Minato would have to make a zillion marks in random places before a fight to even use it against Goku.. that wouldn't go well eh?
It's not like he'd be able to touch Goku or Ichigo to use it properly.
[Predictions] Kenpachi will Take the "COMMANDER" spot, in the end of the Arc.
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It's not like he'd be able to touch Goku or Ichigo to use it properly.KingHashirama
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Icihigo is slightly above Lee's 5 gates.. Not even close to the speed of LIGHT aka Goku , Minato, Naruto, Kizaru.Minato would have to make a zillion marks in random places before a fight to even use it against Goku.. that wouldn't go well eh?
he actually wouldn't he could make marks on goku or the land he is on.. or just use a kunai but yea. and it doesn't have to be before the fight either.
My prediction to the plot!
All Captains are basicly down *
Kenpachi shows his power by killing 3 b1tches*
Now Buckbeard will Kill Kenpachi without any problem
and Ichigo will defeat Buckbeard to show us how epic Ichigo is once again! uuuuu
sounds like kubo?
All Captains are basicly down *
Kenpachi shows his power by killing 3 b1tches*
Now Buckbeard will Kill Kenpachi without any problem
and Ichigo will defeat Buckbeard to show us how epic Ichigo is once again! uuuuu
sounds like kubo?
kotoamatsukami
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Yea they wer weak the quincys they showed once they enterd thoes r the stronger ones kenpachi beat some lower level rejects.
KingHashirama
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yeehh buddy xD. Lets just enjoy the epicness of bleach ;3It's kind of a pointless debate when both parties can't really be swayed one way or the other.
Let's just agree to disagree and keep on enjoying the heck out of them.
Nah i doubt kubo will kill Kenpachi. Hes probably his favorite to xD.My prediction to the plot!
All Captains are basicly down *
Kenpachi shows his power by killing 3 b1tches*
Now Buckbeard will Kill Kenpachi without any problem
and Ichigo will defeat Buckbeard to show us how epic Ichigo is once again! uuuuu
Actually no. The problem is basically simple.. Kenpachi is strong in his Base form.. Well currently he was fighting BELOW his base form. Other Captains are pieces of Crap in their base Forms. Which is why Ikaku called Kenpachi the strongest Captain. The only other person with the same amount of Reitsu that explodes is Yamamoto.
There would be no point in Kenpachi killing weak quincy.... and then coming to boss. That would be lame. And i doubt Kubo wants LAME
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1. I smell Kenpachi fanboyism everywhere, tbh the guy is terrible. Anyone faster then him can pretty much beat the guy, plus hes really dumb.
2. Grimmjow is alive as it was revealed.
3. Gin is dead, the plot was he said his goodbyes to Rangiku and that was it.
1. I smell Kenpachi fanboyism everywhere, tbh the guy is terrible. Anyone faster then him can pretty much beat the guy, plus hes really dumb.
2. Grimmjow is alive as it was revealed.
3. Gin is dead, the plot was he said his goodbyes to Rangiku and that was it.
You're so ignorant and naive it's unbelievable.
It doesn't matter if knowing your zanpaktou's name is a Shinigami power or not. Kenpachi is the one and only exception to that in the entire manga, ever. It's the whole essence of his character - the brute that fights with sheer power and power alone.
Yes, knowing his zanpaktou's name - learning Bankai to be more specific - will ruin his character beyond repair.
lubricati0n
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Just so you know, Susanoo is not invincible. Like you mentioned it was Itachi's shield that made his Susanoo have a powerful defense. A Susanoo by itself is not invincible. So I could even say Itachi's Susanoo is still > then Sasuke's even if he has EMS.
Frieza could blow up planets easily. By now, everyone from Piccolo and above is stronger then Frieza. So really, Piccolo, Gohan, Vegeta, Goten+Trunks can all do the same as Goku or any villain like Frieza, Cell etc.
Again I said in terms of power scaling Bleach is on a higher scale then Naruto. -Genjutsu is not a valid point because Shinigami are firstly not human and secondly they don't have "chakra". Just like Spiritual Pressure wouldn't affect any Naruto character.
-Naruto summons are not as strong as you put them to be.
Do you really think ninjutsu is as strong as something like Genryuusai's Ryuujin Jakka or Senbonzakura or any of the captains abilities and possibly even the stronger Vice Captains such as Renji and Hisagi. Soifon's Bankai nuke would crush Konoha or any other village faster then Pein did.
DBZ characters blow up planets with a finger just so you know.
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KingHashirama
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Actually no.. Learning his Zanpaktou's name was already hinted after the ichigo fight.. And that is the only Regret Kenpachi has.... or atleast the only one that is shown. Kenpachi is not a exception.. Kenpachi is the same other characters. The point is that Kenpachi in the base forms he is the strongest captain. ;].
If he was a exception there would have been no point in showing him regreting to know his Zanpaktou's name.
No mate bleach is the last on the power scaling.... Dragonabllz and One piece are the top ones.
MAdara can just spam meteors.. HAshirama can change the whole land scape.... and etc.
And the shinigami thing isn't a excuse... If your taking into account they are dead people and are shinigami then THEY ARE THE STRONGEST.. O_X.
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kotoamatsukami
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Most likey some quincies r stronger than others an I'm guessing he took some of the weaker ones out.
KingHashirama
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but i doubt it. If he did take out the weaker ones. Then the entrance is not epic. But we'll see im assuming
Professor Sarutobi
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No way kenpachi will become CC, even if he was the strongest it wouldn't be in his nature.
If yamamoto dies, one of the senior captains or possibly a squad zero member would take the position. Ichigo is probably going to be (if he isn't already) the strongest as far as the 13 court guards go by the end of the manga.
And ken is pretty unpredictable so no one really knows how he will do against the 2nd in command (ichigo will beat the leader) he one shot his full bringer opponent so we can't say how strong he got in the time skip.
If yamamoto dies, one of the senior captains or possibly a squad zero member would take the position. Ichigo is probably going to be (if he isn't already) the strongest as far as the 13 court guards go by the end of the manga.
And ken is pretty unpredictable so no one really knows how he will do against the 2nd in command (ichigo will beat the leader) he one shot his full bringer opponent so we can't say how strong he got in the time skip.
KingHashirama
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Nah Kenpachi will be the most likely one to face him. Why?? BECAUSE THE LOOK BADASS AGAINST EACH OTHER xD. Plus Buckbeard looks like he has the same blood thrill as Kenpachi. So ichigo will most like face the Second in Command (the blonde guy) who eventually would turn out be stronger then Buckbeard.. Just like how Uliqqoreo (don't know how to spell his name) turned out to be the strongest Espada.
Professor Sarutobi
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I guess he could fight the leader but I doubt it will be a long fight, the 2nd in command is probably going to put up a great fight with a surprise ending...and ulq wasn't the strongest espada. I know its a heavily debated topic with his 2nd release and a lot of fans disliking stark but I still think fighting and nearly killing 4 senior captains by himself was more impressive then ulq tearing apart ichigo until he became a hollow and got owned.
And then the bull with yammy supposedly being even stronger then both but was toyed with by two captains SMH...
And then the bull with yammy supposedly being even stronger then both but was toyed with by two captains SMH...
KingHashirama
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lmao bleach can get wierd sometimes. But you have to remember tho The senior captains didn't even bother using their bankai. And plus the fighting was totally on different Powers. Ichigo vs Ulq was on a another level then Stark vs Shunsui and others. Plus i think Ulq himself said that his power is the greatest in the Espada didn't he say that??
Professor Sarutobi
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He said aizen didn't know about his 2nd form but earlier when he killed ichigo he said "even if you defeat me their are still 3 others even stronger then me" so weather he was lying to hide his true power oor admitted that he was really weaker one on one its hard to tell.
We don't know their bankais but shunsui was about to use his before ukitake stepped in to help and said something like his bankai isn't suited to fight a opponent line starrk.
We don't know their bankais but shunsui was about to use his before ukitake stepped in to help and said something like his bankai isn't suited to fight a opponent line starrk.
lubricati0n
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Your logic is stupid lol. Here you are using the most OP characters in Naruto. But read this. Ichigo and Aizen changed the landscape with just swings of their swords. Genryuusai would blow up the landscape faster then Deidara if he ever used his Bankai even though his Shikai is enough, on a larger scale too.
See what I mean, I'm judging by GENERAL power, not through the most OP characters.
In general, Bleach characters already move MUCH faster then Naruto characters and their abilities are stronger(especially the captains and stronger VC's, Visoreds) then any ninjutsu.
And duh I'm taking into account shinigami. Shinigami are the majority of people that make up the Bleach universe. Just like ninjas make up the Naruto universe. You can't take them out when judging general power. Even if I do take them out, Sado and Ishida already have abilities on the power levels a lower end captain or average. Their speed is already as fast as Sonido/Shunpo. Inoue has "healing" powers greater then any Naruto character ever would have.