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It was coming from someone benefiting from Edo Tensei. An enhanced one at that.

I don't see why this matters, though. Edo Madara said the Hashirama that he faced makes the Gokage's combined efforts look like nothing, even going so far as to call their efforts pathetic in comparison to Hashirama.

what eve man.

Im talking about current hashirama and madara

They both could solo the jubbi atm.

Madara has the power the s06p used to defeat jubbi
Hashirama defently has the power to defeat jubbi.

most ppl say naruto is the new s06p

so my defination for s06p has been reduced dramaticly

Hashirama and Madara taking on the Juubi? Quit playing, the Juubi's going to burst right out of that barrier created by all four Hokage once it gets into its final form.
Like I said, the Sage of the Six Paths would take them both on, Edo Madara and Edo Hashirama, and win.
 
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But then that means Sasuke was Kage level a long time ago, cause he stomped the shit out of Deidara, long before he even had MS.

pretty much.

He was right in between high jounin to low kage

Dont forget Sasuke had trained with orochimaru+Kabuto

Hebi sasuke could hold his own against most akatsuki

except

obito
nagato
itachi
 

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I don't see why this matters, though. Edo Madara said the Hashirama that he faced makes the Gokage's combined efforts look like nothing, even going so far as to call their efforts pathetic in comparison to Hashirama.

Hashirama is clearly above kage level.

lol, well its not about having "fair match ups". Its life or death in the ninja world.

Lol True.
 

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Konohamaru could beat Sakura.
 

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She would have only lasted about 10 seconds without chiyo...



Both sasori and diedara defeated kages.

Tsunade wouldn't have sent her if she didn't believe in Sakura's (her student) abilities, and besides Sakura had 2 antidotes and probably would use the seal if Chiyo wasn't there to help, and Sasori was really a threat to her he was easily breakable with her strength and her a medic, one who is quite good with poisons. And it was Sakura's power that won the fight Chiyo was just a controller for some parts.
 

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Tsunade wouldn't have sent her if she didn't believe in Sakura's (her student) abilities, and besides Sakura had 2 antidotes and probably would use the seal if Chiyo wasn't there to help, and Sasori was really a threat to her he was easily breakable with her strength and her a medic, one who is quite good with poisons. And it was Sakura's power that won the fight Chiyo was just a controller for some parts.

None of that matters, sakura alone wouldnt have lasted after the first attack. That's fact.

My argument is that there is no set "Kage-level" because Hashirama is a Kage as well.

Kage level is more like a bottom line. If you are kage level you are above that bottom line, then there are low, mid and high kage level ninja, and after high kage level then there are those who are above kage level, known to as "demi-god tier" or labeled simply "above kage level". In hashirama's case, he can be a kage even if he is above that level.
 
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Tsunade wouldn't have sent her if she didn't believe in Sakura's (her student) abilities, and besides Sakura had 2 antidotes and probably would use the seal if Chiyo wasn't there to help, and Sasori was really a threat to her he was easily breakable with her strength and her a medic, one who is quite good with poisons. And it was Sakura's power that won the fight Chiyo was just a controller for some parts.

you forgot about the fact that she had no knowledge of sasori

w/o chiyo sakura would die from poison or killed brutally immedaitly.:devil:

Plz re watch the fight

fixed^^^^^^^^^^

mabye more like 5mins

Konohamaru could beat Sakura.

lol plus rep for the lawlz
 
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I don't see why this matters, though. Edo Madara said the Hashirama that he faced makes the Gokage's combined efforts look like nothing, even going so far as to call their efforts pathetic in comparison to Hashirama.

Madara's character has a clear superiority complex, his words were also intended to demoralise his opponents

At that point, Madara is not the same Madara as he was when he was fighting Hashirama, Edo Tensei, Mokuton and the Rinnegan made the Gokage's attempts pointless. Which is exactly why they experienced so much difficulty in the fight.
 
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Kage-level is subjective at best.


However, you can assume one has reached Kage-level when a character has the ability to defeat a Kage or being noted as Kage-level by a Kage.


An example would be someone like Madara Uchiha, a ninja never outright stated to be a Kage-level shinobi, defeating the Gokage and Hashirama Senju noting he wanted Madara to become Hokage.

Another example would be Sasuke Uchiha when he created Hebi. He was able to fight on the level of Itachi Uchiha, noted to be an S-Rank criminal and Kage-level intellect, and defeating Deidara, another S-Rank criminal who defeated the Kazekage earlier.
 

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pretty much.

He was right in between high jounin to low kage

Dont forget Sasuke had trained with orochimaru+Kabuto

Hebi sasuke could hold his own against most akatsuki

except

obito
nagato
itachi

Hebi sasuke did a decent job against Itachi, but that's mainly cause Itachi was sick so I'll let that go.
 

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As of now theres a huge difference between Hokage level and Kage level.
Even Tsunade was more powerful and doing more damage to Madara than any of the other Kages. Even by herself..she seemed to outshine A, mei, Gaara and Oonoki..showing her outstanding power and amazing medical ninjutsu.
 

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Madara's character has a clear superiority complex, his words were also intended to demoralise his opponents

So... you are saying it is a possibility that Hashirama wouldn't be able to take on the Gokage and win?
 

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kage level"

is thrown out alot lately.

Here is my list of kage level shonobi out of all of naruto.

[ list consist of ninja who are not, have not been kage.]


Sasuke
Itachi
Nagato
Kisame
Kakashi
Bee
Deidara
Sasori
Kakazu
Obito
Kabuto with stolen perks ofc
Orochimaru
Dauri
Kankaruo with sasori mabye
jinchurkin
Naruto
G&S bros
Jairaiya


To be a hokage you must be able to compete with nina such as the sannin.

Sakura wouldnt last a min with anyone above + many more

nagato was leader of the rain village he dont count in the list
 

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Your whole post. Best joke of the day. OP kankuro and darui are definitely not kage level.

kankuro has sasori lol

low kage/ high jounin


Dauri soloed G& S bros. Plus his black lighting

G&S bros whooped on tobirama and almosted killed him.


Too op for kage level lel

Nah genjutsu would

gg him quick.

My argument is that there is no set "Kage-level" because Hashirama is a Kage as well.

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Hebi sasuke did a decent job against Itachi, but that's mainly cause Itachi was sick so I'll let that go.

Itachi wasn't trying to kill him.

It was literally a kage level bell test.
 
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