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I know i said this in my last thread :
But my inner self couldn't accept it , so here we go:
Kamui's weakness ( Obito's version ) :
MS Obito vs Naruto :
MS Obito vs Sasuke :
Kamui's weakness ( Kakashi's version )
Naruto vs Kakashi :
Sasuke vs Kakashi :
I will only respond to logical people who have argument and manga facts with them , and if i'm wrong , i'll say it , i'm not perfect , i'm just a human who can make mistakes like all of you..
But this type of post will be reported :
Kamui solos.
Off topic ( like mentioning Naruto vs Sasuke or Minato vs Obito etc... )
Insult.
Character bashing.
Thanks for reading.
If there is something i learned from this base , it would be to never argue with fanboys , especially Obito and Minato fanboys
But keep telling yourself that , i honestly don't care because i know it don't![]()
But my inner self couldn't accept it , so here we go:
Note : Please relax and read it until the end
Kamui's weakness ( Obito's version ) :
Obito can't stay intangible for more than 5 minutes.
In order to teleport someone , he needs to materialize.
Can't teleport dangerous object :
He needs to be near the target in order to teleport it.
In order to teleport someone , he needs to materialize.
Can't teleport dangerous object :
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MS Obito vs Naruto :
Naruto's speed :
And that's only KCM Naruto.
In short Naruto can simply blitz him , the only reason he didn't , its because of the plot.
Not to mention he can overwhelm him with clones.
PS: for those who says that =/= FTG , you're wrong and here is why :
FTG > Naruto's raw speed in Long distance ( like from village to village )
Naruto KCM speed = FTG In little distance ( like in a battlefield )
Also Obito can't touch BSM Naruto because the latter has both the sensing of negative emotion and the accurate sensing of the SM but If Obito manage to get a hold on Naruto and is about to teleport him :
Naruto can simply push Obito's hand with a chakra hand ( he can create a chakra hand from any part of his body ).
Also Obito can't tell a clone from the original ( Only Madara has shown to be capable of such feat )
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And that's only KCM Naruto.
In short Naruto can simply blitz him , the only reason he didn't , its because of the plot.
Not to mention he can overwhelm him with clones.
PS: for those who says that =/= FTG , you're wrong and here is why :
FTG > Naruto's raw speed in Long distance ( like from village to village )
Naruto KCM speed = FTG In little distance ( like in a battlefield )
Also Obito can't touch BSM Naruto because the latter has both the sensing of negative emotion and the accurate sensing of the SM but If Obito manage to get a hold on Naruto and is about to teleport him :
Naruto can simply push Obito's hand with a chakra hand ( he can create a chakra hand from any part of his body ).
Also Obito can't tell a clone from the original ( Only Madara has shown to be capable of such feat )
MS Obito vs Sasuke :
Both this guys have good pre cognition skills :
Obito lost to Minato in a speed battle and Sasuke lost to V2 Raikage in speed battle :
So until now its seems Obito has better pre cognition , but Sasuke has this feat :
If he can keep up with this form of Obito then he should have no problem keeping up with MS Obito.
But If Obito manages to get a hold on Sasuke and is about to teleport him , Sasuke can do this :
They are not threats for intangible Obito , but when he materialize to touch and teleport Sasuke he will get hurt :
In case 1 : his body will become numb
In case 2 : his materialized part will get burned
And don't give some BS , like Obito don't feel the pain of being burned , because this contradict you :
He is clearly in pain.
Also he can Amaterasu his eye when Obito is about to teleport him , and as i said in the weakness of Obito's Kamui :
He Can't teleport dangerous object :
Obito lost to Minato in a speed battle and Sasuke lost to V2 Raikage in speed battle :
So until now its seems Obito has better pre cognition , but Sasuke has this feat :
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If he can keep up with this form of Obito then he should have no problem keeping up with MS Obito.
But If Obito manages to get a hold on Sasuke and is about to teleport him , Sasuke can do this :
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They are not threats for intangible Obito , but when he materialize to touch and teleport Sasuke he will get hurt :
In case 1 : his body will become numb
In case 2 : his materialized part will get burned
And don't give some BS , like Obito don't feel the pain of being burned , because this contradict you :
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He is clearly in pain.
Also he can Amaterasu his eye when Obito is about to teleport him , and as i said in the weakness of Obito's Kamui :
He Can't teleport dangerous object :
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Kamui's weakness ( Kakashi's version )
Without Kyuubi's chakra , he can only teleport something of the size of person.
And after he teleports something like that ( like Naruto's clone ) he needs to recover a bit , as shown here :
( Gai is assisting him to stand up ).
And don't BS me with he can teleport something bigger than a person with his own chakra , all time he did or attempt to teleport something bigger , he had Kyuubi chakra ( absence of the cloak doesn't mean he don't have Kyuubi chakra like when Kyuubi thrown him at Obito )
In order to teleport something big ( a person for his chakra ,and a Bijuu for the Kyuubi chakra ) he needs to stay put and focus unlike a small object like a Kunai or Rasengan.
And after he teleports something like that ( like Naruto's clone ) he needs to recover a bit , as shown here :
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( Gai is assisting him to stand up ).
And don't BS me with he can teleport something bigger than a person with his own chakra , all time he did or attempt to teleport something bigger , he had Kyuubi chakra ( absence of the cloak doesn't mean he don't have Kyuubi chakra like when Kyuubi thrown him at Obito )
In order to teleport something big ( a person for his chakra ,and a Bijuu for the Kyuubi chakra ) he needs to stay put and focus unlike a small object like a Kunai or Rasengan.
Naruto's speed :
And that's only KCM Naruto.
In short Naruto can simply blitz him.
Not to mention he can overwhelm him with clones.
PS: for those who says that =/= FTG , you're wrong and here is why :
FTG > Naruto's raw speed in Long distance ( like from village to village )
Naruto KCM speed = FTG In little distance ( like in a battlefield )
Also Naruto can use Cho Odama Rasengan to cover himself from the line of sight of Kakashi ( the Rasengan isn't transparent so Kakashi has to teleport it before teleporting Naruto.
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And that's only KCM Naruto.
In short Naruto can simply blitz him.
Not to mention he can overwhelm him with clones.
PS: for those who says that =/= FTG , you're wrong and here is why :
FTG > Naruto's raw speed in Long distance ( like from village to village )
Naruto KCM speed = FTG In little distance ( like in a battlefield )
Also Naruto can use Cho Odama Rasengan to cover himself from the line of sight of Kakashi ( the Rasengan isn't transparent so Kakashi has to teleport it before teleporting Naruto.
Sasuke vs Kakashi :
Sasuke has shown a better pre cognition , in the Kage arc : he was able to keep up with V1 Ay and before that he was able to keep up with 6 tails Bee.
And in recent chapter he showed this feat :
Also Sasuke can create a wall of Enton to block himself from Kakashi's line of sight and the latter would have to teleport the Enton before Sasuke.
Also this two can OS each other , one with Kamui and the other with Amaterasu , and don't give me some BS like Amaterasu isn't instant , because it is :
( After that it moved normally because Sasuke wasn't focusing on the samourai )
For the Itachi vs Sasuke part :
Here is Itachi's vision after the Tsukuyomi ( after that he did 2 Amaterasu )
Keep in mind this is a near blind Itachi targeting Sasuke's wing ( he didn't want to kill Sasuke , just remove Orochimaru from him ).
But Kamui is instant as well , so this option will be deadly for both of them , that's why the option 1 ( Enton wall is the better one ).
And in recent chapter he showed this feat :
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Also Sasuke can create a wall of Enton to block himself from Kakashi's line of sight and the latter would have to teleport the Enton before Sasuke.
Also this two can OS each other , one with Kamui and the other with Amaterasu , and don't give me some BS like Amaterasu isn't instant , because it is :
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For the Itachi vs Sasuke part :
Here is Itachi's vision after the Tsukuyomi ( after that he did 2 Amaterasu )
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Keep in mind this is a near blind Itachi targeting Sasuke's wing ( he didn't want to kill Sasuke , just remove Orochimaru from him ).
But Kamui is instant as well , so this option will be deadly for both of them , that's why the option 1 ( Enton wall is the better one ).
I will only respond to logical people who have argument and manga facts with them , and if i'm wrong , i'll say it , i'm not perfect , i'm just a human who can make mistakes like all of you..
But this type of post will be reported :
Kamui solos.
Off topic ( like mentioning Naruto vs Sasuke or Minato vs Obito etc... )
Insult.
Character bashing.
Thanks for reading.
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