[Theory] Kakashi wasn´t lying, sharingan come from the byakugan and let me tell you why!!!

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's eyes were mutated down the generations to form the Sharingan and the Byakugan.

The Sage's eyes mutated into the Sharingan and Byakugan genetically like this guy said. Check your facts.
 

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Yes it was. He said it in a VM. He said it to Enzup because Enzup was bashing at Scorps.
Really? I didn´t know that but i assumed sinde there wasn´t the typical arrow to lead you to the original post that you wrote it yourself, sry then.:)
 

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I didn´t say uchiha weren´t direct descendants of the sage but you have nothing to disprove my theory, kakashi was right, sharingan come from byakugan and this is how it happened.

Ok, this is how it goes:
Sage had the Rinnegan. 10-tails had some sort of dojutsu too. Sage screwed a woman. The woman bore him two sons. His elder son got a dojutsu which was a mutation of that of 10-tails' and his father's. That elder son was the ancestor of the Uchiha and his dojutsu was the first version of the Sharingan that we know of (ergo Sharingan=mutation of Uchiha ancestor's dojutsu that formed through generations).

I don't see a Hyuuga anywhere in this story, unless the Sage of Six Paths somehow was a Hyuuga himself and the Rinnegan is not Rinnegan but instead a Byakugan (or an Uchiha screwed a woman somewhere in between the time of Uchiha ancestor-Konoha and that woman's child had some sort of a genetical transformation which lead to a Byakugan, which still would render your theory untrue while the events that I've written about in the first paragraph are all facts which Kishimoto had given us up to the latest chapter) . If that's what you want to believe in just to avoid the fact that Byakugan is in-fact an inferior dojutsu compared to the Sharingan or the Rinnegan - that would be your call.

Also, you (the users here) are giving me an idea that you think that a (clan's) dojutsu absolutely has to be a derivative from the Uchiha (or Senju), which I think to be irrational, illogical and blatantly foolish. And please do note that a clan does not have to be connected to those 2 clans in any way; after all, the Sage and his two sons were not the only people on the planet back in those days (which, if they were, wouldn't make any sense unless people in Naruto Universe multiply through spores).

I'm a fan of neither of clans. However, I find your beliefs lacking a base.
 
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Ok, this is how it goes:
Sage had the Rinnegan. 10-tails had some sort of dojutsu too. Sage screwed a woman. The woman bore him two sons. His elder son got a dojutsu which was a mutation of that of 10-tails' and his father's. That elder son was the ancestor of the Uchiha and his dojutsu was the first version of the Sharingan that we know of (ergo Sharingan=mutation of Uchiha ancestor's dojutsu that formed through generations).

I don't see a Hyuuga anywhere in this story, unless the Sage of Six Paths somehow was a Hyuuga himself and the Rinnegan is not Rinnegan but instead a Byakugan (or an Uchiha screwed a woman somewhere in between the time of Uchiha ancestor-Konoha and that woman's child had some sort of a genetical transformation which lead to a Byakugan, which still would render your theory untrue while the events that I've written about in the first paragraph are all facts which Kishimoto had given us up to the latest chapter) . If that's what you want to believe in just to avoid the fact that Byakugan is in-fact an inferior dojutsu compared to the Sharingan or the Rinnegan - that would be your call.

Also, you (the users here) are giving me an idea that you think that a (clan's) dojutsu absolutely has to be a derivative from the Uchiha (or Senju), which I think to be irrational, illogical and blatantly foolish. And please do note that a clan does not have to be connected to those 2 clans in any way; after all, the Sage and his two sons were not the only people on the planet back in those days (which, if they were, wouldn't make any sense unless people in Naruto Universe multiply through spores).

I'm a fan of neither of clans. However, I find your beliefs lacking a base.
You just gave me the main story, nothing on how the sage got the rinnegan himself, his parents or the importance of uzumaki and hyuga in the story which is what i did.
I backed up everything i said and i read the manga thank you, i don´t need a review on it.U_U
 

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You just gave me the main story, nothing on how the sage got the rinnegan himself, his parents or the importance of uzumaki and hyuga in the story which is what i did.
I backed up everything i said and i read the manga thank you, i don´t need a review on it.U_U

Doesn't seem so, since you are basically telling us the opposition to manga facts.
 

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Doesn't seem so, since you are basically telling us the opposition to manga facts.
Manga never stated that rinnegan>>>sharingan>>byakugan but my theory states Hyuga + Uzumaki = So6p/2 = Senju/Uchiha.
 

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Wow, these kinds of theories really makes you think! It does actually make very much sense too! Thank you!
 

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a babling idiotic child. Sir you are stupid. The Rinnegan appears to those in every generation or so for destruction or for peace. Bullshit theory is bullshit, cut the wet dreams out kid.
 

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a babling idiotic child. Sir you are stupid. The Rinnegan appears to those in every generation or so for destruction or for peace. Bullshit theory is bullshit, cut the wet dreams out kid.

Seriously man, I tried to explain to him how things really are.
Seems someone is deluded.
 

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The hyuga clans style is specifically designed to target the humans chakra points, they could be the first people to find out what chakra was and the sage is the one who came out with it and created ninjutsu.

I mean think about it, when the sage came the world was in chaos and war, ninjutsu didn´t exist so what was there? Yes, taijutsu, the ninjutsu you see currently with the hand signs didn´t exist but hand-to-hand combat back then was called ninjutsu and weapons of course but there wasn´t any fancy stuff we see currently in the narutoverse.
Jiraiya did say that so6p created "modern" ninjutsu so it means there was an old ninjutsu.

Now it´s officially confirmed that the sharingan goes to the rinnegan and here is my theory.
The hyuga clan could see chakra and their tajutsu(old ninjutsu) was advanced and one of them humped an uzumaki and gave birth to so6p with sharingan.
The rinnegan didn´t just come out of nowhere, no..the sage started out with the sharingan, developing it and it was only after he got the rinnegan that he came out, stopped the war, became a legend and so on.

It would explain kakashis famous claim that the sharingan come from the byakugan and it would explain how the sage got the rinnegan since he was the first person to ever do it.
So for people who think if nagatos was given to him and madara got it through the sharingan then how the sage got his....here you have the answer.

The Sage was an Uchiha!! The first Uchiha ever!! A true Uchiha!! Both body(Uzumaki) and eyes(Hyuga)! The current uchiha have only the eyes, they are a half-breed, the senju come from a full-blood uchiha think about it!
Why would you need senju blood to use izanagi, why would you need senju blood to unlock an uchiha technique?!
Because uchiha and senju are 2 sides of the same coin! They complete each other!!

The sage could use a more advanced form of izanagi because he is the perfect uchiha! He has the best uchiha eyes(rinnegan) and the best body(uzumaki), he does a more advanced form of izanagi, the creation of all things!!

Btw, this is why the rinnegan is purple, the byakugan is almost the same color and for the sharingan(red) to change into rinnegan(purple) tells you that it has something to do with the hyuga!!

This is my theory!!! So don´t bitch about it!! If you agree, good for you, disagree then **** you.

Sory dude you are totally wrong and should look into the manga a little bit more instead of making far off claims.

1. Rikudo got his Rinnegan from the JUBI not from the Sharingan.

2. The Jubi had the ultimate eye with both the Rinnegan and Sharingan. How and where did the Sharingan emerge from no one knows the two brother and or the tablet.

3. If anything Rikudo Sennin would have come from the Uzamaki Clan since he was such a Master in Fuinjutsu, which we already know them to be the ultimate masters of. Most likely this is how the Uzamaki are closely related to the Senju. Cause 1. the Uzamaki have great stamina, great healing, great physical energy, and are very compatible with the Rinnegan.

So no you are not right and are just trying to upscale the Uchiha name much more than you should have. All this Senju and Uchiha comes from the two brothers after Rikudo died.

The only entities who really knows what is happening and going on fully is the Bijuus. They are the only ones who can tell the full truth about Rikudo, Uzamaki, Uchiha, and the Senju...

I just wish that Kishi comes up with a couple of explanation chapters in there so we can know something and stop some of these people coming out with outrageous theories..
 

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Sory dude you are totally wrong and should look into the manga a little bit more instead of making far off claims.

1. Rikudo got his Rinnegan from the JUBI not from the Sharingan.

2. The Jubi had the ultimate eye with both the Rinnegan and Sharingan. How and where did the Sharingan emerge from no one knows the two brother and or the tablet.

3. If anything Rikudo Sennin would have come from the Uzamaki Clan since he was such a Master in Fuinjutsu, which we already know them to be the ultimate masters of. Most likely this is how the Uzamaki are closely related to the Senju. Cause 1. the Uzamaki have great stamina, great healing, great physical energy, and are very compatible with the Rinnegan.

So no you are not right and are just trying to upscale the Uchiha name much more than you should have. All this Senju and Uchiha comes from the two brothers after Rikudo died.

The only entities who really knows what is happening and going on fully is the Bijuus. They are the only ones who can tell the full truth about Rikudo, Uzamaki, Uchiha, and the Senju...

I just wish that Kishi comes up with a couple of explanation chapters in there so we can know something and stop some of these people coming out with outrageous theories..

What the **** is wrong with you? How about you actually do the thing that you tell me to and read not only what I'm saying, but also what you're saying. Do words actually go through your head when you type them?

What you're trying to do is rephrase what I've said (except for that statement where you say Rinnegan came from Juubi - which Jiraya obviously told us the exact opposite about).

You are misguided, lad. Fact is - we both read the manga and we both clearly understood what the manga said, while simply saying that I, or anyone else for that matter, need to reread it doesn't make you more enlightened on the subject (or your internet **** any bigger). It's just that one of us takes things for granted and another cannot accept the story that the author gives us (which, by the way, is quite foolish and delusional). The only one of us that's "upscaling" anything wouldn't be me, after all - I see no reason in doing that, since by doing that I wouldn't achieve anything; it's a forum - an internet forum - and we're discuss characters that are not anywhere near real or plausible for any actions or events in our lives. Therefore, your statements are not only irrelevant, but also illogical, per sche.
 

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Sory dude you are totally wrong and should look into the manga a little bit more instead of making far off claims.

1. Rikudo got his Rinnegan from the JUBI not from the Sharingan.

2. The Jubi had the ultimate eye with both the Rinnegan and Sharingan. How and where did the Sharingan emerge from no one knows the two brother and or the tablet.

3. If anything Rikudo Sennin would have come from the Uzamaki Clan since he was such a Master in Fuinjutsu, which we already know them to be the ultimate masters of. Most likely this is how the Uzamaki are closely related to the Senju. Cause 1. the Uzamaki have great stamina, great healing, great physical energy, and are very compatible with the Rinnegan.

So no you are not right and are just trying to upscale the Uchiha name much more than you should have. All this Senju and Uchiha comes from the two brothers after Rikudo died.

The only entities who really knows what is happening and going on fully is the Bijuus. They are the only ones who can tell the full truth about Rikudo, Uzamaki, Uchiha, and the Senju...

I just wish that Kishi comes up with a couple of explanation chapters in there so we can know something and stop some of these people coming out with outrageous theories..
No where in the manga does it say that the sages rinnegan come from the jiuubi and you didn´t say anything that was true, my theory makes the most sense!
 

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a babling idiotic child. Sir you are stupid. The Rinnegan appears to those in every generation or so for destruction or for peace. Bullshit theory is bullshit, cut the wet dreams out kid.
Bullshit post is bullshit, that´s all i have to say.
You still believe in that crap? The rinnegan coming from "heaven" in times of need.
You should shut up and read the manga!
good theory +rep!
Thanks alot!:D
 

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Bullshit post is bullshit, that´s all i have to say.
You still believe in that crap? The rinnegan coming from "heaven" in times of need.
You should shut up and read the manga!

Thanks alot!:D

Although, I've got to say... Rinnegan coming from Heaven? Oh and probably the unicorn guardians came down from a rainbow and gave him those eyes, while the Flying Spaghetti Monster was lurking around, am I right?
 
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