KinGin Bro's VS Itachi Uchiha

[Professor Sarutobi]

How is Itachi supposed to be hit in Susano?

"if itachi was actually hit with half the stuff oro can survive he'd be cripplied or dead"

"itachi isn't immortal but he can stop the attacks"

i said if he was actually hit, and he can stop them, so he wouldn't be hit in susanoo.

 

[Draegod]

I never pictured you for such an itachi hater/kingin lover. Ok then. Let's use maths, you know the thing that is 100% accurate all the time. So let's say that the ninetails has 1000 chakra points. If the bros steal enough for 6tails, which I am presuming is more than half of its chakra, then the chakra would have less than 500 and the bros would have more than 500, which means that the bros are actually stronger than the ninetail fox. Good one. Why didn't they kill it then? Or are you suggesting that the bros took over 500 points of chakra from the ninetails and the ninetails still has 1000 points ? Is that even maths is a cheap cheat ? And if both brothers have 6 tails then 6 tails + 6 tails = the power of 12 tails right ? The fox would have about the power of 1tail left after the bros took that much. YES, TOOK. They did not borrow or anything else, they took that chakra from the ninetails forever. Stop overestimating the bros and think. At least stop being an Itachi hater.

that math is a fail, because chakra naturaly regenarates. and who said they knew how to control/knew they had it assoon as they were drown up????? and its not that he or me is a itachi hater, its more so that most ppl on this site think itachi is a god. we are his fans aswell but we dont think he would defeat 97% of the ninjas that ever lived.

 

[ReLax -]

Well said Professor Sarutobi.

Also NaurtoVSGoku it was true that Akatsuki travelled in groups (2 man cell) but so far we seen only one person go and catch each Jin.

Deidara and Sasori: Deidara went to catch Gaara

their was a few second scene where we saw Itachi sitting somewhere and Kisame comes alone with a tailed beast stating how much of a problem that tailed beast was to him

Tobi and Deidara: i think Tobi captured it a lone unless he was acting like a retard and just messed around making Deidara get it since he was hiding his identity at that time

 

[Draegod]

@ Draegod and NarutoVSGoku

Boys I apologize if I didn't cover any of your opinions But I will try to do my best here and make it as short as possible.

First off I never say Itachi can't be touch or is invisible (defeated) I don't know if you were referring to me that I over power Itach, NarutoVSGoku. But you know in a Itachi VS ??? thread I remember I backed you up on saying Itachi would be defeated and you said something a long the lines, "finally an Itachi fan who agrees" and I told you I call it the way I see it. I've said that the 4th Hokage can beat him and eventually leaned towards Pein on also beating him. So don't go around saying things that I over power Itachi and state that he can't be defeated right now all I'm saying is KinGin can't defeat him.

I mean logically we don't know much about KinGin only 3 chapters worth and yet people are already deciding that Itachi would get defeated by them with ease as you guys are putting it. I find it funny when people mention Itachi winning they say His MS, Sasuano'o, Genjutsu, or Amaterasu and right now all you both can say is the rope (sealing thing) or their transformation would lead to Itachi defeat. Lets not forget Itachi's Susano'o is pretty much Invisiable as Zetsu stated and he has the sealing sword except for his you don't need a word one touch it's over. (Not stating it would be easy and they'd get caught just throwing something out their) basically you can say a sealing for a sealing lol corny but yeah. But it's true Itachi biggest concern would be the rope (sealing)

Now the transformation. I don't understand how you don't get that their transformation isn't a bijuu but a replica type of thing (Meaning they aren't as strong as the 6 tailed Naruto goes in and even they look different). Remember they don't have the kyuubi just it's chakra. I will post my own opinion or what I think about their transformation near the end of this discussion.

Draegod

You talk about not saying just cause Oro defeat this person and Itachi defeated Oro which means Itachi could also beat the people Oro has. Well of course he can, It shows Itachi has surpassed someone like Oro so why can't he? The full nine tails I doubt anyone can fight it one on one except we seen Madara, 1st Hokage and Minato face off with it. Itachi can stand toe to toe with the 4 or 6 tails not an easy task but can be done. Even in the manga that argument is valid. When people heard Sasuke was one who defeated Zabuza a lot of question arose on him and than when it was said he defeated Oro same thing, also the that one girl from Tusikage side wanted to see how strong this Sasuke was when they found out he defeated Deidara. So don't say things like this are pathetic and useless when people use that in the manga themselves knowing that person he's no ordinary ninja. And this is what I'm trying to prove that Itachi defeated Oro twice in a blink of an eye showing he ain't your ordinary ninja and would just like Oro be able to fight off a 4 tailed beast. In other words Oro took out Kazekage and Third Hokage and Itachi took Oro out so your saying Itachi couldn't take the Kazekage and Third out, if he wanted to kill them? Defeating Oro proves he can if he wanted to or it would just be stupid seeing that Oro lost to someone who's weaker than people he has fought in the past.

@ NarutoVSGoku

When Kakashi was caught in Itachi genjutsu it wasn't his strong will that helped him survive he even said Itachi could've killed him if he wanted. Also in the genjutsu it wasn't even one second outside that genjutsu so you say Itachi getting caught with sealing tech. the question is what if Itachi caught one of them in that exact genjutsu? one down and he would have one to go right? Also you make it seem so easy that one will distract Itachi the other will blindside attack him, don't think it would be that easy for it to happen.

NaurtoVSGoku Also you mentioned not much villages knew about the KinGin like Tsunade for example who's been around for a long time, so that means KinGin's weren't famous at all and were ninjas just causing mayhem in their own village? It is said that they interfered in the treaty between cloud and leaf while the second Hokage and Raikage were their and still Konoho has nothing on them? from that all it seems is that they weren't as strong as you guys are going on about.

Ok enough of that now I want to discuss about their tailed beats mode or transformation. I think their tailed beats mode is much like Oro curse seal mark. Just like the curse seal somewhat gives them a different kinda chakra (the 2nd stage seal) and they transform thats what I think maybe that kyuubi chakra does to KinGins, We know they don't have the actually beast just it's chakra they transform into something big looking like kyuubi (their 6 tails looks alot different than Naruto's in Pein's battle) So they have kyuubi chakra, which allows them to transform to the kyuubi but it's nothing compared to the real kyuubi that Naruto has. Which still proves that yes they have their own strenght and kyuubi's but theirs limit like curse seal.

These are just my thoughts and opinions on this battle and their tailed beats mode, so don't respond back by saying I'm making things up as I said it's just a thought and opinion thats all.

PS: Agreed with Stampy. Also even if people did know about Madara and Izuna MS pretty sure their abilities were different so KinGin's wouldn't know anythings about Itachi's MS ability and that is Itachi's biggest advantage especially when they first encounter an MS user I think they may have to think before doing anything

+rep to Stampy

i wasnt talking directly bout u being and itachi lover, i know u are a reasonable person to argue with.

but.. the reason why i say dont bring up the itacchi oru thing is because, 1- oru, sasori, kabuto, and ksasori was the reason he got in the village and everything was set up). oru defeated the 3rd, but it was more of a kamikazi attempt (ima seal everyyyyyyybody.lol). oru didnt defeate the 4tails, he couldnt even scatch him in a sense. oru was defeated by itachi long ago b4 he fought kaze, ho, and 4tails naruto. how do we know he used edo tensei and summed the 1st and 2nd??? exactly because he didnt. diedara was defeated by itachi because he was playing (they both were.lol) he didnt use c2, c3, c4, and selfdestruct (not saying he would of won, but we dont know) plus itachi doesnt have lightning techs that made sakuse win..

and the whole itachi and tobi vs the uchia clan is also null and void. one, they both had ms (atleast itachi did), tobi can watch itachis blind spot (teleport), tobi knew everyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyything about the uchias then some. and it wasnt itachi vs them all, it was itachi and tobi vs them all by surprise. im sure if danzou and other elder (who can teleport) knew everything about the clan like tobi, hell they would of went in and killed them asell.lol and ppl are forgetting, itachis ms techs use an extordinary amount of chakra, he had to leave asap after he use tsukiomi on kakashi. sasuke had ms for about 2days and went blind because he spamed the shit out of it. itachi is a smart ninja and yaw make it seem like he would start off with ms, wrong he knows the risk and doesnt do it till later in the fight, and b4 he relizes it,, BAMM hit with the rope.lol..

itachi is an amazing shinobi, but some of you (not you bruh) needs to look out side the box and relize there are dead ninjas that can beat itachi and other famous ninjas..

 

[Draegod]

Well said Professor Sarutobi.

Also NaurtoVSGoku it was true that Akatsuki travelled in groups (2 man cell) but so far we seen only one person go and catch each Jin.

Deidara and Sasori: Deidara went to catch Gaara

their was a few second scene where we saw Itachi sitting somewhere and Kisame comes alone with a tailed beast stating how much of a problem that tailed beast was to him

Tobi and Deidara: i think Tobi captured it a lone unless he was acting like a retard and just messed around making Deidara get it since he was hiding his identity at that time

it was the 4tails lava style ninja from the stone village.. kisame is a spl case, him vs a non fully contoled jinjuriki equals bad match up.lol plus its water>lava.lol plus even he admitted he had trouble catching him.. just adding tha in.lol

 

[ReLax -]

it was the 4tails lava style ninja from the stone village.. kisame is a spl case, him vs a non fully contoled jinjuriki equals bad match up.lol plus its water>lava.lol plus even he admitted he had trouble catching him.. just adding tha in.lol

Lol I know. I don't mean to say it would be a walk in the park for them, all I'm stating here is that they can all stand against a Jinjuriki alone. Some may be able to beat them and some will take them to a limit. Lets not forget these guys can't kill them either so they have a big disadvantage while capturing them while the jinjuriki is trying to kill them

 

[Professor Sarutobi]

it was the 4tails lava style ninja from the stone village.. kisame is a spl case, him vs a non fully contoled jinjuriki equals bad match up.lol plus its water>lava.lol plus even he admitted he had trouble catching him.. just adding tha in.lol

well he said he was a bit tired if thats what you mean lol, and itachi thought the 4tails was about to die but kisame said you only think that because you don't know what he can do, i wonder how that fight matched up tho since kisame's cloak wasn't even damaged maybe he dominated 4tails?

 

[Cyborg]

This is a tough one..........for me, it all depends on whether the rope of clarity and the other 2 soul seizing items can capture and seal not just souls but spirit items, would it work with a fully activated susanoo.......normally i'd say no but i dunno if a combo attack by a pair who has 9 tails chakra might not weaken it.....not definitive either way.

 

[Draegod]

well he said he was a bit tired if thats what you mean lol, and itachi thought the 4tails was about to die but kisame said you only think that because you don't know what he can do, i wonder how that fight matched up tho since kisame's cloak wasn't even damaged maybe he dominated 4tails?

orrrrrrrrrrr, maybe he took off his cloak, or had a spare.lolxd

 

[Professor Sarutobi]

orrrrrrrrrrr, maybe he took off his cloak, or had a spare.lolxd

lol maybe he threw that up too like his water and the kingin's weps (and everything orochimaru ever had with him)

 

[Stampy]

and the whole itachi and tobi vs the uchia clan is also null and void. one, they both had ms (atleast itachi did), tobi can watch itachis blind spot (teleport), tobi knew everyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyything about the uchias then some. and it wasnt itachi vs them all, it was itachi and tobi vs them all by surprise. im sure if danzou and other elder (who can teleport) knew everything about the clan like tobi, hell they would of went in and killed them asell.lol and ppl are forgetting, itachis ms techs use an extordinary amount of chakra, he had to leave asap after he use tsukiomi on kakashi. sasuke had ms for about 2days and went blind because he spamed the shit out of it. itachi is a smart ninja and yaw make it seem like he would start off with ms, wrong he knows the risk and doesnt do it till later in the fight, and b4 he relizes it,, BAMM hit with the rope.lol..

itachi is an amazing shinobi, but some of you (not you bruh) needs to look out side the box and relize there are dead ninjas that can beat itachi and other famous ninjas..

Danzo could not teleport lol. Izanagi is a genjutsu. epic fail there.
Also when you say ms uses lots of chakra its true but it does not cripple him... And for the 1000th time he does not flee cause he is exausted (HELL he looks fine to me when he does so) its because he was just sending danzo a message after the third pass, and he used that as an excuse to not blow his cover with Kisame. ITACHI DOES NOT WANT TO KILL KONOHA NINJAS how many time will it have to be said ?!

itachi is a smart ninja and yaw make it seem like he would start off with ms, wrong he knows the risk and doesnt do it till later in the fight, and b4 he relizes it,, BAMM hit with the rope.lol..

Itachi is a smart ninja he would avoid a sparkling looking rope... he is fast, much faster than the bros (I didn't here anybody complain about there speed yet), the only reason they succeeded is because of the stupid guy who rushed in, the sister that followed, and the no problem I can loose my arm cause Im dead and it'll come back anyway trick.
Also he does start off his fights with MS, usually finishes too.
I have yet to hear how the KinGin bros would avoid Amateresu which they have no knowledge of, and how they would get through the unbreakable yata shield.

 

[Draegod]

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QUOTE=Stampy;2780875]Danzo could not teleport lol. Izanagi is a genjutsu. epic fail there.
Also when you say ms uses lots of chakra its true but it does not cripple him... And for the 1000th time he does not flee cause he is exausted (HELL he looks fine to me when he does so) its because he was just sending danzo a message after the third pass, and he used that as an excuse to not blow his cover with Kisame. ITACHI DOES NOT WANT TO KILL KONOHA NINJAS how many time will it have to be said ?!

who even said danzou could teleport????? if u pay attention, u will notice i was joking by saying if there was any ninja that could tele like tobi (the joke was noboby can tele like tobi, pay attention now) i was saying itachi had tobi on his side ao that helped him out alot. and we know he wasnt trying to kil any konaha ninjas, that still does not disprove the fact that kisame said that move takes alot of chakra (or something like that).

Itachi is a smart ninja he would avoid a sparkling looking rope... he is fast, much faster than the bros (I didn't here anybody complain about there speed yet), the only reason they succeeded is because of the stupid guy who rushed in, the sister that followed, and the no problem I can loose my arm cause Im dead and it'll come back anyway trick.
Also he does start off his fights with MS, usually finishes too.
I have yet to hear how the KinGin bros would avoid Amateresu which they have no knowledge of, and how they would get through the unbreakable yata shield.

[/QUOTE]
dude, the bros were playing with them the wholeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee time, and just wanted to play the name game for amusement. that still doesnt make them stupid or anything. dude.. smh.. we know they have nothing on the susanoo (shield), but what does itachi have on 2 6 tails??? also what i am saying is itachi doesnt waste his ms at the begining because of the chakra cost, and doesnt need susanoo unless he needs it. my point is he would engage in taijutsu with them, get touched, then b4 he know it, its over. you dont have to be smart to get touched by a rope wen u dont relize the rope could seal you. itachi is very fast and skilled at taijutsu, im sure he will make contact with them, then get touched. he does not have intel on them, im not saying there better, but if that rope touches him hes a goner befor he uses susanoo. wake up! itachi is great we get that, but he isnt the smatest ninja that knows everything, that can beat everyone, that can spam ms like his bro, that isnt sick, that has unlimited chakra. u may not relize but but thats basicly what ur making my boi itachi out to be.. sooo im out, i got my opinion and u hve urs, leave it at that..

 

[niblack89]

Really this shouldn't even be a question. Itachi has the sharingan the main power of the sharingan is it predicts movements. Itachi also isn't no novice shinobi he is known for his incredible speed he can easily dodge that rope. Forgot Itachi's main skill. He is the master of genjutsu capable of getting anyone in his illusions. He could get them to fight and seal themselves.

Itachi also should not be underestimated in his knowledge of ninja weapons seeing as he gained two (possibly 3) of the greatest weapons even seen so far in the shinobi world. I'm sure he knows of the rikudou sennin's special weapons and wont get cough so easily with them.

Also have anyone forgotten that he has a MS. Tsukuyomi the greatest eye genjutsu. Itachi's tsukuyomi is so powerful that it can manipulate your sense of time. The only known ways of escaping it is to have a partner to wake you up but the jutsu takes seconds to complete or have a even greater sharingan.

Itachi has Amaterasu which we all knows what it does. Only very fast shinobi can escape. If Itachi gets close enough it could be impossible to counter. Itachi can easily do that with his speed.

Lastly Itachi has the ultimate shield that nothing can get through and a sealing sword. All in his Susano'o.

 

[Stampy]

who even said danzou could teleport????? if u pay attention, u will notice i was joking by saying if there was any ninja that could tele like tobi (the joke was noboby can tele like tobi, pay attention now) i was saying itachi had tobi on his side ao that helped him out alot. and we know he wasnt trying to kil any konaha ninjas, that still does not disprove the fact that kisame said that move takes alot of chakra (or something like that).

dude, the bros were playing with them the wholeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee time, and just wanted to play the name game for amusement. that still doesnt make them stupid or anything. dude.. smh.. we know they have nothing on the susanoo (shield), but what does itachi have on 2 6 tails??? also what i am saying is itachi doesnt waste his ms at the begining because of the chakra cost, and doesnt need susanoo unless he needs it. my point is he would engage in taijutsu with them, get touched, then b4 he know it, its over. you dont have to be smart to get touched by a rope wen u dont relize the rope could seal you. itachi is very fast and skilled at taijutsu, im sure he will make contact with them, then get touched. he does not have intel on them, im not saying there better, but if that rope touches him hes a goner befor he uses susanoo. wake up! itachi is great we get that, but he isnt the smatest ninja that knows everything, that can beat everyone, that can spam ms like his bro, that isnt sick, that has unlimited chakra. u may not relize but but thats basicly what ur making my boi itachi out to be.. sooo im out, i got my opinion and u hve urs, leave it at that..

You actually said he could teleport, I'm sorry I didn't perceived it as sarcasm that really wasn't easy to see. And Kisame has no clue how much a toll it takes on the user, he only knows what Itachi tells him. And Itachi wants out of the village before hurting anyone... So he tells him things like I'm too exausted....

Now, you say the bros where playing with them the WHOLEEEEEEEEEEEEE time correct? or sarcasm as well? Does that change anything about the stupid guy who rushed in, the sister that had to follow to save him and the infamous no problem I can loose my arm cause Im dead and it'll come back anyway trick?

Also, if they were playing, how come one of them got sealed away?! Are they not likely too severely underestimate Itachi the same way? I think they are. (ASSUMING THEY WERE UNDERESTIMATING THAT GROUP).

Also in that last chapter Kakuza sees the 6 tails chakra from far away (Instantly recognize Ginkaku btw) and instantly assume someone killed Kinkaku... So that being said, does it not kind of imply that something has to happen to the other bro for that transformation to occur? If yes then how could Itachi fight 2 6 tails chakra, assuming one of them have to be either badly hurt (almost dead) or dead? Now even if they do get on kyuubi mode (the Both of them) Sharingan can STILL suppress Kyuubi's chakra (stop overreading my arguments before giving me new ones....)

Once again Itachi DOES start off with MS usually and usually that one thing he does is enough to finish the fight as well. Stop saying he wouldn't start with it when he actually does, expecially since I'm sure he would know who they are.

For the rope, AGAIN, Itachi is much faster, a good taijutsu user, and a sharingan holder, what make you think he would let himself touch by a tingling rope? ...

I have yet to hear those counters against How they could dodge Itachi's Amateresu not knowing the tech, or how they could break in Susano'o.

 

[Anub]

that math is a fail, because chakra naturaly regenarates. and who said they knew how to control/knew they had it assoon as they were drown up????? and its not that he or me is a itachi hater, its more so that most ppl on this site think itachi is a god. we are his fans aswell but we dont think he would defeat 97% of the ninjas that ever lived.

Chakra does not regenerate if you actually steal it and you have it forever. Honestly, try to be objective here:

if the bros could steal 6 tails (each?)
1. the bros would actually be stronger than the fox when they got out and they could easily defeat it, because I'm guessing the fox's chakra doesn't suddenly replenish in 1 second.
2. the fox cannot have that chakra back while the brothers still have it forever. Are you trying to say that people can actually create tailed beasts like that? Let's just steal 8 tails from the 9tails fox and we would have another 8tailed beast. Nevermind the whole SO6P creating the tailed beasts out of 1 strong entity. Everyone can do that now, just steal some chakra and use it forever in any way you want it.

And people on this site to not think Itachi is god. I can actually accuse most of you of overpowering the kingin bros just because you saw raikage get scared. I doubt you will see my post as useful and stop trying to counter me by saying that I think Itachi wins everything. If Itachi is strong, yes he wins. I really think that Minato can beat anyone in the naruto universe. And at some point even Kishi said that minato is the strongest shinobi that ever lived(don't ask me for proof cause I don't have it). Are you honestly going to call me a Minato fanboy if I agree that he is probably the strongest shinobi? If the facts prove it, then he is. Stop accusing people of being fanboys and start picking on their arguments.

 

[Stampy]

Chakra does not regenerate if you actually steal it and you have it forever. Honestly, try to be objective here:

if the bros could steal 6 tails (each?)
1. the bros would actually be stronger than the fox when they got out and they could easily defeat it, because I'm guessing the fox's chakra doesn't suddenly replenish in 1 second.
2. the fox cannot have that chakra back while the brothers still have it forever. Are you trying to say that people can actually create tailed beasts like that? Let's just steal 8 tails from the 9tails fox and we would have another 8tailed beast. Nevermind the whole SO6P creating the tailed beasts out of 1 strong entity. Everyone can do that now, just steal some chakra and use it forever in any way you want it.

And people on this site to not think Itachi is god. I can actually accuse most of you of overpowering the kingin bros just because you saw raikage get scared. I doubt you will see my post as useful and stop trying to counter me by saying that I think Itachi wins everything. If Itachi is strong, yes he wins. I really think that Minato can beat anyone in the naruto universe. And at some point even Kishi said that minato is the strongest shinobi that ever lived(don't ask me for proof cause I don't have it). Are you honestly going to call me a Minato fanboy if I agree that he is probably the strongest shinobi? If the facts prove it, then he is. Stop accusing people of being fanboys and start picking on their arguments.

Why do you further proove your math dude?! There is nothing wrong with it, if you notices he just says its a fail (out of where ? he has yet to give us the arguments) Just let him be lol...
By the way Kishi may have just said that Minato is the greatest living ninja of his time no?! (Don't get me wrong I am a Minato hardcore fan I would like it the other way as well lol just testing you on how sure you are about this)

 

[Anub]

Why do you further proove your math dude?! There is nothing wrong with it, if you notices he just says its a fail (out of where ? he has yet to give us the arguments) Just let him be lol...
By the way Kishi may have just said that Minato is the greatest living ninja of his time no?! (Don't get me wrong I am a Minato hardcore fan I would like it the other way as well lol just testing you on how sure you are about this)

With regards to minato being the strongest.

SJ = Shonen Jump
MK = Masashi Kishimoto

SJ: There's many rumours regarding Madara being the absolute final villain. Is this true?

MK: Madara being the final villain is yet to be seen and I can't let that information out just yet. But he will play a big part as a villain, that's for sure.

SJ: Now that it's officially known that Yondaime is Naruto's father, will you show more of Minato?

MK: Yes, definitly. I actually wanted to reveal more about Yondaime earlier, but other characters were in development and some fights still had to be dealt with.

SJ: While we're at it... could you please tell us if Minato was the strongest shinobi that ever lived?

MK: Hmmm, it's a tricky question. As far as dead shinobis goes, then yes, he's the strongest. I'd say that Sandaime shares the number one spot with him. As far as living shinobis goes... well, without going into many details I'd have to say no. There's a couple of shinobis whose stronger than him.

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so he was saying that minato is the strongest dead shinobi. Living include Tobi, sasuke and naruto so i guess he's not really the strongest.

 

[nando1992]

I think itachi is a lot stronger. The brothers aren't a match for him.

 

[ReLax -]

i wasnt talking directly bout u being and itachi lover, i know u are a reasonable person to argue with.

but.. the reason why i say dont bring up the itacchi oru thing is because, 1- oru, sasori, kabuto, and ksasori was the reason he got in the village and everything was set up). oru defeated the 3rd, but it was more of a kamikazi attempt (ima seal everyyyyyyybody.lol). oru didnt defeate the 4tails, he couldnt even scatch him in a sense. oru was defeated by itachi long ago b4 he fought kaze, ho, and 4tails naruto. how do we know he used edo tensei and summed the 1st and 2nd??? exactly because he didnt. diedara was defeated by itachi because he was playing (they both were.lol) he didnt use c2, c3, c4, and selfdestruct (not saying he would of won, but we dont know) plus itachi doesnt have lightning techs that made sakuse win..

and the whole itachi and tobi vs the uchia clan is also null and void. one, they both had ms (atleast itachi did), tobi can watch itachis blind spot (teleport), tobi knew everyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyything about the uchias then some. and it wasnt itachi vs them all, it was itachi and tobi vs them all by surprise. im sure if danzou and other elder (who can teleport) knew everything about the clan like tobi, hell they would of went in and killed them asell.lol and ppl are forgetting, itachis ms techs use an extordinary amount of chakra, he had to leave asap after he use tsukiomi on kakashi. sasuke had ms for about 2days and went blind because he spamed the shit out of it. itachi is a smart ninja and yaw make it seem like he would start off with ms, wrong he knows the risk and doesnt do it till later in the fight, and b4 he relizes it,, BAMM hit with the rope.lol..

itachi is an amazing shinobi, but some of you (not you bruh) needs to look out side the box and relize there are dead ninjas that can beat itachi and other famous ninjas..

Will, first don't even bring Deidara up. He got beaten by Itachi's Sharingan genjutsu and prepared for that he doesn't even know what Itachi's MS is capable of.

Itachi actually didn't use his MS as far as I seen in the manga/anime so far when he massacred his clan. I mean if he used it don't you think a lot of people would sense the chakra or even heard screams and what not? It was all done stealthy and quietly without anyone noticing. And like you said Itachi wouldn't just use his MS right off the bat and I don't think he needed MS to defeat the clan, he was one of the strongest along with Madara, Izuna, and Shisui. They also didn't face the clan all at once they most likely took them out one at a time or family after another.

Like pervious post has been said Itachi must've had some knowledge of the weapons KinGin's hold since he has 2 of the legendary 3 attached with his Susano'o. Also Danzou was around in the KinGin's era he never mentioned much about them but he must've had knowledge of their skills and weapon within the Root ANBU record or something.

Also don't say Itachi gets hit with the rope (without realizing) and "BAMM". If thats the case BAMM the borther with the rope is in a genjutsu hits Itachi but doesn't realize he was in genjutsu and caught his own brother one down one to go either Amateresu or Susano'o will do the job. Realizing here he didn't start off with MS his regular Sharingan can catch you in some powerful genjutsu. (Deidara as an example, with his own clay instead of wrapped around Itachi it was him)

Their are shinobi's that can beat Itachi no one is saying that, we are on the topic that KinGin's can't beat Itachi.

 

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Will, first don't even bring Deidara up. He got beaten by Itachi's Sharingan genjutsu and prepared for that he doesn't even know what Itachi's MS is capable of.

Itachi actually didn't use his MS as far as I seen in the manga/anime so far when he massacred his clan. I mean if he used it don't you think a lot of people would sense the chakra or even heard screams and what not? It was all done stealthy and quietly without anyone noticing. And like you said Itachi wouldn't just use his MS right off the bat and I don't think he needed MS to defeat the clan, he was one of the strongest along with Madara, Izuna, and Shisui. They also didn't face the clan all at once they most likely took them out one at a time or family after another.

Like pervious post has been said Itachi must've had some knowledge of the weapons KinGin's hold since he has 2 of the legendary 3 attached with his Susano'o. Also Danzou was around in the KinGin's era he never mentioned much about them but he must've had knowledge of their skills and weapon within the Root ANBU record or something.

Also don't say Itachi gets hit with the rope (without realizing) and "BAMM". If thats the case BAMM the borther with the rope is in a genjutsu hits Itachi but doesn't realize he was in genjutsu and caught his own brother one down one to go either Amateresu or Susano'o will do the job. Realizing here he didn't start off with MS his regular Sharingan can catch you in some powerful genjutsu. (Deidara as an example, with his own clay instead of wrapped around Itachi it was him)

Their are shinobi's that can beat Itachi no one is saying that, we are on the topic that KinGin's can't beat Itachi.[/QUOTE

if we are on the topic of kingin vs itachi, then why are you still bringing up deidara and danzou them?????????? lol no two ninjas are the same, and the kingin togather are far above diedara. tell me this, why do u keep comparing them to ninjas that have no likeness, skills, or strnght like them? thats like me comparing shaq to michael jordan, there both good, but its different positions. smh.. i can tell by ur avatar that ur a itachi fan and a big one at tthat? can itachi beat pain, the 4th, the 1st, raikage, tsushikage, madara ems, izuna, SO6P, naruto rikudo mode, etc etc???? i wanna see what you think.....lol