[Theory] Kakashi wasn´t lying, sharingan come from the byakugan and let me tell you why!!!

[soulreaper11]

know what i think mess up storyline because every week a new chapter comes out and we can all agree that from the pressure things are goin to be strange.I think it was a change in the writers mind of how he wanted the story to go.

 

[dhaoracle]

What the **** is wrong with you? How about you actually do the thing that you tell me to and read not only what I'm saying, but also what you're saying. Do words actually go through your head when you type them?

What you're trying to do is rephrase what I've said (except for that statement where you say Rinnegan came from Juubi - which Jiraya obviously told us the exact opposite about).

You are misguided, lad. Fact is - we both read the manga and we both clearly understood what the manga said, while simply saying that I, or anyone else for that matter, need to reread it doesn't make you more enlightened on the subject (or your internet **** any bigger). It's just that one of us takes things for granted and another cannot accept the story that the author gives us (which, by the way, is quite foolish and delusional). The only one of us that's "upscaling" anything wouldn't be me, after all - I see no reason in doing that, since by doing that I wouldn't achieve anything; it's a forum - an internet forum - and we're discuss characters that are not anywhere near real or plausible for any actions or events in our lives. Therefore, your statements are not only irrelevant, but also illogical, per sche.

I didn't read what you said or even care now for that matter. Trying to go against how I am typing and how I AM saying is not going to make what the creator of this site posted any more true..

We all see that the JUBI had the Rinnegan/Sharingan meaning that these powerful dojutsus as well as the chakra so that Rikudo could accomplish a lot of the powerful ninjutsu techniques. Come on use common sense most if not all of the Jinchuriki have acquired some kind of powers from their Biju, all of them.

Based on that fact it would be possible even fact that Rikudo got his Rinnegan from the Jubi based on how the JUBI has the exact same eyes. If Rikudo had those eyes before he would have been been modernied ninjutsu to the way it is now because with the Rinnegan he has unlimited possibilities to do anything he wants.

And irrrelevant what you are here debating with me but it is irrelevant. Come on dude are you serious.

 

[dhaoracle]

No where in the manga does it say that the sages rinnegan come from the jiuubi and you didn´t say anything that was true, my theory makes the most sense!

No it doesn't but if you use common sense it would come together as true. I can't say it is definintely true but it sounds a lot better than saying that Rikudo was an Uchiha when he had two sons which everyone says started both clans.

Every Jinchuriki has gained some kind of power or attribute from their Biju, all. So what is to say that Rikudo doesn't gain the eyes from the Biju with the same eyes??

Dude use your sense and not your fanboyism to bring some untold stupid legend to the Uchiha. Yea they are cool and have many cool and powerful legends but they are not that cool dude.

It is even said in the Manga that you have to have the Rinnegan to fully decipher and read Rikudo's tabler not Sharingan which he never had.

 

[Holy Cross]

The hyuga clans style is specifically designed to target the humans chakra points, they could be the first people to find out what chakra was and the sage is the one who came out with it and created ninjutsu.

I mean think about it, when the sage came the world was in chaos and war, ninjutsu didn´t exist so what was there? Yes, taijutsu, the ninjutsu you see currently with the hand signs didn´t exist but hand-to-hand combat back then was called ninjutsu and weapons of course but there wasn´t any fancy stuff we see currently in the narutoverse.
Jiraiya did say that so6p created "modern" ninjutsu so it means there was an old ninjutsu.

Now it´s officially confirmed that the sharingan goes to the rinnegan and here is my theory.
The hyuga clan could see chakra and their tajutsu(old ninjutsu) was advanced and one of them humped an uzumaki and gave birth to so6p with sharingan.
The rinnegan didn´t just come out of nowhere, no..the sage started out with the sharingan, developing it and it was only after he got the rinnegan that he came out, stopped the war, became a legend and so on.

It would explain kakashis famous claim that the sharingan come from the byakugan and it would explain how the sage got the rinnegan since he was the first person to ever do it.
So for people who think if nagatos was given to him and madara got it through the sharingan then how the sage got his....here you have the answer.

The Sage was an Uchiha!! The first Uchiha ever!! A true Uchiha!! Both body(Uzumaki) and eyes(Hyuga)! The current uchiha have only the eyes, they are a half-breed, the senju come from a full-blood uchiha think about it!
Why would you need senju blood to use izanagi, why would you need senju blood to unlock an uchiha technique?!
Because uchiha and senju are 2 sides of the same coin! They complete each other!!

The sage could use a more advanced form of izanagi because he is the perfect uchiha! He has the best uchiha eyes(rinnegan) and the best body(uzumaki), he does a more advanced form of izanagi, the creation of all things!!

Btw, this is why the rinnegan is purple, the byakugan is almost the same color and for the sharingan(red) to change into rinnegan(purple) tells you that it has something to do with the hyuga!!

This is my theory!!! So don´t bitch about it!! If you agree, good for you, disagree then **** you.

To me that makes perfect sense. +REP

Same here +rep

 

[~Yubel~]

No it doesn't but if you use common sense it would come together as true. I can't say it is definintely true but it sounds a lot better than saying that Rikudo was an Uchiha when he had two sons which everyone says started both clans.

Every Jinchuriki has gained some kind of power or attribute from their Biju, all. So what is to say that Rikudo doesn't gain the eyes from the Biju with the same eyes??

Dude use your sense and not your fanboyism to bring some untold stupid legend to the Uchiha. Yea they are cool and have many cool and powerful legends but they are not that cool dude.

It is even said in the Manga that you have to have the Rinnegan to fully decipher and read Rikudo's tabler not Sharingan which he never had.

The Sage was an uchiha IMO, you can disagree but it´s up to you.
Btw, you haven´t said anything about all the other things in my post.

 

[zeezzay]

okay i really like ur theory. is true after reading this i kinda think sage himself is half hyuga and uzumaki. uzumaki were were known for their sealing and hyuga came before the uchiha defintely i dont where somewhere in theory it stated that byukgan were orginal doujust while the shragain and renningan wasnt. is relly weird how the uchiha need senju dna to awaken renningan. kinda how hyuga need uzumaki dna to awaken the rennegan maybe thats why sage had renngan because his parents were hyu and uzu. but still have question dude
1. when you read the elder son wikki it stated byukagan and shargan came elder son from meaning hyuga and uchiha came from him.
2. i thought the there was no clan before the sage.
this is my theory. very differnt to your but dont think i am bashing your i think your is very interesting the fact sage was half hyuga and uzumaki.
1. i think the hyuga came from elder son first. they but cursed mark on their younger sibilling because they were jealous how the sage gave all his wealth to the younger brother. remember in the manga how the sage was dying and asked his two son the anwer to peace the younger son gave him the right answer. and the older son lost is throne to the younger son. so this is the reason in the hyuga clan cursed mark is put on the younger son so he can never become the succeror. hyuga clan were so strict that neji dad who would been only two minute younger the hinata dad was placed in the branch family. i think hyuga have this fear of older and younger brother thing.
2. the uchiha came from the hyuga after many generation. in the manga it was stated that the uchiha were decendant of the elder son. it never ssaid the elder son himself was uchihia.i think the uchiha came from the branch family of hyuga. because they have more hatered and bitterness then hyuga clan just like how the branch family have more haterd against the main family. the reason i say this is because if the uchiha came from the elder son directly wouldnt they have started the placing the cursed mark on their younger brother the thing is they didnt because they are decendant from the branch hyuga family they know what it feels like to be degraded. thats why sasuke or izuna have no curse mark.
3.all of you prob wonderin why the uchihia nothing aginst the hyuga. this my thinkin the uchiha dont blame the hyuga for what they did they know the hyuga started but curse mark on their younger son because of sage younger son suceeding . here the the uchiha are blaming the younger son if he had not taken the throne none of this would have happen.
4. remember when tobi said cursed of hatered vs will of fire uchihia vs senju. now why are the uchiha calling it cursed of hatered for all the solgan they could choose they choose currsed of hatered. remember how neji and branch family had hatered against the cursed mark. so the uchiha have this cursed of hatered and they are fighting senju who have the will of fire. techinally the uhiha are blaming the younger son sage and his anancestors for the cused mark.
5. the uzumaki came first from the younger brother then the senju came from the uzumaki. the time time when hyuga and uzumaki came there was no leaf village estabiled.
I think uzumki were feared and hated by the hyugas. so the hyuga attacked and killed the uzumaki who were defeated and flee to hidden eddie. hyuga got their land and wealth back and forgotten about the uzumaki but after many years later i mean many senju came back to fight the hyuga for what was their rightfully but they were faced of with new clan with more hatered then hyuga they were the uchiha that came from the branch family. so it was senju vs uchiha. after many time they decided to share this land establised konaha.
4. i think sasuke represents hyuga and uchiha.
naruto represents senju and uzumaki.
sasuke will fight naruto because he will blame naruto ancenstoers for the cursed mark and naruto will say his ancentor truely desereved the leader ship because they belive love is the answer to peace tobi stated how all the ledership to this day belong to senju meaning all the hokage had some relation to the senju and is even weird the senju married to uzumaki 1st and 4th why didnt any of the senju or uzumaki marry the hyuga or uchiha because i am thinkin it wasnt allowed just who in the real world people long ago couldnt marry different race how it was dihonour to marry outside ur culture but know this has change many different race from different culture marry each other but even stil ltoday there racism.
5. we knew hinata lost her throne to her younger sister because she wasnt powerful enough. is really weird how the elder son stated power was true peace. also itatchi the heir to uchiha we discover later on was gentle just like hinata kinda and sasuke his younger brother 5 years difference who is much more sinister wants to destroy konah. itachi is like hinata in sense and sasuke is like hanabi. their is five difference between both sibiling. i dont think hinata and hanabi are mental like itatchi and sasuke maybe cause their female. is was weird how hanabi was missing with her father durning pain arc. i am also thinkin the elders in the hyuga are evil they dont like how till this day the blood of younger son still the leadership of land that was right fully their through royal bloodline meanig elder son gets everything kinda stupid.they plannig somethin evil too. but i think they hate uzumakis more then senju just how uchiha hate senju. dont you think is really weird how naruto best friend is from the uchiha clan and how the girl that loves him is from the hyuga clan now naruto dont love hinata but he cares for her alot he cheered for her th emost when she fought neji. is weird how naruto who is uzumaki and maybe even half senju cause tobi said naruto was like the 1st and also there are many theory stating 2nd hokage is granfather of the 4th hokage 2nd was senju. i can defeintly tell you naruto has some senju blood. so is really weird how the naruto said to neji he going to change the hyuga way when he beomes hokage. i think after the war he will become hokage and fight sasuke the person representing the cursed of hatered when he defeats sasuke he will end this cursed mark think for sure. i think hinata sasuke and neji are goig to die either in the war or after is weird how neji said nothin in chp 573 and hinata said kinda of sad thing because i think sasuke will meet the person who knows everyting then he will discover he needs hyuga eyes from family he will attack hinata and neji will protect her or vise versa any way both will die naruto will discover it out he going to end all this family feud by killing sasuke.

this my theory. but ur theory is great. iam just gettin pissed i want mk to tell the story about sage and his sons. this tobi fight is crab i only want to know who tobi is thats all. naruto is gettin annyoing.