Shino, Shikamaru, and Sai (if you're counting him as the 11th) are the only ones with true ranged combat.

Ino: mind transfer effects at best two: of which 2 Akatsuki members can die and revive. One can tank virtually fatal injury, a fourth is a genjutsu specialist.

Sai: Artwork doesn't work in water: Kisame and Itachi have Suiton. We've seen use of Amaterasu cause storms. His art hasn't done much to be warranted a true lethal threat.

Shikamaru: he tires out without much time. Nagato,, Kakuzu, and Itachi can all fight stationary.

Shino: Bugs easily blown back between bombs, Katon, fuuton, Water Dome, or Shinra Tensei.


Akatsuki has every element. Move copying Sharingan, ultimate defense and sealing sword, poison thst kills in one scratch, two pseudo intangibles, and an immortal. They own this department.

Size: K11 has literally never been shown fighting as a single fighting unit. Shikamaru isn't guaranteed 100% Intel. Even WITH a plan he almost fails. Hell Kakuzu's Gian kills him and Choji if not for Kakashi being a pro. In terms of scale, not one K11 member has more range or scale than Kisame, Nagato, or Kakuzu.


Akatsuki still wins this.

Damn
The Solo Aura is too strong in this

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Shino does have the parasite insect which would kill someone if it went in them.



OT: Unlikely.


The only people who've displayed the fire power to even Survive against Akatsuki are Sakura and Lee honestly. The rest have practically no feats to make them relevant. The closest is Neji, but that's not saying much.



Fire Power: Choji fought with the Mazou for a few seconds, but did basically nothing. He'd still be taken out by the Shinra tensei thst took the Giant Toads. In terms of fire power, the K11 is far outclassed. Not one of them has shown an elemental ninjutsu. Only Sakura and Lee have shown anything close to an S-Rank damage output..but thats only in taijutsu.

Comparatively, Akatsuki has Shinra Tensei, Great Water Shark Bomb Jutsu, C-4 Karura, Kakuzu's various elements, etc.


CQC: Virtually useless. Kisame survived the 7th gate. Kakuzu is immune. Hiram is immortal. Shinra tensei blocks. Sasori and Deidara have flight (still susceptible to Lee), Konan is pseudo intangible, Kisame has the Water Dome, Zetsu has the mayfly tech.

Unique Ability: Honestly Akatsuki's play pin.


K11- Sakura, Lee, Tenten, Neji, Kiba, Hinata, and Chouji ALL are taijutsu/physical fighters. Which is largely countered by Akatsuki's own special powers. Ino, Shino, Shikamaru, and Sai (if you're counting him as the 11th) are the only ones with true ranged combat.

Ino: mind transfer effects at best two: of which 2 Akatsuki members can die and revive. One can tank virtually fatal injury, a fourth is a genjutsu specialist.

Sai: Artwork doesn't work in water: Kisame and Itachi have Suiton. We've seen use of Amaterasu cause storms. His art hasn't done much to be warranted a true lethal threat.

Shikamaru: he tires out without much time. Nagato,, Kakuzu, and Itachi can all fight stationary.

Shino: Bugs easily blown back between bombs, Katon, fuuton, Water Dome, or Shinra Tensei.


Akatsuki has every element. Move copying Sharingan, ultimate defense and sealing sword, poison thst kills in one scratch, two pseudo intangibles, and an immortal. They own this department.

Size: K11 has literally never been shown fighting as a single fighting unit. Shikamaru isn't guaranteed 100% Intel. Even WITH a plan he almost fails. Hell Kakuzu's Gian kills him and Choji if not for Kakashi being a pro. In terms of scale, not one K11 member has more range or scale than Kisame, Nagato, or Kakuzu.


Akatsuki still wins this.

Don't think the op will live after this. +1 rep

 

[N o i r]

Nope, only Naruto and Sasuke can take on ppl from the akatsuki. The rest can't without someone stronger than them helping them out.

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

Pain is only powerful together.

Incorrect. Actually, Nagato could use the Path abilities faster and at a significantly higher level than when split.


As for each path individually, even alone they were a threat.

Human: already seen having evaded/moved by Ino, Ibiki, and Anbu to take out Shizune.

Animal: summoned various creatures thst the 3 giant toads alone struggled with. Took Naruto plus a giant Toad to defeat.

Asura: Defeated while attacking Tsunade not Naruto (allowing Naruto to just jump on it). Also I believe defeated keeping Tendo save by, yet again, dropping in late comers to a fight. Had extra limbs, a seeming laser, missiles, and knives for days.

Tendo: Solo'd Konoha. Solo'd the three great frogs. Solo'd SM Naruto after killing Pa.SM Naruto fest wise > any K11 member except MAYBE Sakura. And that's honestly only because of Sakura's healing. Then again, Rasenshuriken defeats her chakra network.

Only Naraka and Preta have an overall low combat score here, and that's because 1. Naraka, who tanked a Rasengan from Konohamaru, is a White Mage (he heals/revives), and 2. The K11 literally have like one or two Jutsu users...so Preta isn't needed.

 

[Conspirator.]

Incorrect. Actually, Nagato could use the Path abilities faster and at a significantly higher level when split.


As for each path individually, even alone they were a threat.

Human: already seen having evaded/moved by Ino, Ibiki, and Anbu to take out Shizune.

Animal: summoned various creatures thst the 3 giant toads alone struggled with. Took Naruto plus a giant Toad to defeat.

Asura: Defeated while attacking Tsunade not Naruto (allowing Naruto to just jump on it). Also I believe defeated keeping Tendo save by, yet again, dropping in late comers to a fight. Had extra limbs, a seeming laser, missiles, and knives for days.

Tendo: Solo'd Konoha. Solo'd the three great frogs. Solo'd SM Naruto after killing Pa.SM Naruto fest wise > any K11 member except MAYBE Sakura. And that's honestly only because of Sakura's healing. Then again, Rasenshuriken defeats her chakra network.

Only Naraka and Preta have an overall low combat score here, and that's because 1. Naraka, who tanked a Rasengan from Konohamaru, is a White Mage (he heals/revives), and 2. The K11 literally have like one or two Jutsu users...so Preta isn't needed.

You've already soloed this thread too many times. U_U

 

[senjusana]

Okay.

Maybe.

 

[GeeNee]

so you compare k11 at their best against some people that "didn't appear" BUT they are part of the Akatsuki - -" and you also said Sasori is useless because he let himself killed by fodder Sakura and Granny Chiyo, same for Kakuzu and Hidan. it's pretty lame if you ask me :S comparing them at their best with prep against only a few of the akatsuki and then claim they surpassed them... no chance not even in 1000 years.

 

[Djordje]

without naruto and sasuke itachi solo and I am serious

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

Incorrect. Actually, Nagato could use the Path abilities faster and at a significantly higher level than when split.


As for each path individually, even alone they were a threat.

Human: already seen having evaded/moved by Ino, Ibiki, and Anbu to take out Shizune.

Animal: summoned various creatures thst the 3 giant toads alone struggled with. Took Naruto plus a giant Toad to defeat.

Asura: Defeated while attacking Tsunade not Naruto (allowing Naruto to just jump on it). Also I believe defeated keeping Tendo save by, yet again, dropping in late comers to a fight. Had extra limbs, a seeming laser, missiles, and knives for days.

Tendo: Solo'd Konoha. Solo'd the three great frogs. Solo'd SM Naruto after killing Pa.SM Naruto fest wise > any K11 member except MAYBE Sakura. And that's honestly only because of Sakura's healing. Then again, Rasenshuriken defeats her chakra network.

Only Naraka and Preta have an overall low combat score here, and that's because 1. Naraka, who tanked a Rasengan from Konohamaru, is a White Mage (he heals/revives), and 2. The K11 literally have like one or two Jutsu users...so Preta isn't needed.

They are only effective apart when destroying/invading konoha. The six paths need to be in close proximity to beat K11 but I already said I'm talking about early shippuden Akatsuki . No Obito no pain

 

[Dannie]

Who out of the K11 have actually grown besides team 7?

Team 10 have grown but not stronger than the Akatsuki.

Team Kurenai is shit.

Sai is shit.

This thread is also shit.

Don't mock the Akatsuki by placing them on the same level as that fodder village.