[Theory] Kakashi wasn´t lying, sharingan come from the byakugan and let me tell you why!!!

[~Yubel~]

I dont agree with this theory simply because of the Sage's sons.

Its already been stated said that the Uchiha's ancestory came from the elder son while as the Senju came from the younger son. So claiming that the Sage was a true Uchiha is pointless :shrug: . The Sage himself was entirely different, not the other way round.

Also the elder son's eyes were similar to the Rinnegan but not entirely.

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Now I believe that elder son's eyes were mutated down the generations to form the Sharingan and the Byakugan.


As for the requirements to use Izanagi, an Uchiha technique, its simply because its an inferior version of Creation of All things because the Sage had both Uchiha and Senju DNA as one.

Untill proven wrong, i will go with my own theory, there is no other reason to how the sage could´ve gotten the rinnegan then what i´ve explained.

 

[Out Of Ctrl]

Untill proven wrong, i will go with my own theory, there is no other reason to how the sage could´ve gotten the rinnegan then what i´ve explained.

Yes it still leaves that question of how did the Sage acquired the Rinnegan.

 

[cozolinofly]

The hyuga clans style is specifically designed to target the humans chakra points, they could be the first people to find out what chakra was and the sage is the one who came out with it and created ninjutsu.

I mean think about it, when the sage came the world was in chaos and war, ninjutsu didn´t exist so what was there? Yes, taijutsu, the ninjutsu you see currently with the hand signs didn´t exist but hand-to-hand combat back then was called ninjutsu and weapons of course but there wasn´t any fancy stuff we see currently in the narutoverse.
Jiraiya did say that so6p created "modern" ninjutsu so it means there was an old ninjutsu.

Now it´s officially confirmed that the sharingan goes to the rinnegan and here is my theory.
The hyuga clan could see chakra and their tajutsu(old ninjutsu) was advanced and one of them humped an uzumaki and gave birth to so6p with sharingan.
The rinnegan didn´t just come out of nowhere, no..the sage started out with the sharingan, developing it and it was only after he got the rinnegan that he came out, stopped the war, became a legend and so on.

It would explain kakashis famous claim that the sharingan come from the byakugan and it would explain how the sage got the rinnegan since he was the first person to ever do it.
So for people who think if nagatos was given to him and madara got it through the sharingan then how the sage got his....here you have the answer.

The Sage was an Uchiha!! The first Uchiha ever!! A true Uchiha!! Both body(Uzumaki) and eyes(Hyuga)! The current uchiha have only the eyes, they are a half-breed, the senju come from a full-blood uchiha think about it!
Why would you need senju blood to use izanagi, why would you need senju blood to unlock an uchiha technique?!
Because uchiha and senju are 2 sides of the same coin! They complete each other!!

The sage could use a more advanced form of izanagi because he is the perfect uchiha! He has the best uchiha eyes(rinnegan) and the best body(uzumaki), he does a more advanced form of izanagi, the creation of all things!!

Btw, this is why the rinnegan is purple, the byakugan is almost the same color and for the sharingan(red) to change into rinnegan(purple) tells you that it has something to do with the hyuga!!

This is my theory!!! So don´t bitch about it!! If you agree, good for you, disagree then **** you.

you say that uchiha and senju are one AND YET you say they both will form the PERFECT UCHIHA? ...maybe they form the Perfect Senju .. //Pathetic

 

[Easyfathom]

Interesting to say the least

 

[SasukexNeji]

I was really hoping Kishi wouldn't forget about the Hyuga clan. I wanted to start a thread about them yesterday, but didn't know where to go with it. I'm really glad the OP made this thread. Kudos man! However you guys give points here, I'm saying "pay the man" lol or at least give him some rep points, etc. Also, I believe either Tobi will enlighten the readers about the Hyuga (his third hole has a purpose!!!) or we will find out about it from...someone...AFTER THE TIMESKIP!

 

[Hawker]

Sorry man but Kakashi said it the other way around.

 

[~Yubel~]

you say that uchiha and senju are one AND YET you say they both will form the PERFECT UCHIHA? ...maybe they form the Perfect Senju .. //Pathetic

Senjus don´t have sharingan, that´s why.
I said he was the perfect uchiha because uchihas sharingan evolve untill it reaches rinnegan and thinking of how the sharingan comes from the byakugan and thinking of how you need senju blood to gain rinnegan, this would make the most sense, that he´s a perfect uchiha, it would answer many questions at once.
Senjus don´t matter here, they´re just a another type of Uzumakis, not the other way around, don´t think that uzumakis are just another type of senjus just because the senjus are stronger, that´s not the case, the senju come from the uzumaki which means they are more advanced since they come from the sage.

 

[kilty]

My only question then is: why don't you see Hyugas developing sharingans?

 

[~Yubel~]

My only question then is: why don't you see Hyugas developing sharingans?

Cuz uzumakis are almost extinct and there are no hyugas currently humping people outside of the clan, they keep it within the family and this was probably a leak, someone who ran from the clan, said screw the rules and humped an uzumaki, most probably hinata and narutos child will be uchiha with sharingan.
Uzumaki are relatives to senju and are distant relatives to the uchiha which both come from hyuga and uzumaki.
It makes perfect sense, it takes away the mystery of dojutsu, explain how so6p got rinnegan while following kishis new rule that sharingan can go to rinnegan all while confirming what kakashi said which was thrown aside when tobi talked about the two sons and when madara(uchiha) came out with rinnegan.
All of that gets answered at once.

 

[LolaxXx]

Sharingan does not evolve into a rinnigan, thats just a hypothesis. But truthfully, Madara has never said how he really awakened the Rinnegan. Sooo...as soon as I got to that I already knew the rest of your documentry was wrong.

 

[~Yubel~]

Sharingan does not evolve into a rinnigan, thats just a hypothesis. But truthfully, Madara has never said how he really awakened the Rinnegan. Sooo...as soon as I got to that I already knew the rest of your documentry was wrong.

And kabuto said that madara proved his hypothesis to be true, he said he awoke them, he didn´t take them or anything and if you need further proof, look at how he can shift from normal sharingan to rinnegan, it´s just the next stage, not transplanted eyes.
He may have had some condition to get those eyes but it doesn´t affect my theory at all and he might have taken senju blood which would only serve to solidiy my theory.
And for the record, you don´t have anything to prove me wrong.
"Sharingan doesn´t evolve into rinnegan" get out of here!! What manga have you been reading?!

 

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possible

 

[apple pie of doom]

Its funny how some people somehow thing the sage was born with the rinnegan.
He got the rinnegan after absorbing the juubi.

 

[Honord Sage]

That episode were Kakashi explain the Byakugan and Sharigan was before the Rinnegan was made to be a fact and not a story of legend the SO6P had become just a story to be told, now we know Their was a SO6P for a fact and the Rinnegan is a fact,so Kishi now needs to show the true relationship of the Rinnegan to both the Byakugan and the Sharigan and were the split occured over time

 

[-Jiraiya-]

Kakashi said both are parallel and passed down in konoha. Not that sharingan came from byakugan,

 

[Memoria]

Good theory. (+repped)

 

[NarutoKage2]

Ok first of all Kakashi said the origins of the Uchiha clan are said to lie with the Hyuuga:

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But i think his knowledge was'nt as great as Tobi who told us that the origin of the Uchiha actually came from the SO6P. What Kakashi said is similar to what you're trying to say but he was just pointing out what others have said, he did'nt know it for a fact. Tobi meanwhile claimed his statement with total certainty and facts prove Tobi was right. Edo Madara showed his EMS, which then became a rinnegan(the eyes of the Sage) thus proving Tobi's claim that the Uchiha clan came from the Elder son who inherited the eyes of the Sage.
If there is ever a byakuugan user shown who can unlock the sharingan then your theory holds weight but until then its merely speculation.

 

[GofOfNothing]

nice thoughts + rep but most likely not
i think kishi just changed his mind

I dont agree with this theory simply because of the Sage's sons.

Its already been stated said that the Uchiha's ancestory came from the elder son while as the Senju came from the younger son. So claiming that the Sage was a true Uchiha is pointless :shrug: . The Sage himself was entirely different, not the other way round.

Also the elder son's eyes were similar to the Rinnegan but not entirely.

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Now I believe that elder son's eyes were mutated down the generations to form the Sharingan and the Byakugan.


As for the requirements to use Izanagi, an Uchiha technique, its simply because its an inferior version of Creation of All things because the Sage had both Uchiha and Senju DNA as one.

this

 

[Honord Sage]

It would be good if Kishi release a list of the allies of the Senju and Uchiha so as to see were the Huga clan was allied to prior to the founding of the village. Were the Huga vassals of the Uchiha or allies of the Senju?

 

[~Yubel~]

Its funny how some people somehow thing the sage was born with the rinnegan.
He got the rinnegan after absorbing the juubi.

Wrong, he had the rinnegan before that.