KinGin Bro's VS Itachi Uchiha

who would win in all out battle.

  • KinGin bro's

    Votes: 12 16.7%
  • Itachi Uchiha

    Votes: 60 83.3%

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dude for the last time, dairu did not out smart them! he simply got lucky at the last second his word switched, and that is a fact! so i would like it if all of you stop saying they got out smarted! also, stop comparing itachi to other ppl like oru and other ninjas! itachi and oru is nothing alike, PERIOD! itachi cant do what oru can do and vise versa! and yamato, kakashi, danzou have nothing to do with PURE CHAKRA wich is what they have! so that comparison is a fail aswell. and that staement sying the akatsuki can goe one on one with jinjurikis is also a fail, they were in groups of two (expect kisame, he didnt need help). and none of them had control like KB and naruto and that is a fact unless u can prove me wrong! kb can defeat any member except probaly pain, and kisame (and he was playing most the time with kisame and had to protect that racoon and monk dude).

and stop saying itachi can face a 6 tails just because naruto 4 tails and oru fought! please i beg you stop doing the whole "A>B B>C A>C" because that is not true in the naruto universe! and again no one member besides kisame and pain can go one on one and win! deidara dont caont because it was a set up and gaara had to protect the village the same time (if a neutral site, gaara would rape him). dude fact is, ur making stuff up to make ur self think itachi would win by saying since oru diid so so, itachi would because hes better. and i know ur better then that bruh.

also, i agree itachi is better then most uchias, but that still doesnt deny the fact that they have experience against an uchia and know they are 80% about genjutsu. itachi is smart but every ninja doesnt have the same intel on ninjas like oru and tobi basicly knows everything. being smarter doesnt mean you know everything that less smarter person knows... its like if shikamaru fought sasori he would lose compared to chiyo. because chiyo has intel bout him, puppets, knows bout his poison etc, but shikku is smarter. you get it??..
Hahaha are you kidding me? Oh my before I begin here I want to say that I hope you don't take it seriously on what I say or not trying to start a fight here.

This is just getting pathetic and pathetic as we go on. First off luck or no luck Darui found the weakness and even KinGin bros said it themselves so it's one down and one to go face that fact. It's been shown and done in the manga so stop saying luck in this and that.

Now Itachi and Oro it's funny how Oro at a weakend state danced with the four tails and Itachi not once but twice defeat Oro with EASE!! and you state he can't stand against the kyuubi? :flaw: The reason why I bring Oro is because he has killed the Kazekage and pretty much was responsible for the thrids death and got OWNED TWICE by Itachi (It's safe to say Oro did NOT stand a chance against Itachi and it's been proven not once but twice in the manga).

Now you on on with these replica of a kyuubi to take Itachi out. This is were people like you cross the damn line. I mean come on you have just heard of these guys (3 chapters) and we've seen Itachi and heard of him throughout the manga but you yet have to realize his strength and than you call yourself a fan? This is not made up stuff it's proven don't believe it go read the manga again.

This last paragraph is just pathetic. You say Itachi has no intel on them and than where the frig did they get intel on Itachi? I know, THEY DON'T. So don't put the battle to their advantage right away.

Also the KinGin where around in Danzou young age so he must've had intel on them in his ANBU Root.

Now before you start going off and saying I made these thing stuff up first off some of this stuff has been proven in the Manga don't make me pull those chapters out will be my wasted time. Than the rest is my personally opinion on this battle so don't go around saying I make things up where your basing all your facts on only 3 chapters of these guys
 
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Hahaha are you kidding me? Oh my before I begin here I want to say that I hope you don't take it seriously on what I say or not trying to start a fight here.

This is just getting pathetic and pathetic as we go on. First off luck or no luck Darui found the weakness and even KinGin bros said it themselves so it's one down and one to go face that fact. It's been shown and done in the manga so stop saying luck in this and that.

Now Itachi and Oro it's funny how Oro at a weakend state danced with the four tails and Itachi not once but twice defeat Oro with EASE!! and you state he can't stand against the kyuubi? :flaw: The reason why I bring Oro is because he has killed the Kazekage and pretty much was responsible for the thrids death and got OWNED TWICE by Itachi (It's safe to say Oro did NOT stand a chance against Itachi and it's been proven not once but twice in the manga).

Now you on on with these replica of a kyuubi to take Itachi out. This is were people like you cross the damn line. I mean come on you have just heard of these guys (3 chapters) and we've seen Itachi and heard of him throughout the manga but you yet have to realize his strength and than you call yourself a fan? This is not made up stuff it's proven don't believe it go read the manga again.

This last paragraph is just pathetic. You say Itachi has no intel on them and than where the frig did they get intel on Itachi? I know, THEY DON'T. So don't put the battle to their advantage right away.

Also the KinGin where around in Danzou young age so he must've had intel on them in his ANBU Root.

Now before you start going off and saying I made these thing stuff up first off some of this stuff has been proven in the Manga don't make me pull those chapters out will be my wasted time. Than the rest is my personally opinion on this battle so don't go around saying I make things up where your basing all your facts on only 3 chapters of these guys
lol im not saying itachi is weak or anything, i know what hes capible of more then most ppl. its just ppl like u think he would defeate anybody and knows everything about every ninja that ever lived.lmao, then yall do the whole "oru beat" so "itachi will beat aswell". that is just a bad argument, thats like me saying, naruto beat pain, but sasuke beat naruto, so does that mean pain cannot beat sasuke? or sasuke beat KB, but raikage beat sasuke, does that mean raikage can beat kb?????????????????? u get it now???????????? so i beg u stop bringing up the oru thing, because that is pathetic.. (no offense)...
 

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lol im not saying itachi is weak or anything, i know what hes capible of more then most ppl. its just ppl like u think he would defeate anybody and knows everything about every ninja that ever lived.lmao, then yall do the whole "oru beat" so "itachi will beat aswell". that is just a bad argument, thats like me saying, naruto beat pain, but sasuke beat naruto, so does that mean pain cannot beat sasuke? or sasuke beat KB, but raikage beat sasuke, does that mean raikage can beat kb?????????????????? u get it now???????????? so i beg u stop bringing up the oru thing, because that is pathetic.. (no offense)...
They may have knowledge about sharingan (let me correct that actually: They DEFINATELY have intel on sharingan) but they ain't got 'nothing on Mangekyou Sharingan. So when facing ITachi, when this guy notice they don't want to stare at his eyes.... he's gonna what..... drop dead? Cause they didn't got trapped in genjutsu?

Okay Itachi relied on it a lot but that was NOT his only way to fight... he was awesome at throwing knives and taijutsu... also extremely smart dude I'm sure he'll figure them out easily.
Now... How do you expect those bros to avoid Amateresu? They definately DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT!!! when the first one dies, the second one goes kyubi mode.... just one little reminder: MS can control kyubi... regular sharingan can suppress kyubi chakra (Sasuke vs Naruto he does it when naruto goes mad).... even if that fails... I don't know what kyubi mode can really do against Susano'o...
 

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Wow was there a fight or something o_O?

Anyway I think the bros would win unless itachi uses Susanoo right away and hits them with his sword. Unless you mean ones that were not summoned with edo tensi then I think itachi once he figures a battle plan.
 

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and i think if this was Hidan vs KinGin thats how the fight would go, just because he doesn't know what the rope does doesn't mean he'll let them hit him in the first place. if they go 6tails mode maybe they'd win but without it, darui was fast enough to seal one away since they can't seem to stop saying eachothers names they lose their own word game easily.
idk the point of bringing up Hidan...

Itachi is outnumbered.. all it takes is one bro to distract him and the other to blindside him with the rope.. Itachi is quick and smart but he is hittable.. both Kakashi and Naruto have landed hits on Itachi. yes Itachi was at 30% and it wasnt even his real body but still Itachi was mentally fighting and was physically hit.. Itachi is not impervious to physical attacks.. and what makes it worse for him is that hes outnumbered.. dont you understand that that is the number 1 best way to fight an Uchiha? to outnumber him..

Itachi will not last long agaisnt a 6 tails.. god forbid he has to face both bros in 6 tails...

correction... Darui was Lucky enough to seal one away.. Itachi will not know their secret.. the only one to ever fully figure out their secrets to their fighting was the whoever killed them and Darui and Darui would have never figured it out without Samui and Atsui help.. Itachi will have no comrade to help him figure out the KinGin's stragedy...

even if Itachi knew about KinGin he would not know about their 9tails chakra.. even Tsunade didnt know and she has more years on Itachi.. she is closer to when the KinGin were alive.. also Itachi will not know about how their weapons work because not even Darui and Atsui knew.. Samui knew and the only reason is because she researched.. and even so she did not fully know everything.. she did not know that being silent still gets you sealed..

all it takes is one touch from Itachi.. Itachi will eventually be hit....

I tend to think that his 6 tails isn't really as strong as a 6 tails... wouldn't make sense to steal 6 tails from a nine tail fox and the fox to still keep that chakra while kinkaku has it. That's just bad maths.
what..? dont forget that the KinGin absorbed more chakra from 9tails than physically possible.. it does make sense that they would steal "6tails amount" of chakra from kyuubi.. also it makes no sense that 6tails isnt really as strong as 6tails.. stop denying KinGin's power... this matter factt increases their chance at winning agaisnt Itachi.. even Pain had trouble fighting 6tails, Sasuke nearly died twice, not to mention Jugo, Suigetsu and Karin were badly injured when Bee transformed in his cloak mode... Itachi doesnt stand a chance if both bros transform..

None taken.

Well first off In that statement NarutoVSGoku was stating Itachi would get hit with the rope easily. And I was just trying to state that it wouldn't be that easy for them to do that, if the battles were that easy than his genjutsu should've beaten anyone. I apologize NarutoVSGoku for not being too pacific on my statement.


i never said Itachi would get hit easily.. i will say though that Itachi has a chance of being hit.. yes he's fast and has Sasuno but he isnt impervious to attacks.. and if hit by the rope he will indefinently be sealed.. he does not know about the curse words and being silent gets him sealed...


I never stated Uchiha were unbeatable or unstoppable. The reason why I say things about Itachi is because I'm disgusted how people down grade him or take him as a 10 year old genin. (Nothing Personal to anyone). Well I doubt they encountered Uchiha's only because I never heard of them ever doing so and you cannot also state that they encounter Uchiha's since it has yet been said if they have or not so at this point you can say we both made stuff up because no one knows if they have battle them or if they haven't.
lol you know what, im disgusted how people upgrade Itachi.. i'll admit he's one of the strongest ninjas but the way people make him out to be a god is ridiculous..

anyways be reasonable.. Uchihas were famously strong.. they were ninjas.. during the KinGin times there were constant wars and battles between villages.. the KinGin most likely encountered at least one Uchiha during battles agaisnt the Leaf.. even Chiyo has fought an Uchiha in her days...


Moving to their tailed beast mode. Now we are yet to find out what they are truly capable of in that mode or what it does to them. I mean Naruto in six tails looks a lot different than them (And a lot better). Most likely they'd use that mode when one is dead as we seen right now, now one on one with an MS user? (Sasuke, pretty much took out a KB and 8 tails which was full controlled by KB alone and you think Itachi couldn't take on people with the kyuubi chakra? The real kyuubi is in Naruto and the other half is sealed away so these guys may not be able to do what Naruto can do in Kyuubi mode)
well they are in six tails ... it doesnt take a genuis to know that six tails kyuubi mode is very very very strong.. Oro barely handled 4tails Naruto, Jiraiya almost died from 4tails Naruto, Pain could barely fight 6tails Naruto.. what on earth makes you think Itachi could fight TWO 6tails transform ninjas?!

the 8tails powers arent the same as the 9tails but even Sasuke and the whole Taka crew all nearly died (Sasuke almost died a couple of times alone) when Bee transform.. and Amaterasu was a fail because it burned a FAKE/COPY/CLONE..

well see the real Kyuubi isnt inside KinGin so Itachi cant deativate their transformation.. just like how Yamato was always able to deactivate Naruto's but he couldnt deactivate Sora's because Sora didnt actually have 9tails in him..

the KinGin absorbed chakra from Kyuubi when Kyuubi had ALL of his chakra.. its not till years later that Minato sealed half of Kyuubis chakra...


All I'm saying is I hate when people make Itachi look like a weak ninja. Their are tons of ways to defeat anyone but what is required the most is a brain which Itachi has and people yet are to discover that. (Hidan was never smart and got defeated by another genuis Shikamaru).
Shikamaru was only able to defeat Hidan in the 2nd round, after he learned Hidan's abilities.. mind you Hidan's abilities were secret to his enemies and its because of that that he was able to kill Asuma.. imagine how different the 1st fight would have been if Asuma and Shikumaru knew all of Hidans secrets?? plus Hidan talked too much and gave alot of hints...

the KinGin would not give away their secrets like Hidan.. Itachi would not be able to find out their secrets.. only reason Darui was was because he had help from Samui and Atsui.. even Samui didnt know everything about KinGin.. yes Itachi is smart but he'd be sealed before he knew what happened...

btw Itachi does not look like a weak ninja lol


Moving to the weapons Itachi has held two powerful weapons himself and is smart enough to eventually know about this weapon and what they are capable of. The only concern would be on how to battle those weapon or avoid them now Itachi is smart and could find out eventually. I mean KinGin bro are dead so obviously means someone or group had killed them so they are not invincible either and people have discovered their weakness and the weapons.
well how on earth is Itachi gunna possibly figure out their weapons? like i said Darui only figured it out because he had help.. 1st off Samui told him and Samui only knew because she researched on them. 2nd even despite that Samui did not know a very crucial thing and thats being silent also gets you sealed.. 3rd the KinGin were suprised that Samui even knew that much about them, most likely nobody in their time knew their secrets. 3rd Darui had figured everything through observations of Atsui and Samui being sealed. and the only person to ever fully know everything besides Darui was whoever killed KinGin.. now how is Itachi going to figure all of their secrets if he doesnt even have help like Darui did? he does and will not know even the basic knowledge Samui knew because Samui researched on them from the database or a book that the Cloud Village had.. Itachi will have no clue on them...


If I haven't covered anything here I apologize feel free to correct me on anything and I will get back to you on it
I apologize NarutoVSGoku, was in a hurry.

If we go back to when Itachi made his first appearance in Konoho, he encountered Kakashi, Asuma and Kurenai. They couldn't fight him eye to eye which is why they looked down and Kakashi though he could but boom he was caught in a genjutsu and could've died but Itachi didn't want to kill him and in the real world was not even a second in the genjutsu. That can easily happen to the KinGin bros.


Kakashi's strong will allowed him to survive the genjutsu.. and yes i'll admit it could happen but it could only happen to one of them at a time.. the KinGin will not fall for genjutsu so easily.. Itachi using MS will only increase the KinGin cahnces of winning... hes outnumbered.. he takes one of the bros out and he still has another high powered one to take care of afterwards...

Moving on to tailed beast if Sasuke, pretty much took out a KB and 8 tails which was fully controlled by KB (A complete bijuu) and you think Itachi couldn't take on people with the kyuubi chakra? The real kyuubi is in Naruto and the other half is sealed away so these guys may not be able to do what Naruto can do in Kyuubi mode.
the KinGin absorbed chakra from the FULL Kyuubi.. not the HALF Ktuubi in Naruto.. also Sasuke did not take down Bee.. Bee not even in full transformation almost killed the whole Taka.. both Oro and Jiraiya were strained from fighting 4tails Naruto and 6tails was a strain to Pain.. Itachi will be murdered savagely trying to fight 2 6tails transformed KinGin..


Akatsuki was built to capture these tailed beast and you think someone at Itachi's level couldn't take out people who aren't complete Jinjurikins (Or kyuubi host)?

If I haven't covered anything here I apologize feel free to correct me on anything and I will get back to you on it

Also two both of you lets not forget Oro killed Kazekage and pretty much responsible for the 3rd Hokages death was defeated by Itachi in a blink of an eye and eventually sealed away (He maybe have been weak but was still sealed away, Also he's done his research on Sharingan with Danzou so knew a lot about them so no excuses here, Oro was also a genius and was able to go toe to toe with Naruto in 4 tails in his weak state, and yet you guys still argue about Itachi and what he is capable of). Also Deidara was beaten quick time and was even prepared to fight Itachi again he couldn't take out Sasuke who just has a regular Sharingan you can say he's never fought a Sharingan but still.
yes Itachi can definently stand agaisnt jinchurikis.. you are right that akatsuki can take them on. but it has always been 2 akatsuki member agaisnt 1 jinchuriki.. also even the best akatsuki members have been bested by the best jinchurikis.. Bee almost killed Taka, Naruto defeated Kakuza and all 6 Paths of Pain.. now in the fight KinGin vs Itachi Itachi is outnumbered by 2 strong ninjas that both contain tailed beast powers.. not only that but they displayed that they can control the powers effortlessly.. Naruto could barley control himself at 3 tails, Kinkaku is still conscious even at 6tails... and Bee who could still be conscious even in full form showed how powerful tailed beast powers are when in full control..

yes like you said Deidara has no experience fighting sharingan.. you make a great arguement with Oro but like you mentioned Oro was barely able to stand agasint 4tails power.. listen Itachi beat Oro 1on1.. Itachi beat Deidara 1on1.. but KinGin vs Itachi isnt 1on1.. its 2on1.. and the whole "Itachi beat Oro and Deidara" arguement is lame..

Itachi beat Oro BEFORE Oro killed Kaze and Ho kages so for all you know Oro was alot weaker when he faced Itachi compared to when he killed Kaze and Ho kages....


They may have knowledge about sharingan (let me correct that actually: They DEFINATELY have intel on sharingan) but they ain't got 'nothing on Mangekyou Sharingan. So when facing ITachi, when this guy notice they don't want to stare at his eyes.... he's gonna what..... drop dead? Cause they didn't got trapped in genjutsu?

Okay Itachi relied on it a lot but that was NOT his only way to fight... he was awesome at throwing knives and taijutsu... also extremely smart dude I'm sure he'll figure them out easily.
Now... How do you expect those bros to avoid Amateresu? They definately DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT!!! when the first one dies, the second one goes kyubi mode.... just one little reminder: MS can control kyubi... regular sharingan can suppress kyubi chakra (Sasuke vs Naruto he does it when naruto goes mad).... even if that fails... I don't know what kyubi mode can really do against Susano'o...
the Uchiha were considered to be one of the strongest clans ever.. they are infamous.. so everybody would know about sharingan.. Madara who was considered the strongest Uchiha had the MS.. he is infamous for alot of things but his rep also made people know about MS..

KinGin would most likely know about MS.. only thing they may never have a clue on is Itachi's sealing sword (wateva its called)..

now even if they dont know about MS the only thing that would do damage is Tsukiyomi. though the brothers most likely having have fought at least one Uchiha in their days would know to avoid eye contact to prevent genjutsu.. also Amaterasu is soooooo overrated.. you talk about it like the bros are going to be hit by it.. tell me and list how many times has Amaterasu ever killed anybody? you can think about any of the times its been used and you'll realize the best thing Amaterasu has ever done is allow Itachi to escape Jiraiya... Sasuno is not withstanding the strength of tailed beast power... are you serious? Itachi is outnumbered.. sure he has his sheild that blocks any attack but one bro distracts and the other hits him from the blindside....
 

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what..? dont forget that the KinGin absorbed more chakra from 9tails than physically possible.. it does make sense that they would steal "6tails amount" of chakra from kyuubi.. also it makes no sense that 6tails isnt really as strong as 6tails.. stop denying KinGin's power... this matter factt increases their chance at winning agaisnt Itachi.. even Pain had trouble fighting 6tails, Sasuke nearly died twice, not to mention Jugo, Suigetsu and Karin were badly injured when Bee transformed in his cloak mode... Itachi doesnt stand a chance if both bros transform..
I never pictured you for such an itachi hater/kingin lover. Ok then. Let's use maths, you know the thing that is 100% accurate all the time. So let's say that the ninetails has 1000 chakra points. If the bros steal enough for 6tails, which I am presuming is more than half of its chakra, then the chakra would have less than 500 and the bros would have more than 500, which means that the bros are actually stronger than the ninetail fox. Good one. Why didn't they kill it then? Or are you suggesting that the bros took over 500 points of chakra from the ninetails and the ninetails still has 1000 points ? Is that even maths is a cheap cheat ? And if both brothers have 6 tails then 6 tails + 6 tails = the power of 12 tails right ? The fox would have about the power of 1tail left after the bros took that much. YES, TOOK. They did not borrow or anything else, they took that chakra from the ninetails forever. Stop overestimating the bros and think. At least stop being an Itachi hater.
 

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I never pictured you for such an itachi hater/kingin lover. Ok then. Let's use maths, you know the thing that is 100% accurate all the time. So let's say that the ninetails has 1000 chakra points. If the bros steal enough for 6tails, which I am presuming is more than half of its chakra, then the chakra would have less than 500 and the bros would have more than 500, which means that the bros are actually stronger than the ninetail fox. Good one. Why didn't they kill it then? Or are you suggesting that the bros took over 500 points of chakra from the ninetails and the ninetails still has 1000 points ? Is that even maths is a cheap cheat ? And if both brothers have 6 tails then 6 tails + 6 tails = the power of 12 tails right ? The fox would have about the power of 1tail left after the bros took that much. YES, TOOK. They did not borrow or anything else, they took that chakra from the ninetails forever. Stop overestimating the bros and think. At least stop being an Itachi hater.
and i never pictured you resorting to bashing and flamming..

im not going to pretend to know about how the whole 9tails and KinGin chakra thing works but i will say this.. your whole "equation" on it all is absolutely WRONG!!!.. the KinGin absorbed chakra from the 9tails and added it to themselves and evidently can use its powers.. but you imply that because the bros absorbed chakra from 9tails that the 9tails lost the charka absorbed forever and thus conclude that the KinGin are stronger than 9tails.... WRONG... chakra replenishis.. Bee had lost an extreme amount of chakra from fighting Kisame but did Bee permantly lose all that chakra? no... he gets it back after resting ... There was many times Sasuke had to absorbed Karin and even Jugo's chakra to replenish his own but did Karin and Jugo lose their chakra forever? noo... all ninjas (besides Guy and Lee) use chakra in battles and using jutsus but does that mean they lose all the chakra forever? NOOO..!!!

that was a poor arguement and im kinda suprised.. im not a KinGin lover or Itachi hater but im at least reasonable to see that Itachi loses agasint KinGin.. if you werent soo biased maybe you could admit it too... fact is KinGin absobred more charka from 9tails than humanly possible. fact is both bros can transform to at least 6 tails cloak form.. these things increase the chance of them winning and you know that so what do you do? try to discredit their 9tails powers with equations that you made up out of the blue...
 

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and i never pictured you resorting to bashing and flamming..

im not going to pretend to know about how the whole 9tails and KinGin chakra thing works but i will say this.. your whole "equation" on it all is absolutely WRONG!!!.. the KinGin absorbed chakra from the 9tails and added it to themselves and evidently can use its powers.. but you imply that because the bros absorbed chakra from 9tails that the 9tails lost the charka absorbed forever and thus conclude that the KinGin are stronger than 9tails.... WRONG... chakra replenishis.. Bee had lost an extreme amount of chakra from fighting Kisame but did Bee permantly lose all that chakra? no... he gets it back after resting ... There was many times Sasuke had to absorbed Karin and even Jugo's chakra to replenish his own but did Karin and Jugo lose their chakra forever? noo... all ninjas (besides Guy and Lee) use chakra in battles and using jutsus but does that mean they lose all the chakra forever? NOOO..!!!

that was a poor arguement and im kinda suprised.. im not a KinGin lover or Itachi hater but im at least reasonable to see that Itachi loses agasint KinGin.. if you werent soo biased maybe you could admit it too... fact is KinGin absobred more charka from 9tails than humanly possible. fact is both bros can transform to at least 6 tails cloak form.. these things increase the chance of them winning and you know that so what do you do? try to discredit their 9tails powers with equations that you made up out of the blue...
Oh you replied already. So you're saying that the chakra replenishes if you steal it? Really? So you're saying that if someone steals 99% of kyuubi's chakra, there would be 2 kyuubis ? No. Using chakra is one thing, IT REPLENISHES THEN. Absorbing chakra is another thing. Even samehada and it's chakra eating thing. It's not permanently TAKING that chakra. It DRAINS it. That's the word. If you drain something, it replenishes. And also if you drain it, once you lost it once, you lose if forever. What the bros did was STEAL it. Which means they forever took that chakra and they will always be able to use it while the fox cannot. I'm not sure you understand this concept fully because you seem to think that I bash you
 

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@NarutoVsGoku you need to calm down already and analyse the situation without your Itachi hating attitude... in all you wall of text I did not see one valide point !!! Its crazy!!!

First off, you can kill Itachi if you are two against one cause you outnumbered it.... works for the average Joe Uchiha with average 3 tamoe sharingan... Not for Itachi though... should I remind you that him and Tobi took down the whole Uchiha clan ? (2 outnumbers the clan?)
Also when Naruto and Kakashi lands attacks on Itachi its because Itachi did not wanted to kill them for one. For two, HOW DO YOU THINK ITACHI WOULD FALL FOR THAT 2 AGAINST ONE anti genjutsu trick when Chiyo just said OUT LOUD how it was countered in from of him?! number three Tsukoyomi in the hands of Itachi is instant. (And don't you dare tell me they can evade it like KB did against Sasuke, as they possess the beasts chakra, not the actual beast along with the chakra!)

When you say Itachi did not know about the 9tails chakra, I got you okay why not? You think when he sees that thing pop he is not gonna recognize the chakra signature? Then suppress it with a regular sharingan like Sasuke did? Even if that doesn't work Susano'o will withstand it, thanks to his power shield that is said to repell ALL attacks (a little exception with Chibuka Tensei which I am the first to support).

Also, you said in that wall of text that you agreed Itachi would not get hitted easily, but eventually would? mmmm well KinGin bros would not get hitted easily as well but eventually will be. Except of course that they don't know JACK about Mangekyou Sharingan... (explain to me, PLEASE, explain to me, how does someone who doesn't know Amaterasu dodges it?! The attack lands on eye sight and burns the target to death, and don't get back at me again with how many people died from it, Raikage was going to for starters, Itachi never wanted to kill good guys for seconds, Sasuke is just a freaking epic Uchiha failur for last.)

The KinGin bros had no way of knowing MS, Madara and Izuna back in the days used it to climb the ladders of Konoha, it was pretty much a cold war. Also how would THEY know about it, but Kakashi and Sasuke wouldn't (back in the beginning) ? Both sharingan users?
And regular sharingan suppresses Kyuubi's Chakra as it was stated somewhere doesn't need the beast to be there.
 
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I never pictured you for such an itachi hater/kingin lover. Ok then. Let's use maths, you know the thing that is 100% accurate all the time. So let's say that the ninetails has 1000 chakra points. If the bros steal enough for 6tails, which I am presuming is more than half of its chakra, then the chakra would have less than 500 and the bros would have more than 500, which means that the bros are actually stronger than the ninetail fox. Good one. Why didn't they kill it then? Or are you suggesting that the bros took over 500 points of chakra from the ninetails and the ninetails still has 1000 points ? Is that even maths is a cheap cheat ? And if both brothers have 6 tails then 6 tails + 6 tails = the power of 12 tails right ? The fox would have about the power of 1tail left after the bros took that much. YES, TOOK. They did not borrow or anything else, they took that chakra from the ninetails forever. Stop overestimating the bros and think. At least stop being an Itachi hater.
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@ Draegod and NarutoVSGoku

Boys I apologize if I didn't cover any of your opinions But I will try to do my best here and make it as short as possible.

First off I never say Itachi can't be touch or is invisible (defeated) I don't know if you were referring to me that I over power Itach, NarutoVSGoku. But you know in a Itachi VS ??? thread I remember I backed you up on saying Itachi would be defeated and you said something a long the lines, "finally an Itachi fan who agrees" and I told you I call it the way I see it. I've said that the 4th Hokage can beat him and eventually leaned towards Pein on also beating him. So don't go around saying things that I over power Itachi and state that he can't be defeated right now all I'm saying is KinGin can't defeat him.

I mean logically we don't know much about KinGin only 3 chapters worth and yet people are already deciding that Itachi would get defeated by them with ease as you guys are putting it. I find it funny when people mention Itachi winning they say His MS, Sasuano'o, Genjutsu, or Amaterasu and right now all you both can say is the rope (sealing thing) or their transformation would lead to Itachi defeat. Lets not forget Itachi's Susano'o is pretty much Invisiable as Zetsu stated and he has the sealing sword except for his you don't need a word one touch it's over. (Not stating it would be easy and they'd get caught just throwing something out their) basically you can say a sealing for a sealing lol corny but yeah. But it's true Itachi biggest concern would be the rope (sealing)

Now the transformation. I don't understand how you don't get that their transformation isn't a bijuu but a replica type of thing (Meaning they aren't as strong as the 6 tailed Naruto goes in and even they look different). Remember they don't have the kyuubi just it's chakra. I will post my own opinion or what I think about their transformation near the end of this discussion.

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You talk about not saying just cause Oro defeat this person and Itachi defeated Oro which means Itachi could also beat the people Oro has. Well of course he can, It shows Itachi has surpassed someone like Oro so why can't he? The full nine tails I doubt anyone can fight it one on one except we seen Madara, 1st Hokage and Minato face off with it. Itachi can stand toe to toe with the 4 or 6 tails not an easy task but can be done. Even in the manga that argument is valid. When people heard Sasuke was one who defeated Zabuza a lot of question arose on him and than when it was said he defeated Oro same thing, also the that one girl from Tusikage side wanted to see how strong this Sasuke was when they found out he defeated Deidara. So don't say things like this are pathetic and useless when people use that in the manga themselves knowing that person he's no ordinary ninja. And this is what I'm trying to prove that Itachi defeated Oro twice in a blink of an eye showing he ain't your ordinary ninja and would just like Oro be able to fight off a 4 tailed beast. In other words Oro took out Kazekage and Third Hokage and Itachi took Oro out so your saying Itachi couldn't take the Kazekage and Third out, if he wanted to kill them? Defeating Oro proves he can if he wanted to or it would just be stupid seeing that Oro lost to someone who's weaker than people he has fought in the past.

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When Kakashi was caught in Itachi genjutsu it wasn't his strong will that helped him survive he even said Itachi could've killed him if he wanted. Also in the genjutsu it wasn't even one second outside that genjutsu so you say Itachi getting caught with sealing tech. the question is what if Itachi caught one of them in that exact genjutsu? one down and he would have one to go right? Also you make it seem so easy that one will distract Itachi the other will blindside attack him, don't think it would be that easy for it to happen.

NaurtoVSGoku Also you mentioned not much villages knew about the KinGin like Tsunade for example who's been around for a long time, so that means KinGin's weren't famous at all and were ninjas just causing mayhem in their own village? It is said that they interfered in the treaty between cloud and leaf while the second Hokage and Raikage were their and still Konoho has nothing on them? from that all it seems is that they weren't as strong as you guys are going on about.

Ok enough of that now I want to discuss about their tailed beats mode or transformation. I think their tailed beats mode is much like Oro curse seal mark. Just like the curse seal somewhat gives them a different kinda chakra (the 2nd stage seal) and they transform thats what I think maybe that kyuubi chakra does to KinGins, We know they don't have the actually beast just it's chakra they transform into something big looking like kyuubi (their 6 tails looks alot different than Naruto's in Pein's battle) So they have kyuubi chakra, which allows them to transform to the kyuubi but it's nothing compared to the real kyuubi that Naruto has. Which still proves that yes they have their own strenght and kyuubi's but theirs limit like curse seal.

These are just my thoughts and opinions on this battle and their tailed beats mode, so don't respond back by saying I'm making things up as I said it's just a thought and opinion thats all.

PS: Agreed with Stampy. Also even if people did know about Madara and Izuna MS pretty sure their abilities were different so KinGin's wouldn't know anythings about Itachi's MS ability and that is Itachi's biggest advantage especially when they first encounter an MS user I think they may have to think before doing anything

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idk the point of bringing up Hidan...

Itachi is outnumbered.. all it takes is one bro to distract him and the other to blindside him with the rope.. Itachi is quick and smart but he is hittable.. both Kakashi and Naruto have landed hits on Itachi. yes Itachi was at 30% and it wasnt even his real body but still Itachi was mentally fighting and was physically hit.. Itachi is not impervious to physical attacks.. and what makes it worse for him is that hes outnumbered.. dont you understand that that is the number 1 best way to fight an Uchiha? to outnumber him..
because hidan is stupid, itachi isn't. you tried saying they'd easily seal itachi
KinGin fights Itachi. Itachi gets hit with rope..
Itachi does not know the secrets of their weapons. the only ones to ever fully know the secrets was Darui because of the help from Atsui and Samui (please read my last comment to Anub cuz i explained already) and the one who killed KinGin.. so anyways Itachi would be sealed with ease.. whether he says his taboo word or if he stays silent like Samui (which he would most likely do).. fight over
what did kakashi hit him with again? that uppercut from underground missed
his shadow clone was holding onto itachi so naruto could hit the clone.

Itachi will not last long agaisnt a 6 tails.. god forbid he has to face both bros in 6 tails...
i srsly doubt if they both go 6tails he won't use MS, either amaterasu which beat bee even used by for the first time by sasuke (doesn't matter bee escaped with a fake since he was in a full transformation and we have no proof KinGin can.) and they are alot bigger then naruto's version so easier target to hit and he can use it for long enough to burn them both. Or he'll use susanoo so unless you really think they hit harder then kirin did nothing they have will get thru yata mirror and they'll end up sealed, no proof susanoo attacks slow either it cut off the yamata's snake head before it could touch him when pulling it out and oro is the only one sealed by it and he didn't see it coming, mid monolog bam.



Kakashi's strong will allowed him to survive the genjutsu.. and yes i'll admit it could happen but it could only happen to one of them at a time.. the KinGin will not fall for genjutsu so easily.. Itachi using MS will only increase the KinGin cahnces of winning... hes outnumbered.. he takes one of the bros out and he still has another high powered one to take care of afterwards...
lol making stuff up there, kakashi said why didn't he just kill me no sign of resistence from kakashi. him using tsukiyomi would more likely confuse them like asuma and kurenai rather then, "He must have used genjutsu since my brother just collapsed screaming in pain nows my chance to strike!" (that might make him go 6tails form from seeing that happen?) tsukiyomi is over in a few seconds itachi can move again after its done, i doubt he will use it unless hes planing on killing them with it (possible, they don't have sharingan which was sasuke's only reason to break w/e version of tsukiyomi it was) or seperating them during it. most of the time he used tsukiyomi its to motivate sasuke or defeat someone without killing them.
 

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big problem with the itachi>oro so oro playing with naruto 4tails means itachi>tailed beast v2.
oro could play with naruto because hes pretty much immortal, if itachi was actually hit with half the stuff oro can survive he'd be cripplied or dead i mean naruto TORE HIM IN HALF, touching naruto's v2 arm burns (snake wraped around it disolved) and nailed oro harder then tsunade even hit him knocked him into the forest and knocked kabuto back and injured him with his chakra. itachi isn't immortal but he can stop the attacks or avoid them or let clones take the hits instead of himself.
 

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To everyone saying, Darui only cut off the arm; he could have cut the bro in half instead, or even just cut his legs off, but that would be pointless as the unkillable bro would whack him with the rope. Now Darui didn't account for getting hit anyways but you can see the logic. Plus if he can do it once, he can do it again, ESPECIALLY if that bro is missing an arm.

As for Itachi himself, he can point 2 fingers and put em under genjutsu, and in the ONE second it make take the bros to break out activate Susan'o and shank one with sword. Then the other one can't do shit. The rope can't even physically reach Itachi through Susan'o, no attack works, and no defense works. The end.
 

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big problem with the itachi>oro so oro playing with naruto 4tails means itachi>tailed beast v2.
oro could play with naruto because hes pretty much immortal, if itachi was actually hit with half the stuff oro can survive he'd be cripplied or dead i mean naruto TORE HIM IN HALF, touching naruto's v2 arm burns (snake wraped around it disolved) and nailed oro harder then tsunade even hit him knocked him into the forest and knocked kabuto back and injured him with his chakra. itachi isn't immortal but he can stop the attacks or avoid them or let clones take the hits instead of himself.
How is Itachi supposed to be hit in Susano?
 
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