Kamui's weakness and Naruto and Sasuke vs MS Obito and Kakashi ( Individually )

garas56

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Kakashi and Obito wild stomp Sasuke and Naruto if they wuld be in team but Individualy Kakashi<=Naruto,Kakashi<=>Sasuke,Obito>Sasuke,Obito>Naruto
Dont forget that without Kakashis(kamui) Obito can't be killed or tuched with his Kamui he simply beats Naruto and Sasuke...
 

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Nope, the Kamui was already cast. The hole was created and Gedo would have been sucked if not for Obito's intervention.

If you need a proof of Kakashi's Kamui's casting being complete, look at the very page you showed here and notice Kakashi being tired from using Kamui.
I never said that Kakashi didn't cast Kamui, but he never Kamui'd Gado's head, what could have happened if Obito hadn't interfered is another thing. Who knows Kakashi might have died while absorbing Gado resulting in failure of technique.
Kakashi used technique but it wasn't able to serve it's purpose it can go either way you know.
And the way Obito said that Kakashi was too much ambitious indicates that thing, doesn't it??O_O

Whether he attempted to do it or successfully did it doesn't matter as you still see the warp hole appear which means he still expended the chakra to do the jutsu. It even shows him panting a few panels later. Why would he pant if it didn't take chakra?

Just like if Naruto makes a rasengan but doesn't hit anyone with it, it doesn't mean he didn't use the chakra to activate the jutsu.
It took chakra, basically Kamui is absorbing/warping something by creating warp hole, Kakashi just created the hole, he didn't proceed to warp it, it requires chakra, but not that much chakra which you require to kamui something completely.:yeah:
I would like to debate more on this, but I have to go offline, sorry and bye..:bye:
 

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I never said that Kakashi didn't cast Kamui, but he never Kamui'd Gado's head, what could have happened if Obito hadn't interfered is another thing. Who knows Kakashi might have died while absorbing Gado resulting in failure of technique.
Kakashi used technique but it wasn't able to serve it's purpose it can go either way you know.
And the way Obito said that Kakashi was too much ambitious indicates that thing, doesn't it??O_O

It makes no sense for Kakashi to feel PARTIAL effects of Kamui usage if his Kamui was stopped. It's either that it was stopped and he doesn't feel any side-effects of using it (in which case he wouldn't be tired, but the panel clearly shows he is), or he wasted all the chakra he needed for this Kamui anyway, thus feeling tired afterwards (just like the manga showed us).

Besides, Obito said "too optimistic", which referred to Kakashi's hope of Obito not stopping it, not to Kakashi's ambition of warping it.
 
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