Kakashi is the BEST NARUTO CHARACTER

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Kakashi is one of the biggest Naruto wankers in the NV.

Not even close
He see's Naruto as his student and a comarade of Konoha unlike the rest who see Naruto as a magical god boy
 

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When he has ppl like zabuza who was a run of the mill 1 off villian listed as better than Kakashi there isn't much to counter. Same goes for madara who spent his entire time as an edo out of character.

Like I said. His fanboyism clouded his judgement.
When it comes to Madara, he had a lot of things already set in motion. He used Obito and betrayed him and then ignited IT.

He also killed the two main characters easily.

I guess you don't find progression and villainous acts as part of characterization?
 

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What does Kakashi do? Sit behind his mask and complain how he can't do anything for his team?

What did madara do? Sit on his ass complaining about how he couldn't protect his brothers?
 

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What did madara do? Sit on his ass complaining about how he couldn't protect his brothers?
lol wut?

Are you saying that Madara didn't have a big impact on the entirety of the manga?

Lol, okay BenjerminGaye
 

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Kakashi is only strong with sharingan without sharingan he is like a fish without water
 

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When it comes to Madara, he had a lot of things already set in motion. He used Obito and betrayed him and then ignited IT.

He also killed the two main characters easily.

I guess you don't find progression and villainous acts as part of characterization?

He had nothing set in motion. Obito did EVERYTHING, and would have completed everything had he not second guessed himself. By the time madara actually did somthing to effect the plot (coming back to life) the overused "man behind the man" trope got old. Hence why he got replaced near instantly by kaguya.

Killing main=/= good character, and the main's didn't die.

He didn't progress the plot tho, and only has 1 villainous act under his belt.
 

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lol wut?

Are you saying that Madara didn't have a big impact on the entirety of the manga?

Lol, okay BenjerminGaye

Madara is all power only...all he did he was casually fight opponents and people liked it
 

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Not a fan of the character but he is well written. Nagato is imo way more. Don't go stating half assed opinions as facts if you don't want the backlash.
 

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This> Anything Kakashi ever said

Man seeks peace, yet at the same time yearning for war… Those are the two realms belonging solely to man. Thinking of peace whilst spilling blood is something only humans can do. They're two sides of the same coin. To protect something… another must be sacrificed.
 

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lol wut?

Are you saying that Madara didn't have a big impact on the entirety of the manga?

Lol, okay BenjerminGaye

No. He didn't.

U wanna see the list?

No. He didn't actively do anything until his revival. Had he been the only Chessmaster then you'd have a point but the fact that in the end he got played by bz it makes his contributions to the Plot pretty small.

Your can say "he made Obito xyz" without saying "bz made madara xyz"

You can't atribute obito's actions to him without doing the same 4 him to bz.
 

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So are we not reading the same manga?
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He wasn't the final ploy he got played.

You're here saying he's a great villian for tricking obito but bz who is as flat as cardboard did the same to him.

He didn't form the akatsuki.
He didn't have anything to do with the massacre (what shaped sasuke life)
or the 9 tails accident (what shaped naruto's life)
he had nothing to do with the akatsuki's actions,(which brought the world into the 4th world war)
he had no direct or indirect influence on either main. So yeah. He didn't set anything in motion.
 

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No. He didn't.

U wanna see the list?

No. He didn't actively do anything until his revival. Had he been the only Chessmaster then you'd have a point but the fact that in the end he got played by bz it makes his contributions to the Plot pretty small.

Your can say "he made Obito xyz" without saying "bz made madara xyz"

You can't atribute obito's actions to him without doing the same 4 him to bz.

-Became a new SO6P as the Juubi Jin with both Rinnegan

-Achieved IT, his goal

-Owned the Tailed Beasts

-Slaughtered the alliance in Apocalyptic Rape mode

-Killed two main characters before they had him running

-Proved himself right about the Uchiha's fate if they stayed in the village.

-Owned both Edo Hashirama and Tobirama blind

Annnnndddd....Im done.
 

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No. He didn't.

U wanna see the list?

No. He didn't actively do anything until his revival. Had he been the only Chessmaster then you'd have a point but the fact that in the end he got played by bz it makes his contributions to the Plot pretty small.

Your can say "he made Obito xyz" without saying "bz made madara xyz"

You can't atribute obito's actions to him without doing the same 4 him to bz.
It doesn't matter if he was used. Madara still impacted the world.
 

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Kakashit is definitely the best
 
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