Kishimoto Sold Out

[Scumbag]

And naturally it must end in violence, everything has to end in violence...

Kishi's direction and themes with his manga have been all over the place. It's hard to tell how this will end. All I'll say is that it's very difficult to get behind Sasuke's redemption given all the things he's done and all the chances he's had. I think it sets a bad precedent that Sasuke could just waltz back into Konoha like nothing happened. He's killed innocent people and committed many other atrocities. This is bigger than Naruto or Sasuke or even their heritage, Naruto acknowledged this in the last chapter. Naruto cant let Sasuke get away this time. He's a threat to the entire shinobi world and the burden will be on Naruto to take him out. In fact I think it will finally show some resolve from Naruto that he was able to put his feelings for Sasuke aside and see him for the liability he is and has almost always been. It's kind of sad (I say kind of because I don't really like Sasuke) but his death would be very appropriate in my opinion.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

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I said the last part, the first part is true naruto (the original series) was about naruto wanting to be the hokage

 

[SageOfTheTenPaths]

2 years ago

 

[Darth Uchiha]

And naturally it must end in violence, everything has to end in violence...

Kishi's direction and themes with his manga have been all over the place. It's hard to tell how this will end. All I'll say is that it's very difficult to get behind Sasuke's redemption given all the things he's done and all the chances he's had. I think it sets a bad precedent that Sasuke could just waltz back into Konoha like nothing happened. He's killed innocent people and committed many other atrocities. This is bigger than Naruto or Sasuke or even their heritage, Naruto acknowledged this in the last chapter. Naruto cant let Sasuke get away this time. He's a threat to the entire shinobi world and the burden will be on Naruto to take him out. In fact I think it will finally show some resolve from Naruto that he was able to put his feelings for Sasuke aside and see him for the liability he is and has almost always been. It's kind of sad (I say kind of because I don't really like Sasuke) but his death would be very appropriate in my opinion.

The only good theme I can think of is that some people are beyond saving. After that, however (I must say this) screw Sasuke and his fans.

 

[PyRoxGoD]

Kishi's direction and themes with his manga have been all over the place. It's hard to tell how this will end. All I'll say is that it's very difficult to get behind Sasuke's redemption given all the things he's done and all the chances he's had. I think it sets a bad precedent that Sasuke could just waltz back into Konoha like nothing happened. He's killed innocent people and committed many other atrocities. This is bigger than Naruto or Sasuke or even their heritage, Naruto acknowledged this in the last chapter. Naruto cant let Sasuke get away this time. He's a threat to the entire shinobi world and the burden will be on Naruto to take him out. In fact I think it will finally show some resolve from Naruto that he was able to put his feelings for Sasuke aside and see him for the liability he is and has almost always been. It's kind of sad (I say kind of because I don't really like Sasuke) but his death would be very appropriate in my opinion.

Obito says hi. Bout I done way worse than sasuke

 

[DoubleKamui]

Cool story mate.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

I said the last part, the first part is true naruto (the original series) was about naruto wanting to be the hokage

Your right, but you have to admit. Trying to retrieve Sasuke made Sasuke more important. Him being with Naruto was not taking him anywhere.

 

[Crossroads]

Except he clearly hasn't got a clue as to what is needed.

You don't even know what Sasuke is planning aside from ridding the world from 5 men, and keeping 9 entities of a corrupt God on a leash.

What do you think he's doing it for? Do you think Sasuke is bored? You clearly don't understand his character, which is hilarious because Sasuke isn't even that complex.​

Doesn't change the fact that his methods are wrong. You have to admit Kishimoto did do a great job making him look evil with those faces of his. Also, his methods are very similar to Madara's, Obito's and Danzo's and he calls Danzo scum.

Wrong by.. who's standards? This is a fictional world where killing has always been prominent. It would be wrong by Naruto's standards, who would trust the world to not harm his beloved Biju friends after he passes on to the next life. Now, tell me what happens when someone who gains power through, say, a bloodline limit, is corrupt and tries to capture all of the Biju? Now tell me what happens if said person succeeds and no one can stop him? You'll have another situation similar to the IT crisis, which will more than likely lead to the extinction of everything chakra based.

Sasuke's method isn't holding hands and singing kumbaya, and it will certainly result in a few deaths.. but people don't even know where he's headed. They assume he'll take the role of a dictator, when all Sasuke wants to do is remove who's been causing the problem. Is his plan perfect? Hell no, people like Tsunade didn't even do anything.. but Sasuke could kill 5,000 more innocents and still save more lives in the end than Naruto.

Why? Because Naruto's plan will ultimately result in another IT crisis, and if no one can stop the villain... bye-bye human race. Now, is the enslavement of 9 Biju and 5 deaths worth the continuation of mankind?

Jesus kids, think.

(Note: this isn't directly pointed at you, Pumpkin Ninja.)​

 

[Darth Uchiha]

Obito says hi. Bout I done way worse than sasuke

Except Sasuke does it in the name of despotism and is always forgiven no matter what he does. With. Obito, I don't think he sold out, because, no matter how many fans whined, he stood strong and chose to tell the story his way, this time he finally caved under their crap.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

You don't even know what Sasuke is planning aside from ridding the world from 5 men, and keeping 9 entities of a corrupt God on a leash.

What do you think he's doing it for? Do you think Sasuke is bored? You clearly don't understand his character, which is hilarious because Sasuke isn't even that complex.​

Wrong by.. who's standards? This is a fictional world where killing has always been prominent. It would be wrong by Naruto's standards, who would trust the world to not harm his beloved Biju friends after he passes on to the next life. Now, tell me what happens when someone who gains power through, say, a bloodline limit, is corrupt and tries to capture all of the Biju? Now tell me what happens if said person succeeds and no one can stop him? You'll have another situation similar to the IT crisis, which will more than likely lead to the extinction of everything chakra based.

Sasuke's method isn't holding hands and singing kumbaya, and it will certainly result in a few deaths.. but people don't even know where he's headed. They assume he'll take the role of a dictator, when all Sasuke wants to do is remove who's been causing the problem. Is his plan perfect? Hell no, people like Tsunade didn't even do anything.. but Sasuke could kill 5,000 more innocents and still save more lives in the end than Naruto.

Why? Because Naruto's plan will ultimately result in another IT crisis, and if no one can stop the villain... bye-bye human race. Now, is the enslavement of 9 Biju and 5 deaths worth the continuation of mankind?

Jesus kids, think.

(Note: this isn't directly pointed at you, Pumpkin Ninja.)​

Yeah, because the ninja world didn't end up in this f*cked up situation due to violence, it was because everyone tried to live in peace and harmony.

 

[Scumbag]

Obito says hi. Bout I done way worse than sasuke

Obito was never delusional enough to believe he could go back to Konoha and become Hokage like nothing happened. In fact he was very emotional towards the end because he knew he ****ed up and had to pay for it. I think Sasuke knows he can't have your typical happy ending as well. He's going to carry out whatever plans he has the same way as Obito & Madara tried and he'll probably die trying. I think he might want to die to be honest. Like he knows the world will be better off without the Uchiha.

 

[Crossroads]

Yeah, because the ninja world didn't end up in this f*cked up situation due to violence, it was because everyone tried to live in peace and harmony.

The ninja world has always had the Jubi/Biju in the picture. Remove them from the equation, and things become less complicated. The Biju have feelings and emotion, yes. But it's also true that more people view them to be weapons of mass destruction before anything else, (because, well.. they are), and what do people do with weapons of mass destruction? They destroy, threaten, and control.

If Sasuke somehow managed to seal them away permanently, it would be step forward.​

 

[PyRoxGoD]

Except Sasuke does it in the name of despotism and is always forgiven no matter what he does. With. Obito, I don't think he sold out, because, no matter how many fans whined, he stood strong and chose to tell the story his way, this time he finally caved under their crap.

So a dictator is worse than summoning the worst thing none to the ninja world called a ten tails? Lol ok

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Your right, but you have to admit. Trying to retrieve Sasuke made Sasuke more important. Him being with Naruto was not taking him anywhere.

Nah man I was just fine when kishi used to make comptaion between characters not just naruto and sasuke as for the story sasuke story wasn't interesting to me as akatsuki story was so I wouldn't really mind of his story didn't existed

 

[Darth Uchiha]

The ninja world has always had the Jubi/Biju in the picture. Remove them from the equation, and things become less complicated. The Biju have feelings and emotion, yes. But it's also true that more people view them to be weapons of mass destruction before anything else, (because, well.. they are), and what do people do with weapons of mass destruction? They destroy, threaten, and control.

If Sasuke somehow managed to seal them away permanently, it would be step forward.​

Except they aren't weapons of mass destruction, and the practice of using them as such began with Madara, and was perpetuated by the previous Kage...

 

[Darth Uchiha]

So a dictator is worse than summoning the worst thing none to the ninja world called a ten tails? Lol ok

Except the plan wasn't to have Ten Tails kill everyone, the plan was to give everyone paradise.

 

[Crossroads]

Except they aren't weapons of mass destruction, and the practice of using them as such began with Madara, and was perpetuated by the previous Kage...

And you're officially a biased lost cause who holds no merit for anything he says. I couldn't tell if you were sincerely ignorant or just wanted to bash Sasuke for the hell of it.. seems I got my answer.

This will be our last conversation, good day.​

 

[GhostProject]

I thought this was a very good moment in the manga.

It would have broke Sasuke's character imo had he not tried for something here.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

And you're officially a biased lost cause who holds no merit for anything he says. I couldn't tell if you were sincerely ignorant or just wanted to bash Sasuke for the hell of it.. seems I got my answer.

This will be our last conversation, good day.​

So glad you couldn't even make an intelligent reply. IIRC, they were created by the Sage of Six Paths, who never intended them to be weapons, and saw them almost as his children, i.e they weren't weapons.

 

[PyRoxGoD]

Except the plan wasn't to have Ten Tails kill everyone, the plan was to give everyone paradise.

But that thing is a result of allied hw destroyed which are deaths many random places destroyed me hi dying a bunch of differs dying so I don't understand paradise with that shit happening it works but everyone turning to mindless white zeta us so extinguishing all life under IT at least sasuke ppl live tho