Kakashi vs Jiraiya

[Draegod]

Only way I see Jiraiya winning is if he enters SM. 3T Kakashi can copy any of Jiraiyas elemental jutsu, and with superior handseal speed, Jiraiya gets the same treatment Zabuza did. Summonings are countered via sharingan genjutsu... Yeah, don't see any edge Jiraiya, while in base, has over Sharingan Kakashi.

Chakra and stamina comes into play when copying Jutsu. Does he have even half the amount of chakra base jman has? No! Lol can he spam large chakra taxing attacks equally non stop? No! Bunta alone literally solos kakashi, and that's one summon in base, I don't even want to mention his other options. Haha

 

[RustledJimmies]

Considering Jiraiya has no hype or logic reasoning to be 1/1000th of Kakashi's power, and Raikiri is far above anything Jiraiya has as feats show, Kakashi without Sharingan beats him comfortably. Let alone 3T Kakashi, who not even Rikudo Naruto or Rinnegan Sasuke could beat.

Kakashi low diff.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Chakra and stamina comes into play when copying Jutsu. Does he have even half the amount of chakra base jman has? No! Lol can he spam large chakra taxing attacks equally non stop? No! Bunta alone literally solos kakashi, and that's one summon in base, I don't even want to mention his other options. Haha

With his war-arc stamina buff, Kakashi clearly has more then half of Jiraiyas base chakra. And I mean... If Jiraiya wants to start spamming elemental jutsu for some odd reason, then Kakashi reads him from a mile away and evades them rather easily. Bunta get's solo'd comfortabably, don't be ridiculous.

 

[Draegod]

With his war-arc stamina buff, Kakashi clearly has more then half of Jiraiyas base chakra. And I mean... If Jiraiya wants to start spamming elemental jutsu for some odd reason, then Kakashi reads him from a mile away and evades them rather easily. Bunta get's solo'd comfortabably, don't be ridiculous.

Even after the kurama multiple power ups and constant healing I'm going to act as though never happen like most the user in this particular site, what does he have to put bunta down? Ima act as though jman doesn't have other summons, but please answer that question first.

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

Even after the kurama multiple power ups and constant healing I'm going to act as though never happen like most the user in this particular site, what does he have to put bunta down? Ima act as though jman doesn't have other summons, but please answer that question first.

I guess Kakashi could copy Swamp of the Underworld if Jiraiya uses it. Using the Sharingan genjutsu is another option.

 

[Beans2]

Even after the kurama multiple power ups and constant healing I'm going to act as though never happen like most the user in this particular site, what does he have to put bunta down? Ima act as though jman doesn't have other summons, but please answer that question first.

Controlling it w sharingan genjutsu or lightning cable would work.
If Kakashi wants to win this battle a better idea would be to ignore Gamabunta and go straight for Jiraiya before he enters SM

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Even after the kurama multiple power ups and constant healing I'm going to act as though never happen like most the user in this particular site, what does he have to put bunta down? Ima act as though jman doesn't have other summons, but please answer that question first.

During the Pein invasion arc, after using a Kage Bunshin and few other elemental ninjutsu; Kakashi was only good for 2 small Kamui's before dying from chakra depletion. In the war-arc while Kakashi, Gai, and Naruto were combating Tobi and the Mazou; Kakashi used 1 or 2 Kage Bunshins, a few elemental ninjutsu, and far exceeded his previous Kamui limit even before he received any chakra from Kurama. So you can act as you want. As I already stated, sharingan genjutsu, as well as what Psycho Maid and Beansandcornbread said.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

During the Pein invasion arc, after using a Kage Bunshin and few other elemental ninjutsu; Kakashi was only good for 2 small Kamui's before dying from chakra depletion. In the war-arc while Kakashi, Gai, and Naruto were combating Tobi and the Mazou; Kakashi used 1 or 2 Kage Bunshins, a few elemental ninjutsu, and far exceeded his previous Kamui limit even before he received any chakra from Kurama. So you can act as you want. As I already stated, sharingan genjutsu, as well as what Psycho Maid and Beansandcornbread said.

5 kamui's
8 raikiri's
2 shadow clones.
1 Doton wall.
And some other stuff, on top of being one of the only few ppl to legitimately fight for 3 days.

 

[Draegod]

Controlling it w sharingan genjutsu or lightning cable would work.
If Kakashi wants to win this battle a better idea would be to ignore Gamabunta and go straight for Jiraiya before he enters SM

lol Implying Kakshi even knows how to control giant Summons with his Sharingan, let alone keep control of giant summons perfectly while fighting is a joke. Not to mention Jma can easily break the genjutsu control with simple Kai release makes it that much easier and funnier


Then how could he ignor Bunta and out class his aresenal and expect Jman to roll over? Do any of you not hear yourself s?.

During the Pein invasion arc, after using a Kage Bunshin and few other elemental ninjutsu; Kakashi was only good for 2 small Kamui's before dying from chakra depletion. In the war-arc while Kakashi, Gai, and Naruto were combating Tobi and the Mazou; Kakashi used 1 or 2 Kage Bunshins, a few elemental ninjutsu, and far exceeded his previous Kamui limit even before he received any chakra from Kurama. So you can act as you want. As I already stated, sharingan genjutsu, as well as what Psycho Maid and Beansandcornbread said.

Shanringan Genjutsu on a Boss summon of that level is a joke, not to mention he has never used one on a summon as well as the fact Jman or other Toads can simply dispel the Genjtsu with Kai release. He would never have enough chakra to even mimic the size required, let alone for multiple toads. Jman's Chakra is light years above Kakshi in base it isn't even funny. Please stop acting as though he perfectly tame a Giant summon of Boss toads status when even Sasuke could only Hold Manda for a few minutes with CS enhancements and Oru chakra.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Shanringan Genjutsu on a Boss summon of that level is a joke, not to mention he has never used one on a summon as well as the fact Jman or other Toads can simply dispel the Genjtsu with Kai release. He would never have enough chakra to even mimic the size required, let alone for multiple toads. Jman's Chakra is light years above Kakshi in base it isn't even funny. Please stop acting as though he perfectly tame a Giant summon of Boss toads status when even Sasuke could only Hold Manda for a few minutes with CS enhancements and Oru chakra.

Someone never showcasing something in the manga doesn't equate to their incapability in doing so, toss that one out the window. Jiraiya, nor any of his boss summons are sensors. So they wouldn't know Gamabunta or any other boss summoning is placed under genjutsu until it's too late or Kakashi swiftly imflicts lethal damage on one of them with Raikiri or Raikiri chain. Lmao, proof that Sasuke could only hold Manda for minutes time at maximum while supposedly using his CS enhanced Oro chakra? Regardless, Sasuke was at his limit and placed Manda under genjutsu like it was nothing. Kakashi was stalemating with Obito in genjutsu, who once controlled a perfect Jin. Nothing here points towards Kakashi not being able to place a boss summon under genjutsu.

 

[Beans2]

Someone never showcasing something in the manga doesn't equate to their incapability in doing so, toss that one out the window. Jiraiya, nor any of his boss summons are sensors. So they wouldn't know Gamabunta or any other boss summoning is placed under genjutsu until it's too late or Kakashi swiftly imflicts lethal damage on one of them with Raikiri or Raikiri chain. Lmao, proof that Sasuke could only hold Manda for minutes time at maximum while supposedly using his CS enhanced Oro chakra? Regardless, Sasuke was at his limit and placed Manda under genjutsu like it was nothing. Kakashi was stalemating with Obito in genjutsu, who once controlled a perfect Jin. Nothing here points towards Kakashi not being able to place a boss summon under genjutsu.

Kakashi =/= Sasuke tho. IIRC Kakashi's best genjutsu feat is seeing through Obito's genjutsu and defeating 2 anbus with a glance. Pretty sure he can't control boss-level toad summons, doubtful he can do it for more than a couple seconds. Sasuke has showcased much higher level genjutsu VS Orochimaru and Itachi. And it would take more than a couple seconds for Kakashi to kill Gamabunta.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Kakashi =/= Sasuke tho. IIRC Kakashi's best genjutsu feat is seeing through Obito's genjutsu and defeating 2 anbus with a glance. Pretty sure he can't control boss-level toad summons, doubtful he can do it for more than a couple seconds. Sasuke has showcased much higher level genjutsu VS Orochimaru and Itachi. And it would take more than a couple seconds for Kakashi to kill Gamabunta.

You're right. Kakashi>Sasuke at that current time in sharingan genjutsu prowess. Kakashi's feat of not only seeing through the genjutsu of a man that could control perfect Jins, but matching and countering back with

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genjutsu is a far better feat then anything Sasuke has shown with his sharingan. Slicing off a single limb is all Kakashi needs to do to Gamabunta; he doesn't need to necessarily kill him.

 

[Beans2]

You're right. Kakashi>Sasuke at that current time in sharingan genjutsu prowess. Kakashi's feat of not only seeing through the genjutsu of a man that could control perfect Jins, but matching and countering back with

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genjutsu is a far better feat then anything Sasuke has shown with his sharingan. Slicing off a single limb is all Kakashi needs to do to Gamabunta; he doesn't need to necessarily kill him.

1. Yagura wasn't a perfect jinchuuriki.
2. Kakashi's genjutsu was totally ineffective against Obito.

Sasuke breaking out of Tsukuyomi is a better genjutsu feat than anything Kakashi has done. And he completely overpowered Orochimaru in his own dimension with curse mark/genjutsu combo, again a better feat than anything Kakashi has done with genjutsu.

 

[sharingan67]

Do you hate Jiraiya so hard to make such match ?

Kakashi win both low diff.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

1. Yagura wasn't a perfect jinchuuriki.
2. Kakashi's genjutsu was totally ineffective against Obito.

Sasuke breaking out of Tsukuyomi is a better genjutsu feat than anything Kakashi has done. And he completely overpowered Orochimaru in his own dimension with curse mark/genjutsu combo, again a better feat than anything Kakashi has done.

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2. As was Obito's in front of Kakashi.

Orochimaru brushed off Sasuke's genjutsu alone like it was nothing, so that one only works against you. And he only broke out of Tsukiyomi because he shares the same blood as Itachi. Keep attempting to dismiss the fact that Kakashi stalemated with the man capable of controlling a perfect Jin in genjutsu. Doesn't matter to me. Sasuke's genjutsu feats pale in comparison.

 

[Beans2]

1. Check your sources.

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2. As was Obito's in front of Kakashi.

Orochimaru brushed off Sasuke's genjutsu alone like it was nothing, so that one only works against you. And he only broke out of Tsukiyomi because he shares the same blood as Itachi. Keep attempting to dismiss the fact that Kakashi stalemated with the man capable of controlling a perfect Jin in genjutsu. Doesn't matter to me. Sasuke's genjutsu feats pale in comparison.

Lol...2015 and people still think Yagura was a perfect jin in the sense that Bee and Naruto are?

1. Danzo didn't state that Yagura was a perfect jinchuuriki. He said he had control over a bijuu. Madara and Hashirama weren't perfect jins, but he compared them to Yagura. An actual perfect jinchuuriki can't be controlled with genjutsu because the bijuu inside him would break him out of it. There's no such thing as a genjutsu that's so ultra-powerful it defies logic.

2. Seeing through an opponent's genjutsu does not mean you are as good as they are at casting it.

Sasuke>Kakashi in genjutsu.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Kakashi gets raped in scene 1.

One question is kamui unrestricted in scene 2? If so Kakashi snipes. ​

 

[makosheva7]

Kakashi wins scenario 1 high diff, second one low diff.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Lol...2015 and people still think Yagura was a perfect jin in the sense that Bee and Naruto are?

1. Danzo didn't state that Yagura was a perfect jinchuuriki. He said he had control over a bijuu. Madara and Hashirama weren't perfect jins, but he compared them to Yagura. An actual perfect jinchuuriki can't be controlled with genjutsu because the bijuu inside him would break him out of it. There's no such thing as a genjutsu that's so ultra-powerful it defies logic.

2. Seeing through an opponent's genjutsu does not mean you are as good as they are at casting it.

Sasuke>Kakashi in genjutsu.

Lol... Danzo specifically said Yagura had true control over his Biju, and put him in the same sentence as Bee; but in beansandcornbreads world this implies Yagura somehow was an imperfect Jin with the rest of them that wasn't mentioned.

No such thing as a genjutsu that defies the logic of a Jin being immune to all genjutsu...? Tsukiyomi...? Nah, never heard of it. Yeah... not even going to bother any further. Believe what you want, lmao.

 

[Beans2]

Lol... Danzo specifically said Yagura had true control over his Biju, and put him in the same sentence as Bee; but in beansandcornbreads world this implies Yagura somehow was an imperfect Jin with the rest of them that wasn't mentioned.

No such thing as a genjutsu that defies the logic of a Jin being immune to all genjutsu...? Tsukiyomi...? Nah, never heard of it. Yeah... not even going to bother any further. Believe what you want, lmao.

Did I say all jins are immune to genjutsu? No, I said perfect jinchuuriki were because the bijuu inside them would break them out with the partner method. If Yagura was actually a perfect jin, Isobu would have snapped him out of genjutsu the instant Obito put him under one. Face it man, Obito didn't control a perfect jin with genjutsu. Either Danzo was wrong or he meant something else by his statement that Yagura had true control over his bijuu.