I've found the holy grail of fan boys

[naruto1246]

Im saying this because every time I've brought something
concrete to the debate is was argued with chi and chakra
are different, and one is stronger than the other. when most
fail to realize that dbz characters fight with blind rage, which is
cool and all, but can never stack up to a ninja. why do you
think that in martial arts movies the little asian dude beats
the crap out of the huge buff guy. BECAUSE THE LITTLE ASAIN
GUY IS CALM AND COLLECTED! I say sasuke can hit goku with
genjutsu you say he needs chakra, when chi is the same chakra just
worded differently. There both inner life power! Not only that
amateretsu, thunderclap and susano'o can beat goku. And others
and I have made that point , but its always disputed by goku is
super strong.. yes he is stop getting a hard on for it, remember,
there fighting out of BLIND RAGE! Sasuke was ahead of his class, always
calm and collected and thinking 2 steps ahead of himself, rather than
goku thinking, whats the strongest way possible I can hit this guy.

i dont remember goku going into a blind rage


and if sasuke uses amateretsu on goku can dodge it im 253% sure goku is faster then A someone who dodged amateretsu. sasuke uses thunder clap two things one goku can get behind sasuke in that time and if he doesnt he can use instant transmission to get out of there not like it would kill goku anyway if sasuke uses susano'o its called a blast that is about at least five times more powerful then the ninetails tailed beast bomb im sure sasuke wouldnt survive that even with susano'o. the genjutsu thing well i dont know about this if genjutsu works on him im sure he has enough control over his chi that he can break out of it IMO

 

[mcchikeneater]

re-read this!!
"But im
done with this thread because you keep failing to see my god damn
message, and its not that he can win, shit sasuke is more than
likely to lose, BUT HOWEVER, WITH ALL OF NINJUTSU AND GENJUTSU
IM SURE THAT HE'D PUT UP A HELL OF A FIGHT!"

You have changed the "godn damned message" like 6 times now. first there was 100% no way that goku could win, then we gave reasons why, then it was "everyones just counting sasuke out" then it became "nobody will give any explanations" then it became "im not trying to say one could beat the other" then it became "sasuke would probably lose but he would put up a good fight" you have contradicted yourself like 6 times on this thread just give it up man. and thats like the 9th time you said your done with this thread.

 

[mcchikeneater]

Nah he's not invalid, He is just frustrated for not any of you people
to opening up your mind to anything else.

because his argument is about equal to someone trying to convince me that I have 6 arms and live on a flat planet. And he keeps changing his argument to contradict itself with ever other post.

 

[zabuzamistboy]

Dude realize the fact that I accepted some things that
people brought, and realize your never able to hear me out.
and its not that i changed my message its all in the train
of thought that you can't just count some shit out.

Example 1: goku ss dashes at sasuke and punches him, and sasuke used substitution jutsu. and comes from behind and amateretsu's goku.

Example 2: Sasuke goes for a grand fireball and goku teleports out of the way in the
sky and hits sasuke with a spirit bomb.

It can go either way! but once again you fail to know an argument can
only be won by looking and understanding one's point of view first!

 

[Abysmal.]

I thought this shit was put to bed awhile ago.

And Zabuzamistboy, you only seem to be responding to those who are not or simply refusing to understand your point of view on this, so you getting frustrated is all on you.

 

[-Yard-]

re-read this!!
"But im
done with this thread because you keep failing to see my god damn
message, and its not that he can win, shit sasuke is more than
likely to lose, BUT HOWEVER, WITH ALL OF NINJUTSU AND GENJUTSU
IM SURE THAT HE'D PUT UP A HELL OF A FIGHT!"

Dude realize the fact that I accepted some things that
people brought, and realize your never able to hear me out.
and its not that i changed my message its all in the train
of thought that you can't just count some shit out.

Example 1: goku ss dashes at sasuke and punches him, and sasuke used substitution jutsu. and comes from behind and amateretsu's goku.

Example 2: Sasuke goes for a grand fireball and goku teleports out of the way in the
sky and hits sasuke with a spirit bomb.

It can go either way! but once again you fail to know an argument can
only be won by looking and understanding one's point of view first!

Sasuke uses sub, goku senses sasuke appear behind him and teleports behind sasuke faster than sasuke can react because sasuke doesn't have sensing abilities and even mangekyo can't keep up with the speed of light. Even if it could, sasukes not fast enough to react to it. After orochimaru's training sasuke is basically twice as fast as lee without weights meaning that he can vanish and appear within short-mid range which is 5-10 meters. Running a distance past 10 meters he won't look like he's going as fast as he does in short to mid range. However, goku on the other hand can go from earth to king kai's planet in an instant. Traveling light years away in an instant. To travel that speed a person would disintegrate due to friction/resistance. This standing as toughness of goku's body meaning that Amaterasu wouldn't do jack to him. They can survive blasts that destroy planets, seriously, ameterasu will not hurt him. Goku would not even need to teleport away from the fire ball, he'd just stand there, let it hit him and not have a scratch on him. Pikkons thunder flash does more destructive damage than any fire attack seen in the manga.

 

[TOADvsSNAKE]

here is the top 3 anime in terms of popularity:
One Piece
Naruto
Bleach

now here they are in terms of strength
One Piece
Bleach
Naruto




now if you add OP,naruto and bleach togther you get roughly hlf the strength of DBZ charcters. here is why whilst naruto characters are very strong from ourperspective they are at thesame time weak compared to bleach. one piece and DBZ. here's why OP>Naruto

it's three main reasons

paramecia
logia
and zoan
also haki and rokushiki but lets not get into that

Bleach>Naruto

high speed movements like shunko, shunpo and sonido
kido/cero
cega nagacion
and shikai/bankai


now here's why DBZ>all other animes
Impossibly fast movement
Impossibly strong characters
impossibly resilient bodies
teleportation
energy beams
the ability to destroy/vaporise planets
regeneration of the full body from just one surviving cell
the ability to defy death
ability to destroy universes
and so much more

that's why Dragonball Z characters will always be the strongest ever

 

[zabuzamistboy]

here is the top 3 anime in terms of popularity:
One Piece
Naruto
Bleach

now here they are in terms of strength
One Piece
Bleach
Naruto




now if you add OP,naruto and bleach togther you get roughly hlf the strength of DBZ charcters. here is why whilst naruto characters are very strong from ourperspective they are at thesame time weak compared to bleach. one piece and DBZ. here's why OP>Naruto

it's three main reasons

paramecia
logia
and zoan
also haki and rokushiki but lets not get into that

Bleach>Naruto

high speed movements like shunko, shunpo and sonido
kido/cero
cega nagacion
and shikai/bankai


now here's why DBZ>all other animes
Impossibly fast movement
Impossibly strong characters
impossibly resilient bodies
teleportation
energy beams
the ability to destroy/vaporise planets
regeneration of the full body from just one surviving cell
the ability to defy death
ability to destroy universes
and so much more

that's why Dragonball Z characters will always be the strongest ever

that was a well round about explanation, thank you. I like the fact
that you brought reasons to why dbz characters are actually stronger, rather
than just flat out saying that a character can just destroy a planet. I personally hate one pointed explanations.

 

[zabuzamistboy]

Sasuke uses sub, goku senses sasuke appear behind him and teleports behind sasuke faster than sasuke can react because sasuke doesn't have sensing abilities and even mangekyo can't keep up with the speed of light. Even if it could, sasukes not fast enough to react to it. After orochimaru's training sasuke is basically twice as fast as lee without weights meaning that he can vanish and appear within short-mid range which is 5-10 meters. Running a distance past 10 meters he won't look like he's going as fast as he does in short to mid range. However, goku on the other hand can go from earth to king kai's planet in an instant. Traveling light years away in an instant. To travel that speed a person would disintegrate due to friction/resistance. This standing as toughness of goku's body meaning that Amaterasu wouldn't do jack to him. They can survive blasts that destroy planets, seriously, ameterasu will not hurt him. Goku would not even need to teleport away from the fire ball, he'd just stand there, let it hit him and not have a scratch on him. Pikkons thunder flash does more destructive damage than any fire attack seen in the manga.

FYI, and off topic, the artist in your ava is bad, and you should feel bad!

 

[-Yard-]

FYI, and off topic, the artist in your ava is bad, and you should feel bad!

Futurama jokes?

 

[zabuzamistboy]

Sasuke uses sub, goku senses sasuke appear behind him and teleports behind sasuke faster than sasuke can react because sasuke doesn't have sensing abilities and even mangekyo can't keep up with the speed of light. Even if it could, sasukes not fast enough to react to it. After orochimaru's training sasuke is basically twice as fast as lee without weights meaning that he can vanish and appear within short-mid range which is 5-10 meters. Running a distance past 10 meters he won't look like he's going as fast as he does in short to mid range. However, goku on the other hand can go from earth to king kai's planet in an instant. Traveling light years away in an instant. To travel that speed a person would disintegrate due to friction/resistance. This standing as toughness of goku's body meaning that Amaterasu wouldn't do jack to him. They can survive blasts that destroy planets, seriously, ameterasu will not hurt him. Goku would not even need to teleport away from the fire ball, he'd just stand there, let it hit him and not have a scratch on him. Pikkons thunder flash does more destructive damage than any fire attack seen in the manga.

I was told that chakra and chi are different, so he wouldn't be able
to sense him, fail!

 

[-Yard-]

I was told that chakra and chi are different, so he wouldn't be able
to sense him, fail!

Maybe you should actually watch dbz. Then you would know that goku can sense any being on the planet and even from galaxies light years away such as broly as an example. Oh wait, my bad you don't actually care about any of this, you're just trollin