[Spoilers] Izanami is Absolutely Useless in Combat
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NarutoKage2
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Well he comes the closest to being arrogant. That's just my impartial assessment, i don't really have anything against the character.
Other than that, there is pretty much no one who needs to accept who they really are. Nagato was arrogant as hell, but all that completely changed after he met Naruto. As an edo he acknowledged he was used, it takes acceptance of one's self to say something like that. So even though he's a powerhouse, he won't get caught.
Orochimaru probably would'nt get trapped either, contrary to what some believe. He may have been manipulative, but he was his own person and was'nt in an identity crisis like Kabuto.
TheSages456
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izanami cant be used in a actual fight as stated by itachi himself. the situation with kabuto was extremely lucky. if kabuto wasnt doing all that talking then itachi wouldve never found his fault. first off how is itachi going to find the fault in the person if they deny itachis talk no jutsu and just fight. itachis has to make the same thing happen twice and that isnt happening in a 1 on 1 fight or against haxxed OP characters.
Totsuka No Tsurugi
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oh yes he can, young deidara got pawned with just a simple genjutsu
come on now, if he really accept himself then he will acknowledge his own power, he simply use the same method like kabuto in order to achieve his own goal
* **** others, says orochimaru with loud voice, i won't stop using other people power and body until i become the sage*
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It is obvious that Izanami is useless in combat, so can someone please explain to me why such a low tier jutsu (The Izanami) would cost such a heavy price (losing sight in one of the sharingan)?
P.S.: Lol at fanboys hyping up this low tier jutsu, and LOL at people saying that Sasuke would obtain this jutsu and defeat Naruto.
P.S.: Lol at fanboys hyping up this low tier jutsu, and LOL at people saying that Sasuke would obtain this jutsu and defeat Naruto.
Well we know that itachi took it to the next level when he used it on Kabuto... because the jutsu was meant to counter Izanagi. I think it isnt the last time we will see this in combat. But i agree that it aint really worh the eye he could have used othe means to stop kabuto... but like he said... he saw himself in kabuto, reminded him of himself back in the days.
YellowFang
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I liked it how Kishi explained Izanami in a perfect manner because I was annoyed of seeing many of NB members joining the ranks in Itachi fanboyism army (although I m also a part of it in some scenarios) just because Itachi revealed Izanami as one of the top tier jutsu of Uchiha and putting it in un-explainable arguments in the VS threads.....
Darksharinnegan
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hmm i really starting to wonder about the intellect of everyone in this thread.
you guys cant understand how mentally trapping someone in a loop while rendering them completely helpless could be used in a ninja fight?
you guys cant understand how mentally trapping someone in a loop while rendering them completely helpless could be used in a ninja fight?
blazekev90
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It's his own technique that HE created that requires the use of another body, he has no identity issues man haha
Itachi2304
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I dont understand what you people are saying..... if he uses izanami on ANYONE the time it will take them to find their true selves is more than a 5/5 in speed itachi to jump there and chop their heads off..... even if the opponent isnt as demented as kabuto the time it will take them to BREAK the loop is more than enough time for itachi to kill them. remember the spell doesnt just dispel if the person already knows his imperfection "everyone has an imperfection.... but regardless...." even if they know they are healthy mentally they still need to actually MAKE THE CHOICE in the loop and break the loop. People are thinking that if they are healthy mentally that the izanami wont work completely. thats false. they still need to break the loop to get out. and besides even being healthy mentally doesnt stop you. Naruto is the good guy and izanami would work perfectly on him. It would work against ANYONE who has a lot of ego. It would certainly work on Nagato, Madara, Tobi, Sasuke, and countless others. Not to mention I BELIEVE you can use this move on any imperfection they have and not just arrogance. Once you think about it altering destiny isnt just by using izanagi. When you choose to fight back you are changing your destiny. Itachi could very well make them choose to NOT fight back in izanami and accept the fate that they will die lol. Thats my personal belief on the matter.
minatoisagod
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does seem useless against ppl like naruto who already acknowledged himself so i kinda half agree
EYES OF ITACHI
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GUCC1GU1LTY
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Izanami is not useless...
Its MAIN pupose for the technique was for countering and stoping izanagi users...
it dosnt HAVE to be just for people with an identity crisis lol PAY attention to the manga...
Its MAIN pupose for the technique was for countering and stoping izanagi users...
it dosnt HAVE to be just for people with an identity crisis lol PAY attention to the manga...
Itachi sees Orochimaro as his own person, which is why he is telling Kabuto to stop trying to be him and accept his own strenght.
Lol, I think you need to pay attention.Why do you think it worked on on these Izanagi users? They became arrogant and unrecognizable, thus Izanami had to be born.It stopped them from escaping death.
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KakashiNinjaGaiden
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If you continue to fight the loop in this instance the loop continues if you stop fighting and realize the stipulations to the kinjutsu it ends. If you need ill explain with an example
LeEvilTongue
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I think you either misinterpreted Itachi, or didn't see what he was really trying to say, but than again Kishi could have written it wrong, or translation could be off to. Kishi recently has always made some sort of mistake in explaining things.
Itachi said in the same page, that Izanami is considered Kinjutsu. Kinjutsu = forbidden techniques which shouldn't be taught or used. As of what we know there can be two ways you can look at it:
1. A jutsu that does harm to the user.
2. A jutsu that breaks the law.
Multiple shadow clone is consider a kinjutsu (harm to oneself), simply due to the fact that it can bring any user to the brink of death becasue of the amount of chakra it uses (other than Naruto). This tech. shouldn't be taught or used, but yet we see Naruto using it.
A jutsu that breaks the law would be Tobirama IWR, as it requires a human sacrifice to resurrect the dead. We still see this kinjutsu being used by Oro and Kabuto.
Death Seal Reaper could go in either one, as it not only harms the user (killing him), but the person its used on, but we still seen this used by Minato and third.
Izanagi/Izanami effect the users, reason why it is a kinjutsu, but shouldn't be used in fight, but we seen Danzo/Tobi use Izanagi and Itachi now use Izanami in battles.
I believe this is what Itachi spoke of, other than Naruto if anyone else used Multiple shadow clone, they will be really low on chakra, and on verge of death pretty much. Izanagi/Izanami are the same, the users one eye sight is gone and if countered well than the user is pretty much screwed.
If Izanami is used to counter Izanagi, and Tobi/Danzo used Izanagi in battle, but Izanami can't be used in battle? How would that make any sense? Or rather how would that be a counter if not able to use in battle VS Izanagi user?
This is why I don't think Izanami is useless in battle, but rather better to be used in a battle VS someone with Izanagi to counter it and/or punish them as stated.
Itachi said in the same page, that Izanami is considered Kinjutsu. Kinjutsu = forbidden techniques which shouldn't be taught or used. As of what we know there can be two ways you can look at it:
1. A jutsu that does harm to the user.
2. A jutsu that breaks the law.
Multiple shadow clone is consider a kinjutsu (harm to oneself), simply due to the fact that it can bring any user to the brink of death becasue of the amount of chakra it uses (other than Naruto). This tech. shouldn't be taught or used, but yet we see Naruto using it.
A jutsu that breaks the law would be Tobirama IWR, as it requires a human sacrifice to resurrect the dead. We still see this kinjutsu being used by Oro and Kabuto.
Death Seal Reaper could go in either one, as it not only harms the user (killing him), but the person its used on, but we still seen this used by Minato and third.
Izanagi/Izanami effect the users, reason why it is a kinjutsu, but shouldn't be used in fight, but we seen Danzo/Tobi use Izanagi and Itachi now use Izanami in battles.
I believe this is what Itachi spoke of, other than Naruto if anyone else used Multiple shadow clone, they will be really low on chakra, and on verge of death pretty much. Izanagi/Izanami are the same, the users one eye sight is gone and if countered well than the user is pretty much screwed.
If Izanami is used to counter Izanagi, and Tobi/Danzo used Izanagi in battle, but Izanami can't be used in battle? How would that make any sense? Or rather how would that be a counter if not able to use in battle VS Izanagi user?
This is why I don't think Izanami is useless in battle, but rather better to be used in a battle VS someone with Izanagi to counter it and/or punish them as stated.
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blazekev90
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i think people misinterpreted this thread as a whole, that's if Siyo and I have the same opinion on why we think its useless in most situations