[Theory] Kakashi wasn´t lying, sharingan come from the byakugan and let me tell you why!!!

[grenwood]

dude, the sharingan and byakugan are brothers, if the byakugan its older because its the older brother not the parent. the sharingan is the super cool you cant do anything against me i will mind rape you and destroy you in taijutsu, ninjutsu and genjutsu, super op one hit kill godlike brother. the byakugan is the odd brother that stares at the hyuuga womens huge breast with there xray vision and give people pokes that make them lose their breath. thats it the rinnegan is lame power wise, it makes the user look through womens clothes and love to poke everyone they meet. this is the reality of sharingan vs byakugan so deal with it.

 

[grenwood]

Good theory. (+repped)

seriously? i hate how stupid half the narutobase population is. every stupid thread that comes around gets mulptiple reps. again stupid thread
which was said about something that happened a long time ago in the manga and in present manga clearly holds no weight. and don't just say plus rep that is trolling becaause your comment has nothing what soever to do with the topic, even worse you said nothing. someone tell me how i can -rep this person for brainlessness and the thread creator for brainlessness and lack of originality. i really think i have lost hundreds of brain cells for the countless number of stupid threads that have come into this forum in the last month. people like you are ruining this forum and fanboys are doing moreso.

 

[grenwood]

Wrong, he had the rinnegan before that.

thats a big possibility but its also a big possibility that he was an uzamaki who used uzamaki sealing jutsus, not the rinnegan to seal and defeat juubi.
i really don't know which i believe, i would like to believe the uzamaki one because that would put uzamaki over the uchiha whom i hate outside of shisui, obito, itachi, and i'm curious about izuna, he seemed like an innocent nice person, but if he killed his best friend like most people are saying then i dont like him either. however with the izuna case i believe it was stated in the manga that izuna and madara both unlocked ms through their constant competition which would mean they didnt kill their best friend. before madara showed up i thought sasugay was the most disturbing person i have ever seen in any manga but madaras arrogance and rudeness just blew my mind!

 

[LolaxXx]

And kabuto said that madara proved his hypothesis to be true, he said he awoke them, he didn´t take them or anything and if you need further proof, look at how he can shift from normal sharingan to rinnegan, it´s just the next stage, not transplanted eyes.
He may have had some condition to get those eyes but it doesn´t affect my theory at all and he might have taken senju blood which would only serve to solidiy my theory.
And for the record, you don´t have anything to prove me wrong.
"Sharingan doesn´t evolve into rinnegan" get out of here!! What manga have you been reading?!

If an uchiha implanting senju DNA inside him makes it possible to awaken rinnigan, theeeeeen....it means sharingan doesnt naturally evolve into rinnegan. Its a mix of both. SMH.

 

[Zed1]

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[~Yubel~]

If an uchiha implanting senju DNA inside him makes it possible to awaken rinnigan, theeeeeen....it means sharingan doesnt naturally evolve into rinnegan. Its a mix of both. SMH.

Then it would mean that uchiha + senju = Rinnegan and the sage who was both got rinnegan= Hyuga + Uzumaki.

 

[LolaxXx]

Then it would mean that uchiha + senju = Rinnegan and the sage who was both got rinnegan= Hyuga + Uzumaki.

if you were right, then yes. But since you arent, then no. sorry.:shrug:

 

[~Yubel~]

if you were right, then yes. But since you arent, then no. sorry.:shrug:

You don´t know any better yourself so just let the men handle this.:noc:

 

[Honord Sage]

Why now after centuries has the Rinnegan has come up in an Uchiha and not before? The only difference is an Uchiha with Senju DNA a mixture back to a time when their were not 2 clans but one that of the SO6P. Other wise We would have a number of Uchiha with the Rinnegan before the Uchiha Massacre.

 

[Memoria]

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seriously? i hate how stupid half the narutobase population is. every stupid thread that comes around gets mulptiple reps. again stupid thread
which was said about something that happened a long time ago in the manga and in present manga clearly holds no weight. and don't just say plus rep that is trolling becaause your comment has nothing what soever to do with the topic, even worse you said nothing. someone tell me how i can -rep this person for brainlessness and the thread creator for brainlessness and lack of originality. i really think i have lost hundreds of brain cells for the countless number of stupid threads that have come into this forum in the last month. people like you are ruining this forum and fanboys are doing moreso.

Dude are you jealous? :flaw:

People come up with theories and they put some work in it, other people find that they deserve a +rep for the time they put into it.

So why are you mad? you sure look bad that way, and it's not worth it.. Right??

 

[~Yubel~]

Dude are you jealous? :flaw:

People come up with theories and they put some work in it, other people find that they deserve a +rep for the time they put into it.

So why are you mad? you sure look bad that way, and it's not worth it.. Right??

Thanks.

 

[ElectroG]

no offence.. but its wrong...


.... uzumaki has senju blood.... so if the so6p has uzumaki/senju blood then all his descendants are part uzumaki/senju too.... and so would every single uchiha ....

... and this would make kabuto's, oro's madara's, tobi's plans out the window of trying to combine the two to amke a super power


why owuld they try to combine the two bloods if (according to your theory) they already had it?

 

[Minator93]

Just one question... How did the sage gain EMS...whose MS eyes he stole back then ?

Unless you are saying that MS directly upgrades itself to Rinnegan.

 

[psukkar]

I agree the byugan is important and is the oldest eyes in the series.

Only thing I disagree is about sage is an uchiha business.

The sage's sons represent the impections of the senju and uchiha and hence none of them could do complete the so6p work to achieve peace.

The same way the older son had different eyes from the uchiha the younger son would have diferent powers compared to hasihrama.

The so6p was something that nither his sons could compete with let alone the watered down versons being the uchiha and senju.


The byakugan is going to impact the story in a great way I know it will.

If kishi can pull out snake mode for the hell it he can easily just say the bkugan is the original eye before rinnegan.

 

[~Yubel~]

no offence.. but its wrong...


.... uzumaki has senju blood.... so if the so6p has uzumaki/senju blood then all his descendants are part uzumaki/senju too.... and so would every single uchiha ....

... and this would make kabuto's, oro's madara's, tobi's plans out the window of trying to combine the two to amke a super power


why owuld they try to combine the two bloods if (according to your theory) they already had it?

No, it wouldn´t throw their plans out of the window because the sage had both, the uchihas and senju are relatives but they don´t have each others blood, they complete each other to make the so6p so it doesn´t stop tobi,oro,madara and kabutos plans in the least.

Just one question... How did the sage gain EMS...whose MS eyes he stole back then ?

Unless you are saying that MS directly upgrades itself to Rinnegan.

That i don´t know but since he was both the body and the eyes, i don´t think he had to go through the rough conditions to gain ms and ems, just my take on it, i think he went ms to rinnegan without having to take someone elses eyes, just through training.
Think about why uchiha need senju to do izanagi and think about this and put that situation to how so6p got ms,ems and rinnegan himself.

I agree the byugan is important and is the oldest eyes in the series.

Only thing I disagree is about sage is an uchiha business.

The sage's sons represent the impections of the senju and uchiha and hence none of them could do complete the so6p work to achieve peace.

The same way the older son had different eyes from the uchiha the younger son would have diferent powers compared to hasihrama.

The so6p was something that nither his sons could compete with let alone the watered down versons being the uchiha and senju.


The byakugan is going to impact the story in a great way I know it will.

If kishi can pull out snake mode for the hell it he can easily just say the bkugan is the original eye before rinnegan.

That´s what i´m saying but i didn´t say the sage was uchiha but a "perfect" uchiha, one with both body and eyes, a perfect mix.

 

[griems]

Was gonna +rep till I read the last line.

This is my theory!!! So don´t bitch about it!! If you agree, good for you, disagree then **** you.

that's some nice manners there kid, pathetic...

 

[~Yubel~]

Was gonna +rep till I read the last line.

This is my theory!!! So don´t bitch about it!! If you agree, good for you, disagree then **** you.

that's some nice manners there kid, pathetic...

Yeah, it is my theory and why´re you so butthurt? Are you one of those that disagreed perhaps and felt offended when i said that?

 

[Rot]

Thats a pretty good theory..

I was sitting here thinking of anything to slam it to the dust but no I couldn't find shit..

Hyuuga is the oldest eyes in the series

And Uzumaki were taught sealing techniques by the Sage so they were around before the Senju..as Senju is from So6P son..


You sir may be correct..

Uzumaki were around as the Sage was an adult so surely they were established already, meaning a large amount of them running around

Hyuuga is the oldest eyes in the series, so they were around

It might also explain why the Hyuuga have 2 branches, 1 being "Main" and the others "Slaves", the slave branch are probably the descendants of the Hyuuga who ran away and bred out of the clan..

Its already been said Hyuuga and Uchiha are connected in the past (so6p father/mother Hyuuga)
and Senju/Uzumaki are connected in the past(so6p mother/father)

It started with a Hyuuga and Uzumaki doing the hanky panky, out comes a god..God breeds with..someone? and out comes two demi-god clans..

So..Hyuuga, Senju, Uchiha and Uzumaki are all related to each other through the So6P..

However I don't think So6P had sharingan, he would of had to get EMS and we don't know if he had a sibling to take the eyes from..theres no way MS goes directly to Rinnegan, would go blind before then, also Uzumaki village was the whirlpool village, might have something to do with the rinnegans pattern, even tho its not whirly, the eldest son's was tho..

You good sir, get +rep for your solid theory

 

[~Yubel~]

Thats a pretty good theory..

I was sitting here thinking of anything to slam it to the dust but no I couldn't find shit..

Hyuuga is the oldest eyes in the series

And Uzumaki were taught sealing techniques by the Sage so they were around before the Senju..as Senju is from So6P son..


You sir may be correct..

Uzumaki were around as the Sage was an adult so surely they were established already, meaning a large amount of them running around

Hyuuga is the oldest eyes in the series, so they were around

It might also explain why the Hyuuga have 2 branches, 1 being "Main" and the others "Slaves", the slave branch are probably the descendants of the Hyuuga who ran away and bred out of the clan..

Its already been said Hyuuga and Uchiha are connected in the past (so6p father/mother Hyuuga)
and Senju/Uzumaki are connected in the past(so6p mother/father)

It started with a Hyuuga and Uzumaki doing the hanky panky, out comes a god..God breeds with..someone? and out comes two demi-god clans..

So..Hyuuga, Senju, Uchiha and Uzumaki are all related to each other through the So6P..

However I don't think So6P had sharingan, he would of had to get EMS and we don't know if he had a sibling to take the eyes from..theres no way MS goes directly to Rinnegan, would go blind before then, also Uzumaki village was the whirlpool village, might have something to do with the rinnegans pattern, even tho its not whirly, the eldest son's was tho..

You good sir, get +rep for your solid theory

Have the thought ever occured to you that the sharingan stages(ms,ems) are more like sealing techniques?
The sage taught sealing techniques after sealing the jiuubi within himself and i think uzumaki were the first clan he taught it to, also take into account how the hyuuga have a side-branch, i think this may have been a direct action toward the hyuuga who ran away and it got lost in history and became a tradition.
I think that´s why they had two branches and just like how the cursed seal jutsu on the hyuga makes them birds in a cage, the uchihas, since they´re IMO decendants of the hyuga are born with their full powers sealed, it´s in their blood.
The sharingan stages being like a sealing technique would explain that the uzumaki(sealing experts) and hyuga(powerful eyes).
I also think that the trademark red-hair of the uzumaki after pairing with a hyuga became the red color that is the sharingan instead.

I think each uchiha are born with their true eye-power sealed away and they have to go through pain in order to break that seal.

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[Rot]

I don't think you read my post correctly..I pretty much agreed on everything you said, I don't know why you are acting like I am trying to refute it..I agreed..

The only thing I do not agree with is so6p having Sharingan, we don't know if he had a sibling to gain EMS from..as I said in my post MS->Rinnegan shouldn't be possible, you would go blind before that ever happened..now if its revealed later on the Sage did have a sibling then I would consider the possibility of him having sharingan before Rinnegan..

But I can't see MS->Rinnegan considering the blind effect of MS, we don't even know how it exactly works yet, we know Madara gained EMS then Senju DNA and unlocked Rinnegan shortly before he died..but how long did he have to wait after gaining the DNA of Senju? What event "unlocked" it shortly before his death?

Sharingan->MS->EMS(sibling required)->Rinnegan(senju dna)

I just can't see MS->Rinnegan, but as I said if its revealed so6p had a brother or sister then I would be able to accept he had sharingan before rinnegan

Also the elder son's eyes, they are very similar to rinnegan, the only difference is Rinnegan is full circles while Elder Son's was whirly..but it shows that the trait can be passed down...it gets weaker but it can be passed through genetics, so I can only assume one can be born with it