Izuna Theory is DEAD guys

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Tobi is the killer of Madara and Tobi called himself as Madara.When Tobi saw Madara,Tobi is worry that Madara will piss him because of killing him
thats speculation and has nothing to do with Izuna theory

Yeah, no. Madara has Rinnegan and Rinne Tensei brings people back to life.
yeah, sorry, that does nothing to disprove what i said

Tobi KNOWS who Tobi is and KNOWS Izuna is dead
 

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thats speculation and has nothing to do with Izuna theory



that does nothing to disprove what i said

Tobi KNOWS who Tobi is and KNOWS Izuna is dead
What??? Where's your proof of that one, guy? Before you fix this sad typo do you really think Madara doesn't know his own brother? And so what if Madara knows the identity of Tobi? For the last time go read the other threads before you post this one, but this is the last time I am going to say this.

Read carefully, Madara said Izuna DIED not that he IS DEAD. DO. YOU. UNDERTAND? There is a difference here. He was revived with the Rinne Tensei.

Just like Kakashi DIED but is not DEAD because of the Rinne Tensei.
 

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What??? Where's your proof of that one, guy?

Read carefully, Madara said Izuna DIED not that he IS DEAD. DO. YOU. UNDERTAND? There is a difference here. He was revived with the Rinne Tensei.
here is your proof:

"this is his doing... he definitely has something in mind... but what?"

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"after my brother died, he only left me his eyes and their power"

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Kishi is not going to yank our chain by using the "died is different from dead" excuse

why would he have Madara make that comment then?
 
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time to get over it boys and girls

Madara said his brother died, but more importantly Madara actually knows who Tobi is

put those facts together and its obvious Tobi cannot be Izuna

its that simple :D
No,but Madara did had the Rinn before he died. He could have brought back his bother and put his soul in a body thats made up like Zetsu white half. Also who else can Madara trust with his plan. After all his brother gave him his eyes.

Plus when Tobi was talking to Sasuke about Madara taking his brother eyes,tobi made a fist as if he was upset about that.

It was never shown that Izuna is actually dead...
It was shown. But doesn't mean Madara didn't revive him and kept it a secret.
 
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No,but Madara did had the Rinn before he died. He could have brought back his bother and put his soul in a body thats made up like Zetsu white half. Also who else can Madara trust with his plan. After all his brother gave him his eyes.

Plus when Tobi was talking to Sasuke about Madara taking his brother eyes,tobi made a fist as if he was upset about that.



It was shown. But doesn't mean Madara didn't revive him and kept it a secret.
valid points, but they were only valid up until the point where Madara actually acknowledges Izuna's death

Kishi is not going to sell us down the river like this


EDIT: oh yeh Kishi drew Izuna in a casket didnt he
 

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Well the whole thing is a little silly, I mean, he took his eyes, not killed him... That's where the two things collapse.

I mean, if you take someone's else eyes, it doesn't mean that that person is going to die, just gets blind...
 

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here is your proof:

"this is his doing... he definitely has something in mind... but what?"

178.21.19.200/manga/mangas/Naruto/560%20-%20Uchiha%20Madara/02.png

"after my brother died, he only left me his eyes and their power"

178.21.19.200/manga/mangas/Naruto/577%20-%20Sword%20of%20Hatred/07.jpg


Kishi is not going to yank our chain by using the "died is different from dead" excuse

why would he have Madara make that comment then?
Haha There is proof of nothing here...

Why??? So that people like you would be convinced he was dead and the mystery would continue.
 

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Well the whole thing is a little silly, I mean, he took his eyes, not killed him... That's where the two things collapse.

I mean, if you take someone's else eyes, it doesn't mean that that person is going to die, just gets blind...
but Madara acknowledged Izuna's death

Haha There is proof of nothing here...

Why??? So that people like you would be convinced he was dead and the mystery would continue.
the proof is perfectly adequate --- Madara knows who Tobi is, Madara acknowledged Izuna's death

you just see what you want to believe.... and no, Kishi isnt going to do something convoluted like that
 

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valid points, but they were only valid up until the point where Madara actually acknowledges Izuna's death

Kishi is not going to sell us down the river like this


EDIT: oh yeh Kishi drew Izuna in a casket didnt he

Can't rule out that Madara kept it a secret.
Sure he said his brother gave him the eyes,and died later. Doesn't mean he later revived him before dying.
Who else can he trust with his plan. Plus again the whole Tobi making a fist while telling the story of Madara and his brother,seems like he was upset about Madara taking his brother eyes... We don't really know the whole story on Madara and Izuna. Probably Madara promise Izuna something,but Izuna end up dying. Probably Tobi is Izuna,and him making the fist shows that he was regretting that he gave the power to Madara..and now Tobi is taking the plan for him self. Like madara said,it wasn't part of the plan that Kabuto revived him and not Nagato/Tobi.


P.s Kishi is always selling us down the river.
 

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but Madara acknowledged Izuna's death



the proof is perfectly adequate --- Madara knows who Tobi is, Madara acknowledged Izuna's death

you just see what you want to believe.... and no, Kishi isnt going to do something convoluted like that
Omfg. You are doing the same my friend. You automatically take Madara's statement in only one frame of mind and refuse to think any differently - it is very shallow. We just differ on this. So what if he acknowledged his death. It does not matter that at one time he died. That's like saying Kakashi can't be fighting Tobi right now because he died we saw that he died and Kishi confirmed his death.:sy:
 

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I agree Madara has given enough proof to refer to his brother as being a sacrifice to have his EMS and nothing more. If he were indeed Tobi he would care a lot more about him and vice versa but the two just seem to be former allies. The two would have been wanting to fight together and we'd see some kind of bond between them like Sasuke and Itachi are doing now. The way Madara speaks of Izuna, we know they were on good terms. Tobi is not too thrilled having the real Madara around and its safe to say he has as little affection for him as all the other revived Akatsuki members.
 
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Can't rule out that Madara kept it a secret.
Sure he said his brother gave him the eyes,and died later. Doesn't mean he later revived him before dying.
Who else can he trust with his plan. Plus again the whole Tobi making a fist while telling the story of Madara and his brother,seems like he was upset about Madara taking his brother eyes... We don't really know the whole story on Madara and Izuna. Probably Madara promise Izuna something,but Izuna end up dying. Probably Tobi is Izuna,and him making the fist shows that he was regretting that he gave the power to Madara..and now Tobi is taking the plan for him self. Like madara said,it wasn't part of the plan that Kabuto revived him and not Nagato/Tobi.


P.s Kishi is always selling us down the river.
^This.
 
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